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Senate Pandemics in the Age of Globalization: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion: See OP Warning

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Punk , Jan 21, 2020.

  1. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Amazing how the MAGA crowd’s answer to everything they disagree with is always a noun, a verb and abortion.

    Of course the idea that masks protect those who are already here is completely lost on them, since the post-born are worthless in their eyes.
     
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  2. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Not to mention that the choice to wear a mask confers more benefit to those that one comes into close contact with than it does to yourself, provided that you choose to wear the right kind and put a little effort into wearing it properly.

    But that in a nutshell is why we're, as a whole, failing so miserably at it.
     
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  3. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    WTF is going on in Georgia?!?!?!?!?! Even Texas, while it has many many more cases, allows for counties to pass mask ordinances.

    GA sounds like a concentration camp!!!
     
  4. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    2020 is really a good one: after the plague, we get another plague.

    https://www.dhakatribune.com/world/...-seals-off-village-after-bubonic-plague-death

    The WHO says there's no high risk and says the situation is well managed.

    Now, where have I heard that before from the WHO? Oh yeah! Back in January and February for Covid-19!
     
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  5. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Different animal. Bubonic plague is a bacterial infection that can be eradicated with macrolide antibiotics. Not even in the same ballpark as COVID.
     
  6. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Apparently this is how they enforce mask-wearing in other countries :eek:

     
  7. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Good to know, I always already in this state:

    [​IMG]
     
  8. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Authorities in India are very efficient to make sure people respect the rules unlike western countries. You just need to look at how their police have managed the lockdowns and punished the offenders:

     
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  9. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The U.S. health secretary, Alex Azar, is on a visit for 3 days in Taiwan in order to learn how Taiwan has managed to contain the coronavirus pandemic under 500 cases and 7 death. It is the highest-level visit to the island by an American diplomat in more than 40 years since the U.S. switched diplomatic relations from Taipei to Beijing in 1979.

     
  10. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Can you imagine?
    South China Sea: Beijing mobilises invasion craft along coast as Taiwan tensions escalate
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12354855
     
  11. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This should go into Asian Geopolitics section.
     
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  12. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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  13. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Social distancing. Adequate testing and contact tracing. Wearing masks.

    Shame Azar had to travel to the other side of the world to be told the perfectly obvious.
     
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  14. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Chosen One star 7

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    To add on the bubonic plague thing: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/seriously-dont-worry-about-the-plague

    It's already in the US, it just is primarily not spread person-to-person, so transmission isn't as common, on top of what Vaderize said regarding it being treatable. I know areas that do have signs warning people to keep distance from animals that may be carrying it though.
     
  15. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You forgot to mention: no disinformation on the internet, and no toxic american / libertarian culture which pushes people to say nonsense stuff as: "I don't want to wear a mask! I want to protect my freedom!" or "5G causes covid-19!"

    We also had an anti-mask protest here in Montreal, but they weren't necessarily people from Montreal, they were thousands coming from all over the province of Quebec and some in Ontario: https://www.mtlblog.com/news/canada...-has-sparked-a-lot-of-conversation-on-twitter

    Just like this person on Twitter, I'm also waiting for the next protests againt the rules obliging you to wear your security seatbelt when driving, respecting the red light at traffic intersections, no drinking when driving, and no cellphones when driving:

     
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  16. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've mentioned this before, but I think it's likely that there's a correlation between those who refuse to wear a mask (or do so only grudgingly) and people who variously ignore many of those other laws whenever possible. I wouldn't be surprised to see some doctoral research along these lines in the future.
     
  17. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Chosen One star 7

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    For what it's worth, I have found that they aren't thrilled with being compared to drunk driving. And in some cases get extremely angry about that comparison.

    Which is all the more reason to make said comparison, imo.
     
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  18. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Bigger concern here will be availability of the necessary antibiotics should widespread outbreaks occur. Thanks to decades of outsourcing—not to mention cornering of supply chains thanks to pharmacy-benefit managers and group-purchasing organizations—the US could run dry really fast.

    You know, like what happened with PPE. And both parties are responsible.
     
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  19. CairnsTony

    CairnsTony Force Ghost star 5

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    That was my immediate reaction.

    In the age of mass, instantaneous communication, any eejit can get on their laptop or phone, and within minutes be reading up on what strategies Taiwan is adopting to deal with Covid-19.

    When I read about a scientific breakthrough on the other side of the world say, that I think people here should know more about, I don't jump on a plane to talk to people there in person about it. I google it, like any sane person, and then inform the curious where I read about it.

    In this instance, I would have thought a few emails and phone calls would have set things up nicely, in order for the information to be sent through in minutes; not least because right now might not be the best time to be setting up a meeting on the other side of the world in person.
     
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  20. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think his visit is meant to be more symbolic, especially in a changing geopolitical environment in East-Asia, but also for recognition of Taiwan's success in containing the pandemic after being denied once more a seat in the WHO three months ago, despite calls from many countries to include Taiwan.

    His visit is still appreciated by the Taiwanese public, especially after being isolated and almost insulted by the WHO when the director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, falsely accused them "to be racist" towards him simply because Taiwan's government criticized the WHO's handling of the pandemic. Director-general Tedros also said he received tweets from Taiwanese people being racist towards him, while in reality it has been proven to be Chinese bots. A citizen from an outside country won't be able to see the differences, but in China, they use simplified Chinese writing, but in Taiwan, they use traditional writing...
     
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  21. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Chosen One star 7

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  22. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    According to Vladimir Putin, his daughter has received a vaccine for the virus, as Russia has developed the first vaccine and wants to mass produce it.

    This sounds... unlikely.
     
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  23. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    Maybe he wants to get rid of his daughter. Who knows.
     
  24. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Chosen One star 7

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    And people say Trump and Putin are very similar
     
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  25. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    Agreed. Very unlikely for what little I know about Putin.

    Taiwan is doing some great things, of course everyone tip-toeing around China and boneheads like the WHO director-general prevent us from knowing some of this. I hope we can have better relations going forward.
     
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