Fanclub Plagueis: The Muun behind Damask

Hi DarthMaly,

Palpatine gave 11-4D a new surface after taking over. At least he announced so at the end of the novel. But AFAIK there is no grave his fate or that of the galaxy altering event in 11-4D's appearance after the Plagueis-novel anymore - at least until now. So feel free to use his character in your fanfic and don't be afraid it will turn AU involuntarily when Disney or Marvel should decide about ending that loose end too.

 

Sudooku

Thank you! My story is quite AU anyways, but I do like to keep some things standard. I'm glad to hear he is wide-open for interpretation; I've got some fun planned for him.

Of course, I would love for the powers-that-be to make Plagueis into a film, or a part of this new timeline. He's always been so interesting. We'll see, I suppose.

 

Glad you liked it! For those who are interested, here's the fan-fic in question, still in progress: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ed-memoirs-of-darth-plagueis-the-wise.409838/

 

Does the Chancellor have the power to appoint a co-Chancellor?

 

I imagine the legal minutia wouldn't stop Palpatine and Plagueis from going through with it.

 

The Republic in TPM may be corrupt, but I doubt they'd let the executive just magic up a new high-powered government position like that, as part of his inaugural address. Plagueis should have told Sidious to give him a high-powered government appointment that would make narrative sense, like Minister of the Treasury or something else in line with what the Senate knows of Plagueis' background (shady investment banker). Ask for less, get more.

 

Indeed but the law is for the inferiors as Palpatine pretty much explicitly stated.

 

Plagueis would have been able to convert and get along with Dooku better. He knew that in hindsight. When he chose Palpatine, he chose his slow decline and eventual defeat.

The way of the Sith, in the proper EU and even in the new Disney EU, is always ruthless, dangerous, etc. It's based on mutual manipulation. As such, it represents real-world dysfunctional relationships.

That doesn't mean it's not interesting to study per se. It's just, ya know, really gothic. He he he he he he.

 

A Sith master-apprentice relationship I'd say ideally goes through various stages-first the masters finds and chooses an apprentice the apprentice submits to the will of the master doing everything he or she is instructed to the letter, once this stage passes(a decade at least), the Sith apprentice can study more on his own and the master will regularly give him assignments too complete, they will have regular sparring sessions, the master probably quizzes the apprentice regarding what he has studied about x Holocron or something and eventually it reaches the latter stage where the apprentice begins to extract everything he can from the master, every piece of knowledge ferret out every deception, the master seeks to withhold this as long as possible while either preparing to kill the apprentice or find a new one. A late Master-Apprentice relationship is almost ritualized in its pretence-deception, and counter deception are the name of the game they both know a final duel is coming and they are both trying to extract everything possible out of the relationship. A final duel comes and the cycle continues.

 

There is one passage in the DP-novel, the talk between Plagueis and Venamis before their duel, which maked me wonder if a human can do this:

Can you speak while inhaling like Plagueis did? I can, but it sounds awkward. S turns inevitably to th.

What a nice idea of James Luceno!

 

Maybe it just meant he inhaled before he replied. Or maybe he could speak while breathing in air. Muuns do have a rather different biology after all.

 

DI,

I was thinking about that too because the English text isn't that outspoken as is the German translation. But real fans give it a try at least.

Sent from my smartphone while inhaling.

 

So Darth Plagueis fans-what does everyone here think an empire ruled by our favorite Muun would look like?

 

After several killing attempts and his carnal restauration Plagueis abolishes the Sith and stays behind the people he influences to do his biddings and to rule on his behalf. Thus he has more time for his researches and experiments. I could even imagine him to live and work in the New Republic.

As for the Empire-solution, he would have let Sate Pestage rule for him in case Palpatine would not be convenient anymore. I think his empire would have been better, for Plagueis would not tolerate Human chauvinism like Tarkin was proclaiming.

 

Eh, Plagueis was politically savvy enough to know when to exploit prejudice as Palpatine did.

I can see him being far more generous to the galactic megacorporations than the empire was.

 

I think there wouldn't be an empire in the first place. Pöagueis would rule from the shadows using one proxy chaneclor after the other, while keeping a lot of the everydays buisness going. I think he would have tried to rule without the galaxy really noticing him.
Maybe keeping his mask as Damask as well to strenghten his influence on the financial sectors.

 

Maybe but he did foresee himself ruling forever. Which is a long time.

 

Yeah but remember that at the end of the novel it becomes clear that Palpatine has been influencing Plagueis for a long time before he murdered him. So I guess maybe what he foresaw was Palpatines work as well.
Also he could have rule from the shadows for ever without ever begin noticed by most of the galaxy.

 

I mean imagine-being the immortal dark lord ruling over a whole galaxy for millennia on end. It would have to get boring at some point or another.

 

The only way to tolerate such a long reign is to create, to become a god. Plagueis actually understood this because of his midi-chlorian experiments. Ruling takes a toll, but to create, to make demons, angels, and everything in between would be amusing.

 

Well Palpatine intended to conquer the universe. An endeavor that no doubt would have gone on for a very long time.

But the sith’s ancient dream is godhood. Not just in a political sense, but to truly transcend mortality and the chains of sapient existence itself.

 

Really need to read the book again.

 

It is also the way of the Old Republic Sith, with Lord Malgus striking down Lord Vindican.

Ruthless is what is required to rule a galaxy. Gothic indeed, but also Roman, for The Romans were ruthless and yet they have left a mark on the world in the form of religion (the cross), politics (Senate), Law (Most Judicial Systems are Roma based) and etc. It is the same with the Sith, they leave behind a mark, one that burns in the hearts of all who seek the mystery of the dark side.

 

They're ruthless until toothless.

 

The dark side has a good dental plan.