Rogue One [Official Info] Alan Tudyk (K-2SO) in Rogue One

Yes. And IMO, it was a huge mistake. ROTS is the absolute worst-designed Star Wars film in the saga. Not least because of the dominance of Ryan Church and his hideous style, and the absence of Chiang.

TPM is the best-designed prequel, IMO, and that's primarily due to Chiang's influence. And despite the contentio of some in fandom who don't understand design at all, Chiang's work is much closer to the McQuarrie style than what we saw in ROTS. The problem is that a lot of people think the design differences between the OT and PT amount only to "sleek and shiny" vs. "angular and gritty." Which is a fundamental misunderstanding of the design landscape of the films.

 

Ah, OK, we have some crossed wires here. Forgive me but I have to leave this conversation thread here.

 

Ah, OK. I suppose I missed some history on why Chiang wasn't asked back for ROTS?

 

I'm confused as well. I couldn't find anything. Couldn't have been that bad if he came back from TFA and Rogue One.

 

Looks like a bigger version of the droid that helped Bane infiltrate Jedi Temple in TCW

 

My biggst concern is if Alan Tudyk's funny voice will fit the design of K-250. Maybe they will tweak it a bit?

 

I'm not saying this is exactly what happen, but if I recall from my Internet surfing days of over a decade ago (lol), shortly after TPM, Chiang decided to pursue his own projects. He founded a studio, worked on several animated shorts, and was in development of some film projects, ultimately which never materialized. I believe this was the primary reason that he wasn't involved with ROTS, and involved less in AOTC than he was for TPM.

 

That is what I found as well. CrazyOldJedi made it seem more nefarious than that, but maybe that's what he meant by wires crossed and he was talking about something else.

 

Yeah. Crazy seemed to be hinting at a more dramatic rationale for his departure, and I don't remember anything like that at the time.

 

Comedy relief or cold-blooded killer? Maybe he'll be what Mr. Bones should've.

 

I made this photo my desktop wallpaper!!!!!!!!!

 

I'm surprised no one has pointed out how similar the design is to the Iron Giant?

 

Lol... ROTS the worst designed SW Movie? You have some pure taste JabbatheHumanBeing.
Chiang is the worst Concept Artist out there he just doesn't get SW, best Prove are TPM and AOTC and all of there cheezy designs.

 

I think you don't understand that good Star Wars design is about more than just "shiny vs. gritty." It's more about simple and iconic shapes and forms. In this context, Chiang is the only Star Wars concept artists that I think fully understands the DNA coding of the McQuarrie/ Johnston partnership.

The following two images, for example, tell me that Chiang is vastly superior conceptual artist to Church and his ilk. Particularly as it related to capturing that elusive Star Wars aesthetic. The first image shows a villain (original concept my McCaig) and his vehicle (Chiang) that have iconic silhouettes, as defined by basic shapes and lines. Edited down to their essence. The latter shows a villain and his vehicle that are just...a mess of overcooked, overwrought design concepts. No editing whatsoever. Like bad video game designs from third rate video game companies. Or like the first draft of a student art project. Chiang wipes the floor with Church and the ROTS team.

Chiang:



Church:



And I don't think you'd get much disagreement from great designers in the field. Chiang is on another level.

That said, I think Chiang is at his best when designing vehicles and structures, not characters. But IMO, the Star Wars aesthetic is driven primarily by its vehicles, structures and locations.

 

Looks like it might be K2So.

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/05/m...-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-character-names/

Though the "detective" work doesn't seem that different from the same things we did here.

 

Kay Tooeso does sound more Star wars.

 

Not to mention we were trying to figure out how they were going to shorten K-250. Seems like it is easier to do it this way.

 

Do you think K-2SO is certain enough to update the title again?

 

OK, it's fine for now, thanks. We think it's a letter O at the end not a zero BTW.

 

I agree that Chiang is superior to the ROTS art team, but in the end I think the final products (TPM, AOTC, ROTS) land on an equal level of design. Concept art in all it's glory, but for me it's the actual designs in the films that matters in the end when making comparisons.

For instance, I loved the Utapau architecture.

 

Agree to disagree. That shot is very illustrative of Church's cluttered, busy style, which feels a million light years away from what I consider to be Star Warsian. It looks like an OTT environment in a bad video game. I can imagine Church saying: "Oh, it would be cool to create a sense of dread by having landing platform structures that are, like, big skeletons!" I appreciate that some enjoy Church's "throw everything but the kitchen sink at the screen" style, but for me, it is one of the main reasons why I have difficulty watching ROTS.

Though at least we agree that Chiang is ultimately the better designer!

 

The official design is very interesting, the head vaguely reminds me of Rob Bottin's original Robocop helmet and also evokes the classic Star Wars stormtrooper. I like. I also like the possible idea that this droid has been reprogrammed.

 

I brought that up months ago when we first saw early designs!

@Ed_Fett_77

you do realize that Doug Chiang worked on TFA, what did you thing of his art and conceptual designs in TFA? I bought TFA conceptual art book from Books A Million for $40.00 it is a beautiful book! Ciang is also signed on to work on Episode 8 and 9 !!!

 

I hoped "imperial enforcer droid" would look more threatening- especially dot eyes make me think this character is just a comic relief. Hopefully he proves to be ass-kicking destroyer and not poor 3PO clone. But love the idea of imperial battledroid working for rebels- I wonder if he is reprogrammed or did he actually decide to leave the Empire which doesn't treat well droids.

I think that ROTS has much better and more unique designs than TPM what comes to finalized product- don't know that much of concept arts or artists though. But worlds like Utapau, Kashyyyk and Mustafar and well designed IMO.