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Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by HevyDevy, Dec 18, 2019.

  1. Emperor Ferus

    Emperor Ferus Chosen One star 7

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    How did Palpatine survive?

    Why is Rey romantically attracted to Kylo at all?

    Where did Pryde come from?

    What's Jannah's story?

    What happened with Rose and Finn?

    What's Maz's deal?
     
  2. Blame_It_On_Lucas

    Blame_It_On_Lucas Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    So uhm what is story to how Anakin's lightsaber ended up at Maz's cantina?
     
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  3. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Force Ghost star 6

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    What happened to the Snoke Clones in the tanks?

    What happens to the remains of the First Order?
     
  4. Boba_Fett_00

    Boba_Fett_00 Jedi Master star 4

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    I must have missed it...how did Leia die?
     
  5. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Force Ghost star 6

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    what happened to Rey's parents? those flashback scenes went by pretty quick , were they murdered?
     
  6. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    @Emperor Ferus

    How did Palpatine survive?

    Clones, Sith occultism, Frankenstein, unnatural dark side means.

    Why is Rey romantically attracted to Kylo at all?

    Birds and bees.

    Where did Pryde come from?

    That's like asking what Jerjerrod's story is as he turns up in RotJ, or what is Needa's story, or Piett's story. They're there; Pryde himself confirmed that he served the Empire in the film.

    What's Jannah's story?

    Bit nonspecific.

    What happened with Rose and Finn?

    Unclear. Presumably they are not a couple, but who knows.

    What's Maz's deal?

    She's helping the Resistance... what else is there to it? She's an ancient Force user who decided this time to get involved.

    @Darth Smurf - The entire Sith temple was wrecked and destroyed, Snoke clone tanks with it.

    The First Order was smashed by the galaxy, thus the montage.

    @Boba_Fett_00 - She reached out to Ben from across the galaxy; it killed her for the same reason Luke died.

    @gezvader28 - killed with the Dagger at Palpatine's order.
     
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  7. NarcBear

    NarcBear Jedi Youngling

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    A few things that I'm still working out...

    Why was there a map to Luke?
    Why did Lor San Tekka have it?
    Why did Maz have Luke's lightsaber?
    What's up with Kylo and the knights in Rey's vision?
    Who does Kylo think Rey is? (he's all raging when he hears about a girl in TFA.. he thinks he knows her from somewhere.. even Sidious in TROS says "she's not who you think she is") Who does he think she is?
    After 3 movies we still know nothing about the Knights of Ren and they again do nothing here.
     
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  8. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Just mainly how did Palpatine build the Sith fleet and get the manpower of millions
     
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  9. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Why was there a map to Luke?

    It's a map to the first Jedi Temple, where Luke is hiding. It's not a map to Luke...?

    Why did Lor San Tekka have it?

    He and Luke were allies in the hunt for Jedi knowledge.

    Why did Maz have Luke's lightsaber?

    No idea.

    What's up with Kylo and the knights in Rey's vision?

    Also no idea.

    Who does Kylo think Rey is? (he's all raging when he hears about a girl in TFA.. he thinks he knows her from somewhere.. even Sidious in TROS says "she's not who you think she is") Who does he think she is?

    Someone like him.
     
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  10. Jabba_Wookie

    Jabba_Wookie Jedi Padawan

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    If Kylo Ren had stepped on a grenade and died in the opening scene, would anything have changed about the ending of this movie?

    I guess he wouldn't have healed Rey at the end, but everything else would have still happened.
     
  11. RetropME

    RetropME Jedi Knight star 3

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    Don't know if this is an "answer" to any questions per se but I really like the idea that Palpatine's son (daughter?) was essentially a test-tube baby who ran away as soon as they had an opportunity to escape, maybe they even ran away because of Palpatine becoming emperor. I hope that's what they go with in future material as it would be about the only way I would accept Ray Palpatine.
     
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  12. Fin McCool

    Fin McCool Jedi Knight star 3

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    Rey would've gone ahead with the Sith ritual?
     
