Lit Occhi of Bestoon and the story of Rey's parents decoded

With much speculation going on about him and the exact story that unfolded around Rey's parents, it is time to bring up some facts from the TROS VD and connect the dots!

First the Facts from various VD sections compiled into one place:

Occhi of Bestoon was many things, Jedi Hunter, Sith relics and artifacts procurer and Assassin. He often worked with Imperial Adviser Yupe Tashu himself and was a believer in the Sith dream bearing proudly the symbols of the Sith Eternal on his ancient speeder. The Bestoon Legacy was his ship, not that of Rey's parents. He is tied to the Acolythes of the Beyond that Yupe Tashu worked with to prepare the galaxy for the return of the Sith.

His ship was sighted at Jakku by a 5 year old Rey as it left with her parents on board stranding her with Unkar Plutt. On board Occhi killed Rey's parents as they did not give up her location. He was doing so under orders yet we do not know from who the order came. The very same year Lando Calrissian, working with Luke Skywalker, had heard of a drunk Occhi who bragged about having found a Sith Wayfinder in one of the Emperors storehouses. Luke and Lando were searching for Occhi because Luke was trying to find a way to Exogol and Lando, whose daughter had been kidnapped aged 2 years old only, was helping him (before the FO was known, before the Centrist secession and before Luke would take Ben as his apprentice travelling the unknown Regions!). Chasing Occhi across half the galaxy, they trail ran cold on Paasana where they found and searched his ship. Luke left, Lando never did. They did not find Occhi or his speeder who the sands had swallowed up hole as local wildlife had killed Occhi belowground.

It is very interesting that Rey stranded on Jakku, her parents killed by Occhi and Luke and Lando hunting him as well as him obtaining the Sith Dagger all happened in the same year as per TROS VD! I smell and upcoming story uniting all those threads!

Occhi had with him on Paasana a Sith Dagger inscripted with ur-kittat Sith runes in the Old Tongue and it revealed not only the location of one Sith Wayfinder, the Emperors own, but also was used to murder Rey's parents.

Luke Skywalker knew and raided the Emperors storehosues and observatories himself already (Pillio in Battlefront games, Jakku in Legends of Luke Skywalker) as well as obtained 2 Force Compasses in each of those. Force Compasses are like Sith Wayfinders as per VD in function. So Luke already knew about them and had first hand experience with the Jedi equivalent before hunting for Occhi and Exogol.


Now questions and potential answers:

Occhi bragged about having found a Sith Wayfinder, yet he only had a Sith Dagger leading to one, not a Wayfinder himself (yet)! The Dagger had to have been crafted post ROTJ so it could have the exact DS2 ruin configuration marked in it that would contain said Wayfinder. Therefore, someone post Endor had it made to lead people to the Wayfinder, instead of reclaiming it him/herself despite knowing its exact location! Somhow this dagger ended up with Occhi.

Did Yupe Tashu give it to Occhis or did he find it on one of his treasure hunts for artifacts?
Was the Daggers creation one of Yupe Tashus tasks as per the contingency post Endor? He had his own orders separate from Jax own after all as per Aftermath novels.
Or was the dagger in the hands of Rey's parents once and Occhi took it from them before killing them with it?

Given they left Jakku on Occhis ship, we do not know which ship brought them and Rey to Jakku. We also do not know why they had been to Jakku at all. Was it to hide her in a remote spot? Or is there more to it given they specifically knew this is an important battle site, had an Imperial observatory and the place had a conenction as jumping point into the Unknown Regions!

Did Occhi at one point after Yupe Tashus death get in contact with Exogol and get order directly from there, from Palpatine or maybe Snoke? He only had the dagger, never took the Wayfinder itself apparently, so him going to Exogol I would exclude for now though it is possible with some back and forth taking and re-placing the Wayfinder.

Now, why was Occhi on Paasana where Luke and Lando caught up with him and where he died?
Did Rey's parents die on Jakku as Kylo told Rey?
For these two, lets consider this: Maybe Kylo simply saw them in a grave on a desert planet and assuemd it to be Jakku but it was actually Paasana? Maybe Occhi returned there in order to continue work he had thought ended with killing them, for he needing something of their dead bodies? DNA samples or else for Palpatine?
Why would Rey scream at Occhis leaving ship on Jakku? She either knew her parents where on board (watched him take them on board) or assumed they were on board while they are already dead in the sand. Why would she assume that given its not her parents ship? She hadn't been on it herself as far as we know. It might thus be more likely Occhi took the parents on Jakku and burried them elsewhere. Of course Rey's parents could have stolen Occhis ship with Rey along and he took it back on Jakku killing them there and then. Time will tell.

