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  1. gianakin

    gianakin Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Loipon,afou pira tin idea apo tis sinexeis anametriseis mas me ton Kris,anoigo to thread gia na milame anenoxlita edo gia oti theloume epi tou thematos.Ksekinao os apantisi ston Kris sto allo thread me to review tou RotS:



    Opote ksanadeis to ROTS, molis o Obi-Wan me ton Anakin proxwrane arga panw stous swlines, panw apo tin lava. Ekei pou exw ta exw dei ola, dagkwnw nyxia, exw gourlwsei ta matia, erxetai aiwroumeno apo panw deksia ena droid pou koubalaei lava, tous koitaei, rixnei kai mia matia sto koino, kai meta feygei pali katw. Kinimatografika, enw to endiaferon mas einai epikentrwmeno sto bathos tis othonis, oi irwes kinountai pros ta "mesa", to droid erxetai sto foreground, me diaforetiki taxytita ap'oti kinountai oi irwes mas sto "bathos". En oligois, mou APOSPA THN G@^^H^^ENH PROSOXH apo ayto pou ginetai! Einai anti-climatic, me xalaei, den einai swsto!

    A,afto.Nai,to eixa dei,nomiza oti eides robot me ixous paidikous stin Duel.Kala,den kanan k tipota to spoudaio,koutso paizan sto solina.Allou einai to provlima me tin maxi,oxi ekei.


    Ta palia ftiaxtikane me to budget kai tis dynatotites tis epoxis tous. Einai foberes tainies, klassikes, alla pragmatika perimena na ginei i PT kai na ta skisei. Na ta afanisei. Na ta kanei ftwxous syggeneis estw. Gia mena, einai poly kales tainies ws exoun alla blepw kai ena TROMERO POTENTIAL pou DEN BGHKE POTE stin epifaneia. Milame gia mia poiotita, pou tha trabage OLON ton kosmo sta cinema, oxi mono fans kai argosxolous. Milame, na kanei skoni ton Titaniko, na ksexastoun ta Matrix, na rwtane oloi Lord of the...who? Twra, exoun xwristei oloi oi fans se ypostiriktes kai mi, to koino dixasmeno, to ROTS espase tameia gia...2 OLOKLHRES bdomades, gia na kseperastei apo to Madagascar. Nice...

    Em,i PT kseperase se poliseis ta palia,pire idies kritikes me ta palia(nai,nai,ta palia ta thavan k tote) kai tha doume tora pou oi amiioitoi arxizoun na ta vlepoun poia einai i gnomi tous,Lipamai,alla sintoma tha apodeixtei oti exeis adiko.K oi epoxes allazoun,to SW de tha magevei panta,opos k tote de magepse ooolon ton kosmo(px i mana mou to eide to 1977 k to sixathike,k polloi alloi vevaia).Den katalavaino,to SW den einai pantodinamo.



    Koita, o Hales exei ena "onoma" kai opws kai oloi, epityxies kai apotyxies. Kai as ypothesoume, oti apo tin stigmi pou o Lucas allazei tous titlous twn tainiwn kai vazei to "Episode IV-VI", tote itane pou skeftike na kanei ta Prequels. Eixe mia 20ETIA na ta grapsei, na ta tsekarei, na ta dwsei se Spielberg, Coppola, se opoion kserei kai mporei na plirwsei, OXI na tou allaksoun to story (diko tou einai) alla na elegksoun, poies skines douleuoun, poies oxi, dialogoi, ktl. Na min "kobontai" simantikes skines, gia xari tou Jar Jar slapstick, na min ypaxoun kena kai continuity errors. Na ginei mia istoria, opou kathe ti pou eipwthike gia to parelthon sto Star Wars, na ginei to mellon tou Star Wars.

    Tora ti thes,na anafero to Artifiacial Intelligence kai to Terminal toy Steven i to Nonos 3 tou Coppola gia malakia story?Eleos me tin pisti sta megathiria.


    Nai, alla apo to SW perimena poly perissotera, giati exei toses apeires pithanotites, o dimiourgos tous apeira lefta kai xrono kai ta kalytera cone sto Hollywood. Na sou kati? Opou kai na koitaksw sto TFN, pantou, briskw fan fictions. Ayta pou einai remake twn Prequels einai poly pio apolaystika ap'oti oi tainies kath'aytou! Ftasame sto simeio to biblio tou ROTS na einai kalyteri empeiria apo tin idia tin tainia!

