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Senate "Biden Beats Trump" - The 2020 General Election Presidential Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by Point Given , Aug 27, 2020.

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  1. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Don't forget, Jesus was also killed under Obama's watch, along with all the babies that have been murdered by the married gayz authorized by the Supreme Court justices he appointed back in 1972 that decided Roe and Obergefell. He also repealed the 2nd Amendment, but Trump restored it.

    Also, while many ex-felons were shut out by the federal judge upholding the poll tax, keep in mind that there were plenty of ex-felons that did meet the criteria, even with the Republicans stacking everything against them. And I guarantee that they are almost all going to be voting Biden instead of Trump.

    Not only that, but as I pointed out awhile back, there is at least one non-profit taking donations to pay off felons' costs and fees so they can get their right to vote back. I'm sure they'll all be lining up to vote Republican.
     
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  2. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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  3. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Does North Carolina have a Democratic Secretary of State? My understanding is they have a lot of power to determine how votes are counted and can likely push back on some of these shenanigans.
     
  4. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Yes that office is held here by a Democrat. But unlike many states, the SoS doesn't hold any oversight over elections. That mostly lies with the state Board of Elections.
     
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  5. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    Trump announces 11.3 Billion in aid to Puerto Rico in a ploy to win votes
     
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  6. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 6

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    They’re wearing masks and concerned about the mail...so I’m guessing democrats shown here.

     
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  7. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't think people have fully internalized just how disconcerting it will be if the race isn't called on election night.
     
  8. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    And it will not be called on election night.
     
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  9. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 6

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    Oh I bet. And I'm sure Trump will take advantage of that to insist that if the race isn't called by 12am on election night it automatically goes to the current President, or some other nonsense.

    I fully expect him to claim victory at 8pm no matter what.
     
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  10. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    Trump just gave his daily 'we'll never know who won so i have to stay forever " rant from the White House podium
     
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  11. Dark Ferus

    Dark Ferus Chosen One star 8

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    I don’t even want to think about how quickly war could erupt among the military if Trump refused to leave.
     
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  12. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    Yes, I know. He told me back in 1723 that Obama doesn't like him. A shame that these baddies got J finally. He always wanted to be in a SW movie one day. A baby force user or something similar. 212 years ago he mentioned a guy named Plagueis and to trick Satan. I said " Are you kidding?". He said : "No, I am Yoda, you'll see one day". I did not get the joke.
     
  13. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    I've seen from several sources that Trump leading comfortably on election night and Biden winning after mail in votes are counted is a very plausible scenario.
     
  14. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    it wouldn't . he'd leave. neither he or anyone around him has the guts to do anything other than run their mouths. he just wants to call in to Fox for the rest of his life and say it was stolen from him
     
  15. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    you're forgetting the possibility of jail time if he actually left office hanging over his head.
     
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  16. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So I’ve been giving some thought to the Twitterverse narrative that Bill Barr is going to try and charge Joe Biden before the election. I think he believes doing so will accomplish the following:

    1. GOP-led states will try and pass legislation either removing him from the ballot directly or stating that a candidate for the presidency who’s been charged with a crime or is facing an indictment can’t be on the ballot in their state. Given that elections are a state matter under the Constitution, they potentially have a lot of leeway here. Of course, blue states could retaliate by trying to insist that candidates who haven’t released their tax returns are similarly ineligible, but I don’t believe that will hold up.
    2. GOP-led states will simultaneously sue in federal court in front of Trump-appointed judges to have Biden tossed from the ballot. I’m sure at least some of them will allow that to proceed.
    3. The prospect of competing slates of electors goes WAY up in that scenario, especially in Pennsylvania, which looks more and more to be the tipping point state. The US Supreme Court just this term ruled that states have the authority to bind their electors, and if states pass a law saying that electors may not vote for any candidate for President who’s been charged with a crime (and will be removed and replaced if they do so), that’s a major problem.

    I could absolutely see #3 happening in Pennsylvania. Competing slates of electors heading to Washington is a real and dangerous possibility this fall. Given the split in Congress, we could literally have no President come January 21st. Pelosi would likely get it, but wow, what a cluster**** if that were to happen.
     
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  17. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    I believe that the only rational fear is that Trump wins thanks to the combo voter suppression + voter stupidity.

    I wouldn't overthink scenarios where he refuses to leave, makes a coup or weird **** like that.
     
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  18. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    oh i know, just saying if he's voted out and refuses to leave he'll be escorted out and there won't be any fighting the military by jared donnie and old joffrey
     
  19. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    As long as the office exists a former President of the United States will never be imprisoned.* No one wants to set that precedent. The idea that Trump faces a real threat is ludicrous.

    *Unless it's a leftist who tries to give everyone healthcare or end the wars or something.
     
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  20. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 6

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    I’m really curious at this point if the military just wouldn’t side with him, choosing ‘not to get involved in elections’ or something.

    I mean I’m sure there will be grumbles and shocked senators writing tersely worded statements on twitter about this illegal act, but I’m really curious if anyone would actually do anything for that matter.
     
  21. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    We don't want the military involved under any circumstances.
     
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  22. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    You forgot the reason that Biden/Harris is a horrible alternative as Hillary was
     
  23. Runjedirun

    Runjedirun Force Ghost star 6

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    This is my county. It's very blue. I'm thinking maybe enough people will vote early that poles will not be crazy busy on Nov 3 when I plan to vote.
     
  24. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    This year has been mental enough that I can genuinely imagine a horror scenario where Trump loses but refuses to accept it because of "reasons"

    I can also see a scenario where Trump win but there is enough ambiguity that means that Biden pushes and creates issues.


    Eitherway a sensible election in the US for 2020 isn't an optimistic option
     
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  25. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    I'm saying that either Trump flat out wins, or, if we really have to expect something out of ordinary or not legitimate, it will be voter suppression.

    I wouldn't expect any other form of power grab to happen at this point.
     
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