Note Occhi carried the Sith Dagger with him on his body on Paasana years after killing Rey's parents and still did not have the Sith Wayfinder taken from Kef Bir. As A Sith Cultist I doubt he had trouble decoding the inscription or hiring a droid hacker himself. So he either left it in place due to orders like those to kill Rey's parents, or he found it, used it to contact Exogol where he got his orders and had to bring it back to Kef Bir soon after. The VD page of D-O, his droid offers more insight that Occhi too build and collected droids, weapons and else and had killed D-Os previous master. It even mentions Occhi using the dagger to kill a droidsmith with it, therefore confirming Occhi went to one to get the dagger translated. So we know now he knew of the inscription leading to Kef Bir for sure.

Now we get to something special: Luke and Leia knew Rey was a Palpatine as had been said multiple times by the TROS authors in interviews. Leia trained her despite knowing, sent her to Luke despite knowing. Like many backstory beats yet to be revealed, as in how and when did Luke, Leia, Han know Snoke and other such bits, this nugget of information will be very important. We learned in the meantime that they met Snoke on Lukes journeys with Lor San Tekka in the Unknown Regions. Which as of yet untold lead to some adventures together ending in Luke and Snoke going separate ways violently.
How and when did Luke, Leia etc. learn of Palpatine having had offspring? And more important, how and when did they learn his offspring had a daughter named Rey! What of her parents story did they know exactly?

We do not know yet how old Rey's father was or if the Emperors offspring was public knowledge despite some old Legends sources talking about an Imperial royal family. Maybe Leia heard it via royalty and political channels.

Leaked story ideas and scripts for TROS reveal more intel that may or may not tie back to Occhi and Rey's parents backstory: Rumors had it that Rey's parents were not only known but friends or worked with the Skywalker-Solo Clan once in unused story and script pieces. That was even before she was supposed to be a Palpatine. If this is still true, then Palpatines kid and family probably were in trouble after Endor: Hunted by the Empire for it needed a Heir to the throne, likewise hunted by the New Republic due to their dark legacy of the Palpatine family name and people hating them for it they needed refuge and found it when they met the Skywalker-Solos who would not condemn them for their families dark past (as they had themselves via Vader). The SkySolos thus took them in for a time I suspect, which is where they had Rey and a young Ben maybe even might have met her once. Cue the Hunter catching up with them and the SkySolos unablet to protect them and they would choose to leave to not endanger their kind hosts. (The reveal to the public that the SkySolos protect the Palpatine family, paired with years later their own Vader ties made public would be yet another dark turn for their family and galactic popularity). So, they left, got hunted, caught up with and killed but were able to hide Rey on Jakku.
Through them, the SkySolos learned a great deal more about Palpatine I suspect, which is why they had been targeted for assassination. Did anything they revealed, paired with Lukes research, set him to look for Exogol? Rumors of the Emperors survival or return? Sith Cultists spreading them all the time, it might have ringed some alarm bells with Luke wanting to check up on any traces thx to info of Palpatines son. Lando's VD page reveals that indeed such rumors and a feeling in the Force of an old enemy rising lead Luke to start his search.

Back to Yupe Tashu, the dagger and Jakku: Did Yupe Tashu own the dagger and it remained with him on Jakku during his death? Did Occhi or Rey's parents find it in the Jakku observatory/storehouse of the Emperor? Were they all there because they all hunted for the Sith Wayfinders and had a clue lead them to the dagger?

Leaving Rey on Jakku was a last minute improvisation due to Occhi catching up with her parents. No deliberate longterm plan. And the name Palpatine made Unkar fear any retribution enough to not hurt or harm the girl, which is why he took care for her, even if she got raised under harsh conditions.

Back to Paasana: Was Occhis landspeeder swallowed by the sand when he was leaving his ship or when he tried to return to it? His destination as per VD was unknown. Was he looking for Rey on Paasana, the wrong desert world? Did Rey's parents intend to hide on friendly Paasana but never got there, or had to leave there going to Jakku?

A lot of unknowns still but compiling all VD information together finally, I think the picture got a lot clearer and gives us an idea of where the story is headed.


PS: Wayfinder Bonus Lore:
1) The VD confirms that the Force Compass Luke found on Pillio lead him to Ach-To. As per Sith Wayfinders we know the Emperor had one to get to Exegol, as Vader had one on Mustafar. With Palpatine knowing how they work, did he ever use the Jedi Wayfinder / Force Compass to get to Ach-To long before Luke? And if not, why not? Why did Snoke/Palpatine not look for him on Ach-To? They did not know where it was, meaning they never went there. But why? Did it not work for them? Was it archived before ever being used properly?

