Full Series Official "The Clone Wars" Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

So is Obi-Wan. Plo does nothing in the name of the Council.

The whole situation is discarded as soon as possible. Anakin doesn't dwell on it. Neither does the episode itself.

That didn't happen either. The whole point of that arc is that Anakin is put in a situation where he's forced to let go of Ahsoka, and not by someone, but by the situation itself. He leaves not because Plo Koon orders him to leave, but because he realized there's nothing more to be done. Later Plo Koon even offers him advice in order to ease his mind and accept what had just happened. The end of the arc is Anakin recognizing that message that Plo Koon had previously given.

The only arcs that serve to fuel Anakin's distrust of the Council is the Deception arc and the season 5 finale. Everything else is unrelated.

 

3 siblins and master/apprentice who went different paths and it destroyed them. Each not knowing until later what happenned with the other. One Become the most evil being the galaxy has ever seen, one went itno hiding and portecting a child from danger and become old, One become a rebel and tried to help as many as she could even if there was little hope.

 

Not while Palpatine was alive.

 

Well to the galaxy Palpatine was just the empror while cruel and a tyrant, they didn't know he was a sith lord, unlike Darth Vader.

 

I don't think the galaxy at large knew that Vader was a Sith Lord. Or even knew what Sith Lord is. They just knew Vader is a big bad scary guy/robot and wherever he shows up, usually large numbers of people die.

 

I just finished watching the Season Four episode, "Massacre". It was, without a doubt, one of the dumbest episodes I have ever watched. What can one expect when General Grievous was brought into the mix?

Distrust? Because the Jedi Council didn't involve him in the plot regarding Obi-Wan's stint as a disguised assassin? Anakin simply came off as petulant, because the Council didn't involve him in the plot.

 

I think it was more that Obi-Wan didn't involve him in the plot. I didn't feel he was petulant. His distrust was justified.

 

It hurt Anakin more than anything which caused more distrust going forward. His relationship with Obi-wan never seems the same after this.

 

We didn't see that much of his relationship with Obi-Wan after this (other than ROTS).

 

The next arcs to really feature them together are briefly the Clovis arc and the Sifo Dyas episode. In that episode the banter between Anakin and Obi-Wan didn't seem very brotherly anymore. Even in the unfinished Crystal Crisis arc which gave real focus to them together and gave them some quality time seeming more brotherly things just seem off and soured. That may be one sided. In the added scene in the Bad Batch arc Obi-Wan seems complete normal and pleasant with him. He just says the wrong thing.

 

A win for TCW. This is fantastic. First an Annie and now an Emmy. Also Mark Hamill won an Emmy. This weekend is amazing

 

I completely forgot about that.

 

OK, I won't read through all this yet as I still have not seen series 7, but wow wow WOW!
Just finished series 6 !!

Pure Star Wars !!!
Loving it!

I have to admit tho, series 1-5 had a lot of filler with quite a few great episodes in there, but has really picked up ...
Cannot wait to start series 7, from the imdb rankings alone looks like I am in for a treat!!

 

That didn't make any sense to me. Anakin went into a snit fit, because he wasn't involved in Obi-Wan's spy mission as an assassin? Why? He was no longer Obi-Wan's padawan. He had his own padawan to look after. And no one within the Order - aside from Obi-Wan, Yoda and Mace - knew about the scheme. It's just a stupid reason to me for Anakin to feel distrustful toward Obi-Wan and the Council.

 

Is it really that hard to understand, that Anakin was upset because his best friend lied to him? Because he did not trust him? That they exploited Anakin's attachment to him, his loyalty, only to sell a reaction? If you can't understand why he was upset, you unironically don't get the character of Anakin Skywalker, I am sorry.

 

Spoiler: Bad batch spoiler

poor one out for Kamino. Man I am gonna miss it

 

Yoda, Mace, and even best friend Obi-wan used Anakin's reaction to sell Obi-wan fake death. Anakin is not a bog-standard dogmatic Jedi. He has his issues. Anakin loved Obi-wan and losing him caused significant pain. They lied and didn't trust him enough to include him in the plan. How can he trust them the same as before? The worse thing is using Anakin played right into Palpatine's hands since that was pretty much what he wanted. Palpatine predicted their entire plan and he instigated Anakin to go take down the supposed killer Rako Hardeen.

 

What is that passage from?

 

It's from Stover's RotS novel

Also the word "friendship" shows up a lot more than you'd think in a book about the Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker the Brave, but Foolish

 

Well Anakin was a good friend until of course he wasn’t

 

This is not a good excuse for Anakin's reaction. It's not. If it was okay for him to have a padawan learner, then Anakin should have been mature enough to understand that Obi-Wan was on a mission that required that very few people knew about it. Including him and other members of the Council. This is just good old fashioned spycraft. Nothing more, nothing less. Anakin getting outraged over this, considering the secrets he was keeping, is the dumbest thing ever to me. If Anakin was really that immature in his reaction to Obi-Wan's mission, then he was not mature enough to train his own padawan.

 

Anakin's maturity is not so much. Ashoka may have been snippy in the first couple of seasons but she was a relatively advanced Padawan in terms of skill early on. The Council assigned her to Anakin in a gambit to mature him and teach him to let go when her training finished. That doesn't go the plan. Anakin had a lot of issues. He was going to take a dim view to getting used by Yoda and Mace to sell Obi-wan's death because the latter was his friend and mentor. Anakin is just not detached as he should be. He's painfully human. It hurt him.

 

Anakin had every right to react the way he did. Manipulating people's emotions, as Obi-Wan admitted they did, is NOT cool. Especially when it's your best friend pretending he died right in front of you.