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What's its current status in terms of canonicity? From what I've heard, it is confirmed that only what's on screen (Ep. I-VI, TCW) is canon, along with whatever comes next, which includes Rebels, Ep. VII-IX, and the spin-off movies. I've also heard that the Dark Horse comics are going to get extinct in a while, along with every EU merchandise. And he upcoming novels that are set post-RotJ are on-hold for the moment.

So, what's exactly the status of the EU? Am I correct in what I said? What have I missed? And what does the involvement of the Story Group in TOR means?

BARDAN EDIT: Merging with the existing thread on this.

I heard that the relaunched series covers the latest Star Wars canon. Does it include anything from the EU? If yes, then which works?

 

Sorry for double posting, but I can't edit my above post. In the last part of my post, I'm referring to the Star Wars Fact File.

 

The Star Wars Fact File includes material from Shadows of the Empire, and The Force Unleashed. There's a passing reference to "The Bounty Hunter Wars" in the timeline that was included with the first issue, as well.

 

So, going by FF, the current canon includes (not including stuff that haven't been released yet) the 6 movies, The Clone Wars TV series, Shadows of the Empire, The Force Unleashed, and The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy, right? Would that include the sequels of Shadows of the Empire & The Force Unleashed respectively?

 

The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy jumps back and forth between that period and late in RoTJ.

The article on Anakin Skywalker (issue 11) references a lot of events from the Clone Wars Multimedia Project (comics, novels, TV series) etc - that were written before the TCW series.

We don't know for sure that the Fact File will continue being valid into the Disney era - it may be "the last of the old EU" rather than "the first of the new".

As to Shadows of the Empire: Evolution, and TFU2 - I don't know yet if either have been referenced- I've only read a couple of the issues.

I do know however that the timeline ends in 4 ABY (RoTJ).

 

I see, thanks for the info.

 

Wondering if its possible to send a bill to Lucas books for all the stuff I have read that doesn't exist

 

What about all of the wasted paper, time, and potential with the post-NJO?

 

Can't help you there, but simple fact is GL left his post and when he came back he did it in the wrong way imo

 

Darth Marvel: At last we will reveal ourselves to Dark Horse comic. At last we will have revenge.

 

Has anyone talked about boycotting the new EU if the changes come out to be not to our liking? seeing as how their are over a million followers of the EU section of this forum I have to think we hold a pretty big vote. If we can get enough people together to not by the new books or sign a petition to allow certain older ones to be added to the EU Disney would take notice of that many people.

*of course this is all theoretical assuming they do something rash and stomp out even the Thrawn trilogy (which would be sacrilegious IMO) or produce new books that are complete garbage.

 

The Thrawn Trilogy was made so that it can fit with Episodes VII-IX if they were to be made back in the day, and since Ep. VII will be set 30 years after Ep. VI, it may be saved.

 

Where do we stand with regards to the Mortis stuff, is that part of the TCW stuff that's elevated on a par with the movies? The Mortis stuff sounds rubbish IMHO, the GFFA should not have a God.

I like Sith Sorcery, and the different applications of the Force, but Mortis just killed it for me.

 

I don't see how the Bane and Plagueis novels can be retconned. They explain events too much and take nothing away from the new trilogy.

 

TCW series on the same level of canon as the films. GL was heavily involved with the series and the stories it told and that makes Mortis part of the official fabric of SW. People can interpret the Mortis arc in many different ways and it leaves it open for discussion than to state outright what is what and if they are gods. Also keep in mind that there are many cultures in the GFFA and a lot do worship some deity.

Regarding TFU level of canon:

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I hope that clears a few things up.

 

Is not the Bane stories the once that retcon the explanation we are given in tPM (novelization) to how the jedi know about the Role of Two?

 

I'm actually hoping to see two universes: one for episodes 7-9 and one that reboots from the end of NJO.

There was a time when Naga Sadow was in rebellion against Marka Ragnos and Ajunta Pall was alive in 25,000 BBY, so Korriban/Moraband is nothing.

 

I do wonder if Disney will decanonize pre-ROTJ material that is unpopular, obscure, or complicates things.

 

I wonder if there's a few people sat in a room reading through the different things when, suddenly, coffee sprays up the wall in one corner and the source of the spray calls everyone over.

"This is a real doozy, we've gotta get rid of this one. So... right, It's a gun and... when you shoot someone with it they do everything you say! Han's just used it on Leia!" *tosses book in the bin*

 

But of those cultures in the GFFA that worship a Deity, how many actually exist?

Thanks for your clarification btw

 

You're welcome

To give an hypothesis… as far as I know it is unknown... especially when advance technology/abilities could be considered magic to those that do not understand. The abilities of the ones in Mortis could be from advance cognitive abilities from using more than 90% of their brain power, mixed with who knows what genetic information that lies in their DNA.

 

What I have heard is that some parts of the EU are not considered parts of Canon. TFU games are two examples of things that aren't considered Canon.

BUT from what I have read and understand they are going to use material from the EU. Names could be changed or the names could be the same but the back round could be changed. Events might pan out slightly differently.

In the end the EU could be rendered completely non canon. But things might stay but be different.

 

Agreed. I'm organizing it like this for myself: if Disney keeps most (if not all) of the current EU, it will be one universe in my mind. If they throw out any bits of the EU I happen to like, I will view it as two equally canon universes