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Discussion Potential Threats/Antagonists For New Films

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Future Films - Spoilers Allowed' started by King Maul, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Arden Lyn, one of the founders of the Sith and inventor of Teres Kasi. She could be a narrator for the formation of the Sith and the first Jedi-Sith conflict and I like the idea that Teres Kasi was passed down from her all the way to Maul and Qi’ra.
    MCU Lucas, like real-life Lucas, found the Journal of the Whills and made movies based on it. ;)
     
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  2. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 6

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    That way lies the next Galactica 1980. No thank you.
     
  3. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 5

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    Call them what you want but I’m betting the big bad in the next film will be a Sith or something very Sith like that uses red lightsabers.
     
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  4. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 6

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    Here's something different: a being that evolved in and from dark matter. This could be totally alien in a Lovecraft-horror sort of way, just seeing it is a blow to most peoples' sanity. Its actions seem senseless and its purpose unfathomable, but definitely not good for the known galaxy.
     
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  5. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    I’d like for it to be an expansionist faction of the Mandos. Led by a Putin-esque revanchist figure who believes that the best defense of Mandalore is offense. A Mando Empire.
     
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  6. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    1. Flawed, centralized, detached, bureaucratic Jedi following the orders of a flawed, apathetic, systematic Republic serving as the gray antagonists.
    2. A sympathetic authoritarian government that's not as plain evil as Palpatine/Snoke/Tarkin/etc., to have a conflict that shows why authoritarian government even when not cackling evil is still bad.
    3. A sympathetic liberator/freedom-fighter antagonist who focuses on the ends justifying the means, no matter how bloody. Think of a mix of the Red Lotus in Legend of Korra with Daenerys Targaryen in Game of Thrones.
     
  7. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 5

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    There will be no future threats. All the new movies are going to be set in the past so all we will have will be past threats that have been long defeated and dead.
     
  8. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Well, all the movies are set a long time ago, so...there’s never been a future threat.
     
  9. Tython Awakening

    Tython Awakening Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think George originally wanted to go in the direction of connecting the SW Galaxy to Earth. But yes, Galactica 1980 came along. Many people would be turned off...but I think SW would be a richer experience by going the Galactica 1980 route with C-3PO, R2, BB-8, and other droids being sent to Earth in a time capsule. Of course, the idea that the droids outlived all the humans is too scary for children and not Disney-friendly.

    Future Threats? time travel, droids "outliving" humans
     
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  10. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 ST/Anthology/Fan Films Manager and Ewok Enthusiast star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Any connection to Earth would make me turn in my fan card. It's probably the one thing that would ruin SW for me. And AFAIK Lucas never wanted that either - it was just some fan speculation in the early 80s.
     
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  11. CernStormrunner

    CernStormrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Dark Matter, eh?
     
  12. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    We got that “sorta” with Saw in Rogue One and Rebels
     
  13. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 5

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    mind = blown. :p
     
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  14. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel Socially And Emotionally Distant Mod Of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    TITLE UPDATE.
     
  15. Bob Effette

    Bob Effette Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jawas vs Ugnaughts
     
  16. Lord Jocusta

    Lord Jocusta Jedi Padawan

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    I think it would be cool to have Mara Jade as a main dark side villain in a Rey trilogy. Her redemption could come in the World between Worlds when she is shown what her life could have been (I.e Skywalker). Would be interesting plus healing for some of the fan base.
     
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  17. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm into the idea of the big bad being somebody from the criminal underground who isn't Force sensitive and the stakes are smaller than the fate of the galaxy hanging in the balance.
     
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  18. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Yup. And having their power derive not from hand-to-hand combat skillzz, but with the powerful criminal organizational structures they’ve built around them. That also makes for more layered and interesting world-building. Otherwise, it’s just ghouls fighting wizards like some cheap D&D campaign.
     
  19. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Knight star 3

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    I thought Prince Xizor and SOTE was a decent story, similar to this idea. He was an ultimately doomed threat - which we knew would fail - but was interesting enough and not galaxy-threatening.

    I'd be up for something like this and the Underworld footage (although of a poor standard) got me thinking this could be possible.

    I'd quite like to see something that brought together the traits of people in gangster/Mafia-style organisations and the autocratic/fear-inducing Empire. (I haven't seen the Mando yet...!)

    More generally, I'd like to see local threats/stories with resolutions over 1-3 episodes. So TV format, not films.
     
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  20. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's pretty much what made me excited for the Star Wars Underworld series in the first place.

    That said, it would work better for the first villain of a live-action show before moving on to the next villain.

    I'm not saying that I don't want it... but as a large corporation Disney sort of has to think about the "general audience" and unfortunately I believe that the stakes will always be rather big. But hey, I hope that we get just what you describe. And really, the galaxy needs a break.

    I mean, it definitely needs a break from what's essentially been nearly 60 years of chaos and instability; from the Clone Wars up to the... death star ships in TROS lol. ;)
     
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  21. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Go watch Mando, for God’s sake!
     
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  22. Rogue Knight

    Rogue Knight Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I doubt they'd go down this route but an intergalactic Yuuzhan Vong type threat may be interesting if done properly.
     
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  23. Darth Jar-Jar

    Darth Jar-Jar Jedi Youngling

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    i would like to see jar jar binks become the sith master
     
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  24. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Knight star 3

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    I know! Whatsa meesa doin'?!

    Really looking forward to it. :)
     
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  25. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    I love this idea. I think you guys are basically talking Prince Xizor.

    I also love Bor Mullet's idea about a rogue Mando.

    The idea in this thread I don't like is "alien invasion." Not only do we already have an galaxy of aliens who need to be explored in more detail, making the concept of alien invasion kind of absurd and redundant, but it's a xenophobic fantasy that the evil (illegal) alien other from the outside will bring the divided people in the internal world together. Aliens come together because of the "truly evil" aliens.

    The only spin on this idea that would work for me, maybe, possibly, would be if the evil were truly some impossible evil like a negative metaphysical presence like Lovecraftian beasties. That situation works better because the "aliens" would be more like supernatural monsters than an actual alien culture, but even this comes darn close, or even just is, a more subtle form of xenophobia.

    I honestly think conflicts in SW are always best when they function as allegories or speculative fictions about human freedom and governance. Crime lords works well here because that's part of the individual's struggle with castrated freedom and law.
     
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