Senate Prepping for US Autocracy

Ehhhhhhhhh watching the new moron governor in Virigina make a complete full of himself already should be a reminder that the right at the end of the day greatest weakness will always be their incompetence. Right now Republicans are trying to gerrymander a majority in congress anyway they can but projections are now showing that won't happen so even when they cheat they are not very competent.

And Ron Fliposowki explain the schism between the right and left very well:



In summary. The left needs to toughen up because the right will never ever ever become empathic or not want confrontation. White Jesus says it's okay to use whatever tactics they want (not the real one) to get what they want.

 

They don’t need to be competent, just angry and armed. They can do a hell of a lot of damage with just those two things.

 

If the right were to actually successfully establish a right-wing authoritarian government after stealing a Presidential election, armed revolution would likely become necessary, I’m afraid. Hope it doesn’t come to that, but American democracy is in deep trouble, and its defenders should definitely be prepared to defend it. And to be clear, this is not a fantasy. This is a fear. A nightmare to hopefully be avoided. But if it materializes, I certainly won’t stay asleep.

 

Central to a democracy is voice AND exit. Which is why I never understood right-wingers who mocked people for threatening to leave the US. The ability to leave is a core freedom! They should love it when people do that.

 

1) you live here, you are not leaving, you are not protesting, and you are not dying. By your own earlier remarks, you are okay with with it. You need to do one of those three things, otherwise you are accepting living in a society founded on and defending itself with violence. You do not get to take any kind of moral high ground here.

2) there is a concept. That concept is wrong and stupid.

 

The weird thing is, Conservatives are supposed to be pro freedom and invidualism and all that stuff and they love the Constitution and all the stuff America was founded on.
So they say anyway

And I saw that there were Republicans who were against what happened in the Capitol as an attack on democracy & who hated Trump for not conceding when he'd obviously lost.
So even though Trump was someone who clearly would have become an authoritarian dictator if he got the chance, there are plenty of moderate Republicans who wouldn't stand for that kind of thing

Would the military stand for it?

 

Large numbers of senior military voices have been warning about the possibility of a dictatorship in America. My feeling is that the military would split along similar lines as the general public, while leaning anti-authoritarian. Those who take their duty seriously remember that they swear an oath to the Constitution, not the President. I think that has a lot of power in the ranks.

 

Plus the Senate and the FBI & the CIA surely wouldn't stand for that kind of thing, neither would the Supreme Court.
Although, impeaching Trump did exactly nothing so I guess that option doesn't work so well when a President breaks the rules

 

Just for clarity. There’s not just the CIA in the intelligence community (IC). There are 17 different intelligence agencies that make up the IC. And I’d guess that about 90% of that community would actively resist an authoritarian takeover.

 

Absolutely love trusting the CIA, FBI, and military to defend democracy.

 

They're incompetent, but they're persistent.

Or support it.

 

No, I’m quite certain that around 90% of IC personnel would oppose it. But that other 10% is still worrying.

I don’t love it at all - nor do I trust it. It’s far too fraught a dynamic. Just stating, based on my knowledge and experience, where I think those segments of the US government would likely stand. At least at the start.

 

dp

 

I actually agree with you, from the point that the current form of government is something these agencies are actually fine with. They get the deniability of being part of a nominal liberal democracy, while still getting to do the authoritarian and shadowy actions that they do.

Which should scare you about how bad things really are here.

 

I hope everyone agrees that we (in the U.S.) live in a dystopia. Only a sadist would set up a society like the one we have here.

 

You are an incredibly sensitive man who inspires joy joy feelings in all those around you.

 

Aren’t a lot of republicans turning on each other like complete warlords for power?

Just like isis vs Taliban, but only it’s far right wing Christians in America at each other for power.

 

If only you had done some edgy posts on a Star Wars message board about how many people you will beat up as a communist ninja revolutionary.

 

Just like Zsinj and Treuten Teradoc.

 

well what do you propose to counteract the coming autocracy

 

Pretty much crime is going get a lot higher than it already is if the autocracy comes.

 

I think Anakinsfan already listed the suite of acceptable options. Contrary to some of the discussion here, they can do quite a bit to destabilize regimes and are a major source of concern. I realize that it's not as cool as talking about a moment where "anything goes" and getting to unsheath your Wolverine claws, but exodus/mass migration can be hugely problematic. As much if not moreso than someone murdering a bunch of people, half of which usually end up being other civilians you are supposed to be "helping."

 

Almost as edgy as consistent serious posting in the ****post thread.