    Na sto theso kafrika(alla den to ennoo epithetika).Den me noiazei.Eisai enas,eimai enas to exo ksanapei.To vivlio to vrikes kalitero apo tin tainia,mprav sou,diavaze afto,opote exeis oreksi gia RotS.Sou aresoun ta fan fictions?OK,diavaze afta anti gia ta Epeisodia.O Lucas xrisimopoiise lefta,conne kai xrono k evgale afto.Afto itan to kalitero tou kai afto mou arese.Ekane lathi viasinis antistoixa me ta lathi logo afragkias sta palia.Alla an esi den to dexesai os to kalitero tou,den einai epixeirima pou me peithei oti de xrisimopoiise kala to xrono tou.
     
  2. Urkanoid

    Urkanoid Jedi Knight star 4

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    Kata ti gnomi mou, oi opoies anantistoixies metaxu PT kai OT, einai elaxisths simasias kai o George se kathe periptosi katafere na tis kratisei se apolutws anekto epipedo.Proswpika, otan blepo SW (opoiodipote apo ta 6) den exw kanenos eidous perithorio gia kritiki.Eilikrina.Apla aisthanomai tuxeros pou mporw na summetexw se auta ta drwmena, estw kai ws theatis, kai I just flow with it, that's all... [face_love] [face_hypnotized]
     
  3. SithLOrd_REvan

    SithLOrd_REvan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Egw ena pragma exw na pw :

    Sygrinete tis duels Obi1 -Anakin kai Vader-Obi1...Les kai prokeitai gia allo eidos maxhs !
     
  4. gianakin

    gianakin Jedi Youngling star 3

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    E,ntaksei,den einai to pio atrantaxto metro sigkrisis afto,kata ti gnomi mou...Diladi einai ena metro,alla de nomizo na einai to pio kathoristiko.An einai gia sena vevaia,paso,kanena provlima!
     
  5. SithLOrd_REvan

    SithLOrd_REvan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Entaksei hmoun ligo ypervolikos.Oi dyo monomaxies den sygrinontai vevaiws...
     
  6. Urkanoid

    Urkanoid Jedi Knight star 4

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    Stin pragmatikothta prokeitai gia allo eidos maxhs.Ta ekfrastika mesa pou exei sth diathesh tou twra o George, einai apeirws perissotera apo auta pou diethete kata thn diarkeia twn gurismatwn tou ANH.H anesh pou exei twra na pei thn istoria tou me prosxhma thn polu mikroterh hlikia twn Vader kai Obi-Wan exei ws apotelesma mia polu dunamikoterh anametrhsh me safws grigoroterous ruthmous.Sin to gegonos oti o N.Gillard einai theos...
     
  7. Master-Mythos

    Master-Mythos Jedi Youngling

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    Pistevo oti opios to blepi to thema san Pt kai Ot katadaei na xani tin ousia....me tin enia oti egklovizese se ean favlo kiklo. POS na sigkrinis dio pragmata pou pera apo senario/titlo/thema/iroes, ine telios diaforetika. Afu milame gia ales epoxes, ales texnologies, ala ithi, ala ethima bre aderfe.......
    Epita den mporo na dexto to apirovlito tis Ot. O kathe asxetos mpori na bgeni kai na arxizi na epeni tin Ot xoris na exi idea. Ine san tous Black Sabbath, theorite oti genisan to metal kai ine toso eureos gnosto auto pou o kathenas tha mporuse na imni tous Sabbath xoris na kseti tipota. Etsi kai to OT. Profanos exi epireasei to Cinema kai to fantasy idos pio sigkekrimena se bathno apisteuto. Alla den exi i OT lathi. Den exi genikotites kai asafies??
    Den dixni para ena poli mikro kosmo tou Star Wars?? Alla ine poli eukolo na imnis tin OT.
    Kai ti connection mpori na dimiurgisa ego os Ellinas eikosidiaris me mia trilogia i opia dimiurgithike ages ago kai me tin opia den "megalosa" me tin enia pou to lene oi palioteroi??

