Rogue One [Official Info] Vader in Rogue One

I've done some thinking on this and the most plausible thing I can come up with is that maybe Lucas made an offhand mention of the possibility to him kinda like how he told Mark Hamill that there will be 12 movies. Then Prowse just rolled with it.

 

Yes we know the outcome, but that's like watching a film set in WW2 about a certain real-life event. The WW2 film would still work. How popular was the Dambusters? Also, story is also about character and it's about the hero's journey - the details of the plot are secondary. I would also not be surprised if their is a link between Rogue One and the ST. Three good reasons why this is will not be "really bad."

 

For me this is one of those things where it's - be careful what you wish for.

Hopefully we get some scenes hinting of someone making Imperial commanders accountable, for the loss of these plans, and by the end, due to their incompetence, we finally see when he personally takes full command of the mission to retrieve them.

But I don't need, or want them to take it upon themselves to suddenly decide - we really need to "explore" Vader's angst here.
No, you don't! Hell no!

This has to be Vader at his coldest. least human and most mechanical, completely switched off emotionally, there shouldn't be any trace of the whiney torchered Anakin of the prequels.
Or of him even reflecting on that past for a second.
That guy, is implicitly dead! at this point.

And this is also before he has any sense, or want of hope, that his children may have survived.
Just a pure mechanised walking death mask, focused on getting the plans back.
That's it

I will freakin yell at the screen like a madman and wreck the theater, if they for a second have him all wistful and moping, at what he's become.

LOL!

 

I would really like to see Vader in this film...but for the love of God - Keep HC away from this! Grrrrr

 

No need for the Grrrr, man.

HC will not play Darth Vader

In any form ever just because why would he?

 

Maybe as the suit but thats it...

 

He's too small.

 

Why on Earth would agree to do it?

 

Because he would be back in star wars.

 

I think that they'll most likely do what they did for the OT. Get some lesser-known actor, or maybe just a stuntman/bodybuilder, to play Vader physically and then get JEJ to do the voice again (having heard him on Rebels, he can still pull it off. His voice sounds a little older than he did back in the day, but not that much).

From what I heard, the reason why HC was in the Vader armor at the end of ROTS was that he specifically requested it.

 

I may get a lot of flack for this, but there's something I've always wanted to see in a Star Wars villain, if only out of a sense of evil pragmatism.

I've always thought to myself, even from a very young age... why doesn't he just force-crush that dude?

Since this is Vader at his penultimate evilness, I feel the time is right. I realize this is probably far too graphic an image for most Star Wars audiences, so just some character (the more prominent, the better) suspended in mid-air, some creative sound effects and an off-screen scream accompanied by Vader closing his fist would sate my crush-lust.

Probably far too violent, I know, but tell me it wouldn't stick out as one of the most intense scenes in SW history.

Boom. Vader redeemed.

 

Vader choking a guy to death with his bare hands is still a pretty disturbing sight imo. Even today, it holds up.

Maybe someone like a wrestler who can pull off Vader's sometimes over the top gestures.

Remember that guy?
https://www.google.at/search?q=shea...ChMIxYuGnMSUyAIVRrQUCh3ljAkD&biw=1280&bih=588

 

Vader is definitely in Rogue One considering "A New Hope" literally opens with him chasing after the plans.

 

I'd be interested in seeing the writer and director of Rogue One by having Vader as this ominous background character that everyone talks about but never sees. Imagine a scene where they're all sitting around and speculating what he looks like and where he could be hiding. Of course, we know everything about Darth Vader so the intrigue in the scenes stems less from mystery and more from giving greater context and depth to the characters to further understand their role within the rebellion. What better way to achieve that than by having a totally new lineup of characters describe a legendary villain that we ourselves know inside and out?

 

And then they meet Vader ...

Otherwise nah, disappointing. It's like teasing a cake but not giving it to the audience.

 

But we've already had our cake...and we ate it up.

 

The cake is seeing Vader in all his glory in a new Star Wars film. If that doesn't get bums in seats, I don't know what will.

Being teased that we'll see him and then he is a no-show is no fun imo.

 

Vader is what the general public knows, and they are going to be reminded of him in TFA. Vader is box office and toy sales.

 

Since Vader is so popular, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets his own spin off set preANH.

 

Definitely prefer the approach of having him more an unseen, yet a ominous presence throughout.
That is, have the fear he as instituted in others be the main focus, but not the man himself.

His story has been beyond told. I don't ever need more insight into this character, LOL!. We are not going to learn anything new about him. It's done, we know exactly who / what he is at this point. (and definitely not another Vader focused spinoff)

In Rogue One we shouldn't see him so much, but his effect on others, those accountable to him, under his command, the anxiety and fear built on knowing he's out there, as TryWhistlingThi pointed out, the effect his presence has made, outside the Empire too.
On those struggling to survive, where he's still unseen, yet legendary.
That should be his presence.
Have him only sparingly ever on screen, to emphasise it.
Until we finally see when he personally takes full command of the mission, towards the end
.... which we know, leads right into his presence in ANH.



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Oh sure. The story isn't about Vader.

 

Darth Vader is like the Rockefeller or Rothschild of the Star Wars Universe. Everyone knows who he is but is unsure of what is stands for or who precisely he is as a person, but everyone talks about him and when they do there is either a lot of cynicism or dislike. Is he really all that bad? Is he just misunderstood? Or are there greater evils at play? One thing for sure is that no matter how powerful Vader is, there is someone pulling his strings and he needs to answer.

I'd love to explore the psychological effects that has on those within the Star Wars universe. I mean, we've seen Darth Vader choke someone to death for speaking out against him in a board meeting. I've seen that and it was a glorious moment. But show me what happens next. If I were in that board meeting i'd be meeting up with my closest friend for a drink on Mos Eisley to talk about my psychopathic boss.

Plus, we've got Mads Mikkelsen and Forest Whitaker in the film. Do we really need to shoehorn the Man in Black just to be reminded we're watching Star Wars? Although I like Hamill's Joker, don't you think he was kind of over-serviced by having him feature in all four Batman Arkham games?

 

Yes, because otherwise it will just be another war movie and that genre doesn't seem to be doing that well right now.

You obviously don't read the new Vader series by Kieron Gillen.

 

Hayden: "Damn hater fanboys on those Star Wars forums, can't wait to return as Vader just to make them mad and give them something to stew about."

 

Like I said before, I believe that his actually physical presence will be limited. Maybe we see him talking to, whoever the main baddie is in this film on the holonet once or twice, and then he shows up in person near the end of the film (to set up the beginning of ANH). But his presence will be felt throughout. It could be cool if the Imperials in this film talk about him, and are absolutely terrified of what he might do to them if they fail. Then at some point they get the word that "Lord Vader is on his way to your location," and it makes them all the more desperate to get the plans back.