Full Series Official Star Wars Resistance Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Yup. Star Wars has gotta be all grimdarkz. Especially the stuff aimed at elementary kids.

 

I didn't say anything about the story needing to be darker and depressing. A show can be fun without resorting to making fun of the main character, and making him not be able to stay on his feet for more than 5 minutes at a time and shrieking every 2 minutes.

 

He's a fresh-faced newbie faking-it-til-he-makes it, in a series aimed at a bunch of 10 year olds.

I think we can turn a blind eye to some physical slapstick here.

 

I really don't understand the whole "it's meant for children" argument. First of all, it presumes children are incapable of enjoying a show without slapstick elements a mature storytelling. One of my favorite shows at that age was the X-Men animated series, a show with color fight scenes and a story I could be interested in, even if I couldn't always appreciate the deeper meaning behind some of the ideas. Heck, even Star Wars is a great example. The original trilogy was enjoyed by millions of children worldwide, even though there were very few slapstick elements (C-3PO had a couple, but not many).

People said "it's just a kid's show" about TCW and Rebels too regarding some of the more childish elements, but I think most people agree that TCW was better without the burping hutt baby, for example. It was still a show that children could enjoy even as it matured in its storytelling.

I think we can have a show that is aimed at 10-year-olds and still hope for a somewhat more mature version of the show at the same time.

 

But why is it somehow an issue for you that there are slapstick elements? Is that somehow wrong?

It's not mutually exclusive, a "mature" story/theme with lighthearted stuff too. Lucasfilm's always had goofy stuff, across all their media. Hell, even the darker end of the spectrum like Temple Of Doom and Revenge Of The Sith.

 

When I think back to the cartoons I watched as a child in the 80's there was the slapstick comedy characters too, but they were never the main character and they were almost always the least liked character of the show. Scott and T-bob in M.A.S.K., Snarf in Thundercats, Orko in He-Man for example. Maybe the fact that Star Wars' Droids cartoon was not successful was because the main character (who could speak) was Threepio in permanent slapstick mode. I remember hating Threepio in Droids.

 

Yeah, and that’s why Kaz isn’t defined by the slapstick elements. There’s a lot more to his character, and the slapstick stuff is just an accent. He’s shown to be pretty clever and a very good pilot. He’s no Jar Jar.

 

Am I to assume some of y'all didn't like the Looney Tunes or Tom & Jerry when you were kids?

 

Or anything Goofy is in? 'Cause he's even klutzier than Kaz, and that's saying something. At least Kaz is a good driver/pilot.

 

What are you saying, anthropomorphic dogs can't fly planes?! This bigotry shall not stand.

 

With the story fully segueing into the Resistance-First Order war, would it be a good idea to just start straight in from season 2?

 

I don't think so. It shouldn't take very long to burn through season 1.

 

Not at all. The story will still mostly be nonsensical unless you've seen Season 1. Plus, if you're mostly interested in the ST tie-in, there are explicit connection to TFA made in the first season.

 

He isn't even that. Luck and plot armour have kept him from killing himself in the cockpit.

 

Did you see all of Season 1? Unless I’m misremembering I thought he did some pretty fancy flying in that episode with Poe in the asteroid field. One of the pirate episodes too, I think. Plus the race or races he competed in. I’m foggy on details, but I think he’s been shown many times to be competent.

 

From my memory, Kaz actually crashed into things in both the race episode with Tora, and the asteroid one with Poe. Yes he accomplishes great things in the cockpit, but just like when he is on his feet, it is mixed with dangerous errors and accidents.

 

Yeah, the extent of Kaz’s lack of skill is being greatly exaggerated by some viewers. He’s generally an ace pilot, and quick on his feet. His motor skills while on solid ground are just a little wobbly. How that inspires such contempt and hatred is beyond me.

 

Of course skill matters when your aircraft has become faulty. Kaz doesn't handle any of The Fireball's malfunctions (which I am also not a fan of) well. He just screams and lets the plot armour save him, The Rematch short video (see page 56 of this thread) being a prime example of this. He didn't use rudder yaw to avoid the Colossus and then when he finally stuck the flightstick back on he pulled back on the stick and then to one side. This should have left him dead inside the hanger's ceiling, but the plot armour saved him by ignoring Kaz's stick movement and making the Fireball pull a kind of handbrake sliding stop. Also a good pilot would never take off in an aircraft as dangerous as The Fireball, and doing so automatically makes Kaz a dangerous pilot in my opinion.

 

Then let's. Get. Dangerous! XD I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. LOL

 

Fair enough, I heard some mixed things about season 1 elsewhere.

 

Yeah, just make up your own mind. There are slapstick elements that are the primary brunt of the criticism. So your tolerance of that may affect your opinion. However, the visuals are the best of any Star Wars animated series so far, the world-building is interesting (particularly as it adds depth to the ST world), and at times, it’s even genuinely funny. Not perfect by any means, and it’s certainly aimed at a pretty young demographic, but in my view, it’s very unfairly maligned in some fan quarters.

For context, I say this as someone who’s favorite Disney Star Wars films are Rogue One and Solo...

 

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Wow, Hype is NOT happy with this new development is he? LOL He and Poe should bond. I have wanted Hype to be knocked off his high tower for almost a year now. Also, Kaz finally joins the Aces! Also also, "I'll Make A Man Out Of You" just started playing in my head. How 'bout you guys?!

 

Good stuff. Though as this is a Spoilers Allowed forum, I don't think you have to tag your posts as spoilery.