    Bebaios oute i PT ine sto apiroblito(Spoudaia siniditopoiisi e? :p )
    Polla pragmata tha mporusan na ine kalitera....alla giati na bazume ola ta episodes stin idia mira?? Pirazi pou to Ep.3 GAMEI KAI DERNEI?? Pirazi pou to Ep.2 ine poli kalo?? PIRAZI POU MERIKOI GOUSTAROUN JAR-JAR?? Osous tous pirazi, ksidi. To Star Wars ine to tsifliki tou Lucas kai to kani oti theli.Kai o kosmos as apofasisi monos tou....
    Giati na thavume sinexia?? Oloi exun trelathi me ta lathi metaksi Pt kai Ot...Ama ise negatively predisposed idi, tote ine fisiko na psaxnis gia lathi kai na ise olo gkrinia.
    Den ime o fostiras tou Star Wars, alla exo di tin PT kai pote ma pote kanena lathos senariakis fisis metaksi PT kai OT den mou sterise tin viewing pleasure. Ine fisi adinato na eksigithi to kathe ti apo tin Ot sta Pt.
    To Ep1 to theoro isos to pio adinamo. Tapini mou gnomi. Den to vrisko dinato san tenia.Alla aloi to latrevoun. Gousta. Oxi oti den to euxaristithika otan to ida( kai katalaveno apolita giati ftiaxtike opos ftiaxtike). Kai to gegonos oti to vrisko adinamo den mioni tin aksia ton alon tenion.
    Kai epitelous, korones kai fanfares enadi ston Lucas (i opiondipote skinotheti/dimiurgo) apo
    anthropous i opioi den kseroun na kratane camera, i oi singrafikes dinatotites ftanoun mono sta spoof, ine ASTIES.
    PROSOXI! Den anaferome stin igiei sindialeksi kai kritiki, ala se tipous stil " na pethani o Lucas", "mou katestrepse tin zoi", "atimase tin OT", "ine axristos" klp. GET A LIFE.

    Tespa, autoi ine merikoi prvlimatismoi, kai an akougomai dogmatikos I AM SORRY. Basika auto to post ine apotelesma brainstorming sto net cafe, alla den pistevo na epesa poli ekso apo tis thesis mou genika.
    O dogmatismos odigi se stira skespi. Den ine ta pragmata apolita. Gousta, epoxes, sinthikes ola alazun ton kosmo giro mas kai emas.
    Kai i PT kai i OT exun dinata kai adinata simia.Just like that.......
     
  8. Obi-Kris_Kenobi

    Obi-Kris_Kenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Kala ekanes kai ksekinises ayto to thread, gianakin. Elpizw na min eimai monos mou se oti sxolio kanw ("If you're not with me, then you are my enemy!" :p). Eixa kai megalepibola sxedia molis eida to thread, tou typou na broume ta lathi prwta twn paliwn tainiwn kai meta tis PT, alla kati tetoio thelei poly xrono kai xrono den exw katholou twra me tin eksetastiki :(.


    A,afto.Nai,to eixa dei,nomiza oti eides robot me ixous paidikous stin Duel.Kala,den kanan k tipota to spoudaio,koutso paizan sto solina.Allou einai to provlima me tin maxi,oxi ekei.

    Den einai i skini me tous swlines pou exei xtisei tin entasi mou, einai olo to duel apo tin arxi. Exw agwnia, exw adrenalini sto full, ta matia mou exoun anoiksei diaplata, einai oti perimena na dw kai mpainei ayto to sk@t0 kai me ksenerwnei. Symfnwnw, den kanei kati, ara omws giati na einai mesa stin skini? Ypotithetai oti prepei na to proseksw, na to eklabw san xaritwmeni leptomereia? Oxi, einai teleiws ektos klimatos, mou apospa thin prosoxi. Den thymamai se alla duels, se oli tin Saga, na mplekontai droids i otidipote allo stin skini. Oso gia to problima tis maxis, poio thewreis oti einai? O xronos i to montaz? H mipws kati allo?


    Em,i PT kseperase se poliseis ta palia,pire idies kritikes me ta palia(nai,nai,ta palia ta thavan k tote) kai tha doume tora pou oi amiioitoi arxizoun na ta vlepoun poia einai i gnomi tous,Lipamai,alla sintoma tha apodeixtei oti exeis adiko.K oi epoxes allazoun,to SW de tha magevei panta,opos k tote de magepse ooolon ton kosmo(px i mana mou to eide to 1977 k to sixathike,k polloi alloi vevaia).Den katalavaino,to SW den einai pantodinamo.