  13. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Game Winner star 5 VIP - Game Winner

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    Well, her family has a history of unexplained deaths caused by amount of stress and sadness.... I think she used her last energy to show a vision of Han Solo to Ben
     
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  14. Jabba_Wookie

    Jabba_Wookie Jedi Padawan

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    Maybe? But we don't know if that would have worked without any exposition. Everything the Emperor and Snoke did was along the lines of "Ha, I wanted you to think that so I planted an idea". There might be no ritual at all.And she eventually killed him anyway?

    Damn this was bad from a storytelling aspect.
     
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  15. NarcBear

    NarcBear Jedi Youngling

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    Why would that enrage him?
     
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  16. NarcBear

    NarcBear Jedi Youngling

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    Also, Rey apparently has the power she does because of Palpatine, but his own son didn't seem to have it.. Or maybe he just never tapped into it? I'm not clear why Palpatine had Rey's parents killed.
     
  17. zackm

    zackm Winner of ST Trivia Special Edition star 4

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    Ochi stabbed them with the dagger.
     
  18. Fin McCool

    Fin McCool Jedi Knight star 3

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    I agree the storytelling was sparse and the answer is unknowable. And staging a fake Sith ritual would be pretty delicious, for whatever purpose that may have been. Perhaps Plapy sensed Ben's imminent arrival and was drawing things out until then, in which case his later comment about the dyad did not result from a serendipitous discovery.

    I'm just going on what I inferred to be Rey's intent in the moment, given Plapy had her over the rails in a nicely classic Plapy way. It seemed to me Rey discovered Ben's presence in an instant and his presence gave her renewed focus. Shrug.

    At any rate, I don't sense a disconnect between the ritual (if not a fabrication) and Rey ultimately killing Plapy. It seemed clear to me Rey was only the vessel used by which a thousand generations of Jedi, likely acting on the will of the Force itself, to rid the galaxy of the perversion of Plapy's presence. Because that's the theme that I can sense from that portion of the narrative: perversion. The saga should be over (Anakin himself said he restored the balance), and this threat shouldn't exist, but here it is.
     
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  19. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Yellow/orange yes
     
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  20. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Force Ghost star 6

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    Dunno if anyone wants to have a go at this but -
    could you summarise the 'treasure hunt' plot ? Ochi and the dagger and why it has a secret key to locate that wayfinder thingy etc.
     
  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    As best as I can understand it Ochi carved the location into the Dagger and that’s about it. Luke suspected something was up with Exgol and tried to hunt it down with Lando.
     
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  22. SWRed7

    SWRed7 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Interpretation: The questions about Snoke not being able to simply take control of Rey and Kylo in TLJ is very similar to the reason the Emperor could not foresee Vader turning on him in ROTJ. I’ve always loved Luke’s line in ROTJ, “You’re overconfidence is your weakness.” One of the most overused lines by me day to day.

    I believe Palpatine did not need Rey at all and even declares she is weak like her parents. Whether Palpatine convinced Rey or not to strike him down, Palpatine was confident the Final Order would take over. If he possessed Rey or not. Rey would be gone no matter what. Either fatally, or spiritually depending on her decision.

    Also, my favorite part of the TLJ that I believe was well respected in this film is Yoda and Luke’s conversation discussing how failure is the greatest teacher and how she/they (interpretation) will become beyond even what they can understand.

    Rey and Kylo, just like snoke were just puppets in Palpatine’s plan. However, two of them would become even greater then he is.

    Final thought for now before I watch over and over to keep learning and using the imagination, Rey’s use of both of her teacher’s lightsabers combined with 1,000 generations of Jedi were far more powerful than that of Palpatine.

    I’m sure I will get laughed at for some of this who have their minds made up. But, this is what I believe thus far. I’ll be back Sunday after I see it a third time.

    May the force be with you. Always!
     
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  23. Django Fett

    Django Fett Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I reckon Palps would sit and watch them swim around doing their version of Squid Lake...Snoke Lake, well he is an opera fan.
     
  24. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    The ending montage implies all the first order is dead. We know it’s leadership is dead.
     
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  25. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Why did we see Star Destroyers suddenly falling out of the sky at endor, Jakku and Bespin?