2) Palpatine felt the call from the Unknown Regions which most likely refers to Exogol, not Snoke now. Vader never felt it. Yet both had wayfinders to Exogol. Why? Did Vader ever use it? How and when did they obtain them?

3) Force Psychometry and sensing an objects past as Karr, Rey, Cal and others can do but apparently Luke couldn't or he would have known much more much earlier about his enemies when touching the Emperors things.

 

That was very well thought out and put together.

 

Thanks for posting this thread. Hope this all comes together successfully in a future comic or other canon material

 

From the Movie forum Occhi topic

 

You're welcome.

As for the 'clans': maybe the same group, maybe another. But the same side, specially if there was a war going on. Like, Leia's clan in ANH included Solo and Skywalker and Kenobi and Organa and the Larses, retrospectively (Leia was based on Hidden Fortress' princess Yuki, whose clan is destroyed when the film begins, and so is Rey; the very word 'clan' in the leaks seems to be a reference)

So, the link between the different parts of a clan would be individuals. The link between Ochi, Rey's parents, etc and the forceback seems to be placed around a)the clan leader and b)whoever was behind adult Rey after Kylo stabs the clan leader.

Whos is he walking towards? You can see there's someone behind adult Rey - someone wearing some kind of cape, it appears. maybe there was something literal going on when Maz says 'the belonging you seek is not behind you'. Adult Rey turns and then little Rey appears behind her.

As for the clan leader, he is listed as a KOR in the TFA credits, and Ren and their knights are already looking for a new KOR member in the Rise of Kylo Ren comic, doing some casting. Someone FS and capable of 'good death' (capable of killing a family member) Those are the requirements.
This happened in the past, and Kylo was Ben at the time. So maybe this guy betrayed the clan (in the 'Vader betrayed and murdered your father' vein), but also took care of Ochi.

Rey goes from 'family' to the more specific 'parents' after she mets Ben/Kylo, and the 2015 leaks make sometimes the same distinction. The 'parents' belonged to the clan, but the 'family' dropped her off on Jakku.

Palpatine wanted Rey alive, but didn't want Ochi to get the wayfinder. Neither Rey nor the wayfinder were for Ochi. A crime had to be inscribed in the dagger, and that was his part I think. Others took care of the rest.

 

I was thinking Ochi was given the blade by Sith cultists specifically for the mission to find Rey and bringing her to Exegol. He would need to find the Enperors Wayfinder to get there. Reys parents lied and claim Rey isn’t on Jakku so he kills them. Why he doesn’t then search Jakku is beyond me. It’s so lightly populated, he could have easily found her and Unkar Plutt would sell her off for a good price..

Btw: I’m pretty sure Reys given name was lost. She calls herself after the name of the Teirfon Yellow aces pilot who’s helmet she scavenged and wore on Jakku. Desmond Rae I think.

 

Well, the mother already calls her Rey in TROS.

In TFA, Obi-Wan's 'Rey' was had its origin in 'afREYd', spoken by Alec Guinnes in ANH. Maybe 'Rey' has its origin in that word, misheard in a dream or vision. (In the TLJ cave, 'afraid' would have sounded like 'Rey', given the echo)

Hm, in fact the mother says 'Rey, be bREYv' in the film.

 

Does she? I only remember her calling Rey sweetheart and yes I know she tells her to be brave like Shimi tells Anakin

 

it seems a wee bit difficult to directly connect the "come back!" shot from the forceback scene to something that actually totally happened because it's Ochi's ship and why would she be yelling that at Ochi. Also Rey's parents need time to take the cash they got for Rey to guy a drink. (Best joke theory I read on that was there was a flight attendant on Orchi's ship and they bought a stiff drink on their way to their execution.)

Sold for drinking money could also mean they bought some water with Rey's cash.

 

I wonder how many portions they got for her...

I still doubt they actually sold her. Unless it was a fake sell to cover up the real deal they had with Unkar.

Maybe the helmet with the pilots name was given to her on purpose so she would think she named herself after that pilot and would not discover her true origin. Unkars job was to protect her and keep her hidden. No wonder he worried for his life and rushed to Takodana after her to get her back to Jakku.

But for funs sake: The VD mentions Occhi drunk bragging about Sith Wayfinders which Landos underworld contacts overheard. So whatever drinking money Rey's parents got ended up spent by Occhi and ultimately brought Luke on his tail and lead to his death! Hah! Boomerang!