    H PT kseperase se pwliseis tin OT, giati i anamoni gia to TPM itan terastia, mias kai to EpI ekane ta perissotera xrimata. Ennoeitai oti oi neoi theates tha strabomoutsouniazoun me tin palia trilogia, giati den tairiazei me tin PT: Ta skafi, ta ktiria, i texnologia genikotera fainetai pio ekseligmeni stin PT, enw ypotithetai oti ekselisetai paliotera. Den yparxoun skafi typou Millenium Falcon ,wste otan to blepei o Luke, na dikaiolgitai i antidrasi tou: "What a piece of junk! Me ayto tha petaksoume, ayto einai mia 30etia palio!". Apotelesma: H OT fainetai ligotero gyalisteri, entypwsiaki, bareti, ta duels einai tis plakas (alla dikaiologimena), alla otan i PT einai gemati effe, i OT tha fanei ftiniariki, stin nea genia toulaxiston.


    Tora ti thes,na anafero to Artifiacial Intelligence kai to Terminal toy Steven i to Nonos 3 tou Coppola gia malakia story?Eleos me tin pisti sta megathiria.

    Touche! Den exw dei kanenan Nono, oute to Terminal kai to A.I. alles fores mou fainetai kalo, alles metrio - to senario itan tou Kubrick pantws kai to senario einai i rahokokalia mias tainias.


    Na sto theso kafrika(alla den to ennoo epithetika).Den me noiazei.Eisai enas,eimai enas to exo ksanapei.To vivlio to vrikes kalitero apo tin tainia,mprav sou,diavaze afto,opote exeis oreksi gia RotS.Sou aresoun ta fan fictions?OK,diavaze afta anti gia ta Epeisodia.O Lucas xrisimopoiise lefta,conne kai xrono k evgale afto.Afto itan to kalitero tou kai afto mou arese.Ekane lathi viasinis antistoixa me ta lathi logo afragkias sta palia.Alla an esi den to dexesai os to kalitero tou,den einai epixeirima pou me peithei oti de xrisimopoiise kala to xrono tou.Einai diki sou apopsi.Ksanaleo,exei kseperasei se poliseis ta palia kai exei idies kritikes.Osoi den exoun dei ta palia,tous aresei i PT.Lipamai.

    Ti einai ayto pou me eftase se ayto to simeio? Den ithela entypwsiasmo, den ithela na petyxei i PT sta matia mou? San trelos. Den dikaiologountai ta lathi biasynis, giati eixe dyo dekaeties na ta etoimasei. Eixe apeira xrimata. Kai to gegonos oti i PT bgazei episis xrima, den simainei oti einai kai "epityximenes" - den einai to box office kritirio.


    Tin patises,to SW itan anekathen gia paidia.To exei pei o Lucas.To oti exei kafrika stoixeia mesa pou travane k emas tous romantikous,den mou leei kati.To SW einai gia paidia(kai min mou pei ka
     
  9. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    P.T. = PERFECT (it's STAAAAR WAAAAARS, man!!!)
    O.T. = PERFECT (it's STAAAAR WAAAAARS, man!!!)

    The Godfather 3 = Almost PERFECT, not PERFECT because: "PERFECT" was defined by The Godfather 2

    :cool: [face_dancing]
     
  10. Master-Mythos

    Master-Mythos Jedi Youngling

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    OBI-KRIS QUOTE:

    EDIT: Master-Mythos wrote:
    Kai epitelous, korones kai fanfares enadi ston Lucas (i opiondipote skinotheti/dimiurgo) apo
    anthropous i opioi den kseroun na kratane camera, i oi singrafikes dinatotites ftanoun mono sta spoof, ine ASTIES.
    PROSOXI! Den anaferome stin igiei sindialeksi kai kritiki, ala se tipous stil " na pethani o Lucas", "mou katestrepse tin zoi", "atimase tin OT", "ine axristos" klp. GET A LIFE.

    Ayta peri spoof kai kameres, den pisteyw na apeythinontai se kapoion symfoititi kai filo sou?
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    To skeftika kai gelasa oti tha tsimpuses....se bazo sta plaisia tis logikis sindialeksis
    (gia tin ora!! :p )
    Ala as katalavoume oloi oti ine poli apla adinato na dimiurgithi kati kai na aresi se olous.
    To Star Wars ine the materialization tis istorias pou theli na pi o Lucas. Fisiko ine na min aresi se olous i ilopioisi tou. Ta fan fiction klp ine the materialization of the stories other people have in their heads. Fair enough!!
    PAO STIXIMA OTI ME TON IDIO TROPO THA VROUME ALES ADINAMIES SE OPIA TAINIA KAI AN IPARXI KAI MPOROUME NA TIN ALAKSOUME PROS KATI POU THEOROUME KALITERO.
    Not??
     
