Senate Going Postal: The 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

You're clearly not getting the reference: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/04/sean-spicer-calls-concentration-camps-holocaust-centers.html

 

Yeah, just let's make the assumption that no one in the thread is actually Admiral_Thrawn60 or The_Gatherer and admires Hitler and his activities, and that if you think they do it's probably a satire reference you're missing.

 

Here you go, btw:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-fifth-democratic-debate-in-6-charts/

 

This analysis failed miserably last month. They concluded that Warren was one of those who performed best, whereas she had a huge drop in the two weeks following the debate.
Besides, Gabbard is strongly hated in general. If someone hates her, of course they're not going to change their mind after she attacks other candidates and the democratic party. This fact doesn't mean that Harris and Buttigieg did fine against her.
With Harris in particular, it just felt like an orchestrated attempt of the establishment to make her relevant again and give her a revenge.

 

I can think of one other person who thought that Gabbard got the better of him in that exchange: Mayor Pete. He looked stone-faced and livid while Gabbard was speaking, while she fully maintained her poise.

 

You do remember that The Gatherer was here for like five more years under a sock literally named "The Gatherer" in German.

In German.

He's probably here, is what I'm saying.

 

Considering I was primary sock-sleuth for Mod Squad? Yes. Yes I do. I just don't speak German.

 

After a re-watching, for Harris things went even worse. Pete's lovers were probably fine with him there. But Harris....

Gabbard: the Democratic party is subjected to the influence of the military industrial complex, I will end the policy of regime change wars adopted by the previous presidents.

Harris: hey, you are a Democrat, why do you criticize Obama? Why do you criticize Clinton? Why do you go to Fox News?

Gabbard: I fight for the people, I don't pledge my loyalty to a political party. Besides, you didn't have anything to say about the substance of my arguments, which suggests that you would actually continue the regime change wars.

Harris: ** incoherent platitude about being a unifying candidate for the people**



How the hell can an objective person claim that Harris won the exchange?

 

“Hello my name is Der Sammler and I come from... some place far away. Yes, that’ll do. Anyway I say we offer unconditional pardons to known Neo-Nazis.”

 

itt Vivec is zombie Hitler

 

This is so cringy

 

What do you guys think of this ?






On one side I kind of get the situation, since going after black protesters is tricky. On the other hand, when you are running for president, if there is something that you really want to avoid is to have another person who comes on stage and does something that you weren't able to do by yourself.

This is true in particular if you are a professor who is already victim of the consequent stereotype of being out-of-touch and unable to handle anything that is not related to your subject.

 

As I understand it, Warren then met with them after. I would say this is no different than when Bernie encountered Black Lives Matter protests. Both Bernie and Warren then met with the groups in private after and listened to their concerns. In the moment however, there is nothing they can really do if people want to be heard-part of their very brand is about letting people be heard. Kudos to Representative Pressley however for speaking up and doing so respectfully.

 

My point is that she was supposed to do herself what Pressley did for her. I'm purely talking about the image it gives, which might be naive but unfortunately it's important in campaigns. It doesn't look very good to appear so helpless that another politician feels the need to come on stage and talk for you.

 

They were protesting in favor of "school choice" (charter schools). Not at all like Black Lives Matter. I would have been fine with her just ignoring them.

 

Speaking of Warren, she apparently did an escape room. I imagine that is something Trump would never be able to do- work with a team, solve a clue and get out of the first room. Forget escaping the entire thing.

 

"Look at me! I'm Elizabeth Warren, the cool, hip candidate who does escape rooms and takes selfies with people while I think about how I'm going to massively increase the military budget!"

 

There is no doubt that she would never do something like that spontaneously.
When people discuss about authenticity issues, they're referring to stuff like this. With the same guys, Bernie simply discuss about the price of expensive shoes, which feels more like something he would actually do.

 

I don't think she necessarily plans to increase the budget by a lot, but history has shown that she's willing to based on past votes, and she can certainly be persuaded to by advisers while dealing with whatever potential crises (real or imagined) arise during her presidency.

But yes I do think all the other stuff is a cultivated image thing. I'm not really putting a moral judgment on it, but I do think it's a bit silly, at least from my perspective. But if it works for other people then .

 

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is back in the hospital.

Fever and chills. Hopefully something easily treatable and not related to her digestive tract.

 

Of course it is. To be fair however, she has been doing stuff like this since she became a Senator.

My point was that while she can poke fun at herself and play a game, Trump wouldn’t make it past the first room. He’d likely be pacing and standing too close to the other guys and then take credit for solving any clue.

 

Bloomberg officially in.

Ugh.