PS2 will whoop your ***!

Yeah, it will be some time in Semptember. I don't think there is an official release date. I think we will hear it at E3 in May.

 

I want white background.

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I wish I could go to E3. Only business people get in there though.

Yay, 900 posts. 100 to go.

EDIT: Deleted the pics.

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I lied back there. It's out tomorrow in Japan. Dangit.

 

PS2 hype is hitting the states big-time. It just made the cover of this week's Newsweek magazine, article below:

http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/printed/us/st/a16816-2000feb27.htm http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/printed/us/st/a16816-2000feb27.htm

 

It was amazing to see how much the media fell over Dreamcast and the hype they gave it. I mean, didn't the realize both PS2 and Dolphin would annihilate it as soon as they came out?

 

It'll be interesting to see if they've manufactured enough. Sometimes it seems like they make way to few to flatter themselves. "Oh, we've shipped 250 000 and that wasn't enough." I don't see how they can be queing 2 days before its' out. Wouldn't it be easier to go to a smaller town where there are no lines at all? That's the case for me.

 

I don't think the Dreamcast will go down with out a fight. First of all, the price. When PS2 comes out the Dreamcasts price will drop to about $150. Compared to the PS2's price of $300+ dollars, that's one great deal. Now to us hardcore gamers, $300 for the PS2 seems high, but to the average person or family it seems just crazy. However, a system that costs only $150 and has tons of games seems a lot more appealing. Second of all, right now the graphics on the Dreamcast don't look that much different than the PS2's graphics. Another thing, the PS2's games aren't exactly getting amazing scores when rated, they're getting good scores, but mainly because they have good graphics. Plus, the Dreamcast has awesome games too. And also think of all the people that already own a Dreamcast. And the Dreamcast will be the first to use the net. I'm not saying that I'm going to run out and get a Dreamcast, I'm just saying that they won't get crushed that easily.

 

I think it's gonna be a hard fight between the 3 of them but look at this, ain't it beautiful?

http://headline.gamespot.com/news/00_03/03_vg_launch/screenshot4.jpg

I wish that was my room.

 

No, that silly paper bag ruins it.

 

The Playstation 2 is capable of producing 20 million polygons per second, the Dreamcast can only make 3 million. However, if you look at screenshots, you can hardly tell a difference. I know that Ridge Racer, Gran Turismo, and TTT have amazing graphics, but look at some of the Dreamcast's games, like Soul Calibur, Ecco the Dolphin, and Metropolis. It seems like for now the Dreamcast can keep right up with the PS2. And since the Dreamcast will drop it's price to about $150, I think the PS2 definately has competition. Look at it this way, the Dreamcast's games look just as good as the PS2's games, the Dreamcast will be half the price of the PS2, it will have more games, it has 4 controller slots, and it looks a lot better then the PS2's design (I think the all black PS2 is pretty ugly). To see the screen shots of the Dreamcast games I was talking about go to these places:

Ecco= http://dreamcast.ign.com/news/13685.html http://dreamcast.ign.com/news/13685.html

Soul Calibur= http://dreamcast.ign.com/reviews/10953.html http://dreamcast.ign.com/reviews/10953.html

Metropolis= http://dreamcast.ign.com/news/10924.html http://dreamcast.ign.com/news/10924.html

 

I think Sony is underestimating the Sega Dreamcast. To me, it seems as if they think they're just going to sit back and watch the Dreamcast get blown away, however Sega has some real tricks up their sleeves. As you all know, the Dreamcast already has some great games out there, Sonic, Crazy Taxi, Soul Calibur, NFL 2K, NBA 2K, Hydro Thunder(the N64 and PSX versions have horrible graphics), and Ready 2 Rumble (about the same thing with Hydro Thunder except not quite as bad). But then what a lot of people don't know about is the awesome line up for this year. While some games speak for themselves, like Sonic Adventure 2, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, and Ecco the Dolphin, there are others that look just as good. For example, Rush 2049. If you haven't played a Rush game before, you don't know what you're missing. Rush 2049 takes place in the future and is supposed to have all the stuff that made the series popular, except everything will be 100x better, better shortcuts, better jumps, better graphics, better courses, I think you get the picture. Also, Super Runabout is supposed to come out sometime this year. It has been described as a combination of Driver, Gran Theft Auto, and Crazy Taxi. From that description alone you can tell it will be great. Deep Fight is another game that people haven't really heard a lot about. It's been described as Wing Commander under water. Also, there's Metropolis, which if you went to the link in my above post and looked at the screen shots, I don't think I have to say anymore about this game. And I saved the best for last, Eternal Arcadia. I don't even want to start telling you about this game, just go to the link and see the shots.