  11. Master-Mythos

    Master-Mythos Jedi Youngling

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    OBI-KRIS QUOTE:

    Master-Mythos, tha mou fas ligo xrono sta Gnet alla tha sou grapse kati sta grigora:

    Se oli tin PT, to kolpo me ta decoys tis Padme paizotane synexws. Oles tis moiazane, tin antikatastousane, ktl. As poume oti to ROTS paei ws exei, i Padme gennaei alla DEN pethainei. O Bail apofasizei me ton Yoda kai ton Obi oti tha tin parei mazi tou ston Alderaan, AN KAI DEN PISTEYEI OTI THA ZHSEI GIA POLY AKOMH STHN PSYHOLOGIKH KATASTASH POU EINAI. Diladi, i Padme pernaei ena diastima me tin Leia, enw o Luke paei ston Tattoine. Alla argotra pethainei apo "broken heart" i oti allo thelei na pei o dimiourgos. Alla mi mou les oti gennise dyo paidakia kai exase to "will to live" epeidi o antras tis eina dolofonos kai pige stin Dark Side.

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    Thanx for the time [face_love]

    Etsi opos to ekane o Lucas ine poli pio dramatico omos. Petheni o Anakin kai i Padme kai geniete o Vader kai ta twins.To fall tou Anakin ine pio pisteuto kai dinato.
    Gia skepsou kai ligo auto pou egrapses....I Padme kseri oti den tis menoun poles ores kai ti kani??? Dioxni to gio tis makria?? Me pia logiki?? An i Padme zi sta krifa me olous autous opos les, o Luke tous pefti parapanisios??Tha tous anakalipsun eksaitias enos parapanisiu moru?? Kai giati na min ton analavoun empisti anthropoi tou Organa, oi opioi bebaios den tha kseroun tipota gia tin tautotita tou Luke?? Xoria pou i Padme prepi na zisi arketo kairo oste na dimiurgithun kapies anamnisis. Ala epita, i Leia to mono pou tha exi ine kapies axnes anamnisis? klp klp
     
  12. gianakin

    gianakin Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ksexoristo post gia na po ena terastio SIMFONO APOLITA ston Master-Mythos.Evge,epitelous enas pou skeftetai ipokeimenika!Mpravo sou!Akolouthei k i apantisi ston Kris...
     
  13. Obi-Kris_Kenobi

    Obi-Kris_Kenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ^^^
    Wx,wx...

    [Tarpals] Ouch time! [/Tarpals] :p
     
  14. gianakin

    gianakin Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Den einai i skini me tous swlines pou exei xtisei tin entasi mou, einai olo to duel apo tin arxi. Exw agwnia, exw adrenalini sto full, ta matia mou exoun anoiksei diaplata, einai oti perimena na dw kai mpainei ayto to sk@t0 kai me ksenerwnei. Symfnwnw, den kanei kati, ara omws giati na einai mesa stin skini? Ypotithetai oti prepei na to proseksw, na to eklabw san xaritwmeni leptomereia? Oxi, einai teleiws ektos klimatos, mou apospa thin prosoxi. Den thymamai se alla duels, se oli tin Saga, na mplekontai droids i otidipote allo stin skini. Oso gia to problima tis maxis, poio thewreis oti einai? O xronos i to montaz? H mipws kati allo?

    Oxi,einai i moni maxi.Alla protimo afto pou egine apo to na ginetai intercut i duel sto Ep5 me tin Leia/Chewie/Lando na trexoun i tin Duel sto Ep6 na ginetai intercut meta Ewoks.Skepsou ti einai pio anti-climatic k pes mou...Gnomi mou,fisika.


    H PT kseperase se pwliseis tin OT, giati i anamoni gia to TPM itan terastia, mias kai to EpI ekane ta perissotera xrimata. Ennoeitai oti oi neoi theates tha strabomoutsouniazoun me tin palia trilogia, giati den tairiazei me tin PT: Ta skafi, ta ktiria, i texnologia genikotera fainetai pio ekseligmeni stin PT, enw ypotithetai oti ekselisetai paliotera. Den yparxoun skafi typou Millenium Falcon ,wste otan to blepei o Luke, na dikaiolgitai i antidrasi tou: "What a piece of junk! Me ayto tha petaksoume, ayto einai mia 30etia palio!". Apotelesma: H OT fainetai ligotero gyalisteri, entypwsiaki, bareti, ta duels einai tis plakas (alla dikaiologimena), alla otan i PT einai gemati effe, i OT tha fanei ftiniariki, stin nea genia toulaxiston.