 

Great points that make me think, what if "sold for drinking money and dead in a paupers grave" does not refer to her parents at all but to Ochis fate! He was hired for drinking money for he drunk it off afterwards and died in a paupers grave below the sand, unmarked and forgotten.

Maybe Kylo saw the ship in Rey's vision and assumed it belonged to her parents and could somehow sense Ochis fate but put no face to it, believing he saw her parents fate!

Likewise, Rey when touching the lightsaber did not see her parents past but as you said part of Kylos past intercut with hers. Regarding the clan and clanleader, everyone assumed the clan does matter but as Maz said "not behind you", what is important is her future is tied to the Knights of Ren and especially Kylo Ren and the vision showed her them because of that, not because of the clan.

 

I get the feeling the 'clan of Toribohta' may have been mean't to be connected to Luke's sabre, originally. But Rey's parents could still have hidden with them, for a while, and then Kylo vaguely got wind that they may have sheltered Force sensitives in the past.

 

A one canon retcon I thought right now, not sure if it makes sense with the canon continuity:

what if Ken was with Luke and Lando on the hunt for Occhi.
Maybe Ken could have mislead Occhi from Jakku, saving Rey from being kidnapped? He could also have died doing this or something, explaining his absence from the sequel trilogy and why Palpatine didn't try to use him as a host

 

A little thought on Occhi: He is a Jedi Hunter in an era where there are not many Jedi around. Did he hunt Luke's students before the massacre? Did he hunt any surviving students after the massacre? Or is he far older and actually hunted Jedi in the Purge post ROTS as an Inquisitor? Why does he have the "Jedi Hunter" title, if he actually as per TROS hunted no Jedi but Rey's parents, who were of Sith origin, not Jedi!!! Could it be that Rey's mother was a Jedi her dad fell in love with? One of Luke's early students? Or was there a Brakiss type of situation and Exegol sent a student to Lukes academy to train undercover and spy? Was that Rey's mom? And returning she fell in love with her dad and freed him of any Sith influence as well convincing him to make a run for freedom?

Alternatively, if his species is older and he was active hunting Jedi of the PT, when, how and why?

 

Wookieepedia says of Ochi: "A Jedi killer since the time of the Clone Wars".

Even if he has a human style lifespan, he might not be that old. Kid Boba Fett was chasing Jedi around during the Clone Wars to avenge Jango. If Ochi was similar, he'd be born 32 BBY. Assuming that he died in 21 ABY shortly after he killed Rey's parents, that would only make him 53 at the time of his death. If he were a young adult when he was killing Jedi during the Clone Wars (say born 42 BBY), he'd be 63 at his death.

 

So much time passed and still not a lot of new intel on Ochi or Rey's parents and the one we got of Ochi so far with Marvel dissappoints me. Hmm...

On the other hand I am glad how much of my speculation and this topic still holds up.

 

I haven't read the most recent Darth Vader issue but I did like on the cliffhanger reveal page "Ochi of Bastoon" had his own specific villian title font which is totally how I picture people saying his name now

 

For reasons of actuality and SHADOWS OF THE SITH novel upcoming telling THIS story, lets see how close I got next year!

 

Ochi and Rey's parents plotline might be more then it seems. It seems for 15 years Ochi was all alone until he got a call from his former employer. And got his one chance to get back on mission. I wonder what he was doing between ROTJ and this book. working for crime syndicates maybe. And wonder why it took Palaptine 5 years before finding Ochi to find Rey.

 

Because Rey's parents are that good and for 5 years disposed of everything he sent after them until he only had Occhi left, that's why! Rey's dad does not need the Force and is badass.. and her mom, well she is Jodie Comer, if that is not enough, what if it is Jodie Comer as a Forcesensitive?

 

small update:

So Marvel made Occhi an assassin of the Assassins Guild... when will he work with Yupe Tashu and the Acolytes from the Beyond?

Also I am curious what Shadows of the Sith will soooon enough do with my prediction!

 

Spoiler

Well, now the novel is out, I wonder if it fulfilled expectations? It certainly ties in the Acolytes of Beyond quite well into things, I can tell you that much.
No Clan of Toribohta, to my knowledge, involved though.
In the book, Lando also overhears Occhi in person, bragging about the Wayfinder and his mission - rather than an associate of his doing so. I think the kidnapping of Lando's daughter is also moved back to 6 years prior, as well.
And Occhi also likely gets some additional stocks of weapons from the force of CSA soldiers who show up, towards the end, aiding a certain First Order officer, but I cannot confirm that.

 

please mark/hide spoilers!!!! many did not read it yet or are not done yet!!!

 

I think @Sinrebirth can do it.