Rush 2049= http://dreamcast.ign.com/previews/13634.html http://dreamcast.ign.com/previews/13634.html

Deep Fighter= http://dreamcast.ign.com/previews/11922.html http://dreamcast.ign.com/previews/11922.html

Eternal Arcadia= http://dreamcast.ign.com/previews/12817.html http://dreamcast.ign.com/previews/12817.html

Super Runabout= there's not a whole lot on it yet

 

I am thinking that sony is going to leave nintndo in the dust with ps2 . (Nintendo came up with pokemon so you know they need help) I am think Dreamcast with a dvd player and maybe a new line of controlers. If sega can get a lot of Lucas Arts licences they will be in good shape.

 

I am thinking that sony is going to leave nintndo in the dust with ps2 . (Nintendo came up with pokemon so you know they need help) I am think Dreamcast with a dvd player and maybe a new line of controlers. If sega can get a lot of Lucas Arts licences they will be in good shape.

 

That seems pretty good but no one's ever said Sony ain't got nothing up their sleeve. There are loads of great games on it's way for PS2 too.

 

Another thing that Sega has that Sony doesn't is experience. Now most people when they look at Sega's past they see that Sega has failed miserably before and think that they're probably going to do it again. However, since Sega has failed before they probably know why, and have definately shown with the Dreamcast that they've learned from their mistakes. I think the Dreamcast will do very well in the U.S. even against tough competition like Sony and Nintendo. Even though Nintendo will probably be the last to release their system, that doesn't mean you should count them out of the picture. Right now they have a big advantage. The PS2 will not come with a modem, the Dreamcast does. Nintendo can look and see which one does better and using this info they can determine which is better to have. Same with DVD, PS2 can play DVDs right out of the box, Dreamcast will have an attachment. Nintendo will look at the sales and determine which is better and use that for Dolphin. Also, Nintendo will have a huge selection of launch titles for Dolphin. I mean, they were going to have games ready by the end of the year, so now they practically have another year to make more games. It's definately going to be a tough battle and interesting to see who comes out on top. Which will be terrific for us gamers! Look at it this way, if it's a close race then systems will most likely make the best games they can to out do the competition, but mean while the competition is making better games than that to try and out do their competitors. It will hopefully be 1 great game after another.

 

Actually, I'd say that Sony has pretty much put their cards on the table. I wouldn't expect to see anything new from Sony. I think their biggest surprises would just end up being that the fifth Twisted Metal is on it's way or something like that, just another sequal. Which of course it will come eventually. After all, look what we will see on the PS2, the 3rd Gran Turismo, the 4th Tekken, the 5th Ridge Racer, the 4th Crash Bandicoot, the 3rd Spyro, the 2nd Medal of Honor, the 2nd Metal Gear Solid, the 3rd driver, probably the 3rd Grand Theft Auto, and I gurantee that we will see the 5th Cool Boarders. By the way, I have a question, when are we actually going to see the "Final" Fantasy?

 

Ya, I think N is out if the picture. DC and PS2 will have a tough fight. I certainly don't think Sega has failed before. I loved my Sega 8-bit 10 times more than my NES. Alex The Kid definitely beats Mario. But if you look at the sales statistics the PS is in the lead. 53 million PlayStations have been sold, the only thing who beat that is Gameboy with about 80 million consoles sold.

I'm not gonna post all the pics but everyone should check this out: http://ps2.ign.com/news/16088.html#media http://ps2.ign.com/news/16088.html#media

I'm so excited! My tummy is all sirred up!

 

Does anybody know the price of the PS2's games? I heard it was $63 with tax. Which would actually make it $59.99. I don't know for sure though.

 

Oh, gimme a break. Nintendo is most certainly not out of it. As soon as Dolphin comes out, it will be a fantastic 3-way battle. All three companies will be trying to make the best games, and we'll really benefit!

By the way, I have a question, when are we actually going to see the "Final" Fantasy?

Never. It's way too popular to die, and they can almost make up new characters, as they've done in the past. I have some friends who are obsessed with it. All they talk about it anime, MagicTG and Final Fantasy. Scary.

 

Well, Yoshi, the thing is that Sony and Sega already has earned loads and loads of money when the Dolphin is out. I believe many people will buy either PS2 or DC instead of the Dolphin just cause they don't wanna wait. I would have considered which one I was gonna buy but that's no problem since there'll be no Dolphin for at least a year.

 

Franz Flash - Actually, I'm glad that isn't my room. As much as I'd love to have the PS2 and that big screen TV, there's no where to sit except the ground! If there was a nice comphy chair there then I'd be glad to have it.

 

Nintendo will do well in the race simply because it's got an advantage on both Sega and Sony. Like I explained before, Dolphin will have which ever options are better, being shipped with a modem or having it sold seperately, and being able play DVDs right away or having an attachment sold seperately. The reason I say Dolphin has an advantage over Sega is because the Dolphin will probably be just as cheap as the Dreamcast but will be way more powerful. The reason I say Dolphin has an advantage over PS2 is the price, the number of controller ports, but mainly the GAMES. (Here is another one of those times when I'm going to go on and on about how Sony makes nothing but sequals, if you want to skip it just go to the #### signs.) PS2 will soon see the 2nd Medal of Honor, the 2nd Metal Gear Solid, the 3rd Spyro the Dragon, the 3rd Gran Turismo, the 4th Tekken, the 4th Crash Bandicoot, and the 5th Ridge Racer. Now I gurantee we will see even more updated versions of games on the new system. Look at most of the reviews, they saw nice graphics but this game really didn't bring anything new to the series. The should have just called the system, Playstation 2: The Sequal Box. #### People don't want to play the 35th Metal Gear Solid, they want to play games they grew up with, like Mario and Zelda. These games have practically become their friends. They've seen Mario grow from the 8 bit world of the NES to the 128 bit or higher world of the Dolphin. They feel a type of connection to Mario and it's like running into an old friend when they help Link save Hyrule again. Nintendo gives me this warm special type feeling that I just don't get from playing Playstation. Sure, the 30th Crash Bandicoot game or the 28th Spyro game may be "cool" and have great graphics, but the magic just isn't there. And don't even say how Nintendo has made 10 Mario games or 8 Zelda games, they have made that many games over a spand of 5 different systems. The fact is that each system will be unique in it's own little way, but that when it comes to experience and creativity, Nintendo has Sega and Sony both beat.

 

Will I buy one?

No.

Why?

(1) If I really, really, really need to have a certain PS2 game in my reach, it would be available on my computer. (2) My friend will have one, and I can play with his.

 

Jason> There may be a chair behind the camera which they had to move to take the pic.

Spartacus> It's rather ironic you chose Metal Gear Solid as an example. That's one of the best games I've ever played (not only me). If one game has magic it's MGS. I've never felt so enchanted playing a game before. Besides, the first 2 games was originally made for Nintendo 8-bit. And practically none of the sequels they've made for the PS has been bad. If you look at the average of points in reviews, PS has much higher numbers than N64.

Besides, you can play old PS games and not only that, the graphic is better if you play them in the PS2. Screw you Nintendo!
Here's a few examples (I won't post all the pics (it would take forever to load this page, click the links instead):
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/00_03/05_vg_psgrafx/screens.html?1Metal Gear Solid
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/00_03/05_vg_psgrafx/screens.html?2Metal Gear Solid again
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/00_03/05_vg_psgrafx/screens.html?3Vagrant Story
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/00_03/05_vg_psgrafx/screens.html?4Vagrant Story again
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/00_03/05_vg_psgrafx/screens.html?5Vagrant Story *3
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/00_03/05_vg_psgrafx/screens.html?6Ace Combat 3