    Teratio lathos,ksananafero to Ep4 pou to vrikan polla atoma vareto kai Cajolin/Ewoks eknevristika,polloi men DEN PEIRAXTIKAN TOSO apo ton JarJar oso apo ta Ewoks.Lipamai,alla den einai mono ta effe.


    Touche! Den exw dei kanenan Nono, oute to Terminal kai to A.I. alles fores mou fainetai kalo, alles metrio - to senario itan tou Kubrick pantws kai to senario einai i rahokokalia mias tainias.

    Lathos,i idea itan tou Kubrick k to senario tou Steven.To opoio senario itan LAME,me terastia grammata.O Kubrick den tha ginotan toso paidikos k kourastikos,eidika apo to simeio pou to nianiaro pagidevetai ipogeia k i tainia tha teleione omala.Kudos ston Lucas pou den pire ton Steven,apo afti tin plevra.


    Ti einai ayto pou me eftase se ayto to simeio? Den ithela entypwsiasmo, den ithela na petyxei i PT sta matia mou? San trelos. Den dikaiologountai ta lathi biasynis, giati eixe dyo dekaeties na ta etoimasei. Eixe apeira xrimata. Kai to gegonos oti i PT bgazei episis xrima, den simainei oti einai kai "epityximenes" - den einai to box office kritirio.

    Einai ena kritirio,toulaxiston gia na sou deiksei oti eisai apo tous ligous gia tous opoious i PT den petixe.Sta matia sou den petixe,e,entaksei,ti na ginei.To 2010 isos na einai kaliteres gia sena oi tainies.Opos eipe k o Master-Mythos,de ginetai na aresoun se olous.


    Edw symfwnoume. To iksera oti to SW einai gia paidia, alla toulaxiston sta palia ypirxe mia issoropia. Alla meta tin 11/9/2001 allaksane ola: CGI aima, katholou bia, oxi ekrikseis, flwrika pragmata, PANTA APO TIS MAINSTREAM TAINIES. Kai gia na leme ta syka-syka, bravo ston Lucas pou tolmise na balei to Jedi Temple na kaigetai kai to "Invisible Hand" na kommatiazetai san to Columbia otan peftei ston Coruscant, den to perimena ayto, den kwlose katholou. Sto ANH, o Luke briskei tous theious tou kammenous kai o Obi-Wan kobei to xeri enos alien, gemizontas me aimata to patwma. O Han Solo pyrobola ton Greedo me tin mia (asxeta an o GL to allakse sta Special Editions). Alla pote den eniwsa asxima otan ta eblepa ola ayta mikros. Ypirxe I-S-S-O-R-O-P-I-A se olous tous tomeis.

    Kai tora den iparxei?Ti allo thes pera apo afta pou edeikse sto RotS?I mipos ta itheles k stis 3 tainies?


    shhh Min tou bazeis skoteines idees!

    Makari na ginei afto.I OT gia mena thlei polli allagi.O Theios exei pei oti i PT einai to oneiro tou k i OT einai ta misa apo afta pou ithele na
     
  15. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    ^ Prin synechisete, na pw oti ta Casolin den eichan oute MIA skini humor TOSO kakogoustou oso tou Jar-Jar. O Wicket tylichtike gyrw me tin sfendona tou, mono afto. O Jar-Jar ekane afto kai alla chilia. Kai sto Ep. 6 eida skines me Ewoks na ton skotwnondai, na tsakizondai, na fainetai pws einai katwtera re paidi mou, den eida omws ton Jar-Jar na PYROVOLAEI DROIDEKA KATA LATHOS ME TO PODI TOU!!!!!! :eek: [face_frustrated] :mad: Kai tin idian wra o Qui-Gon kai o Obi chinane ton Aliakmona se idrwta gia na fane ton Maul... Oiktro, oiktro... My point: KAI i P.T. thelei allages, ochi mono i O.T.. Kai symphwnw, i machi sto Ep. 6 thelei pali ap' tin archi. My vote: GAMA TA OLA STO C.G.I. LUCAS MEGALE, O.T. kai P.T., ksana mondaz, I TAINIES GAMANE, KAN' TES TWRA NA GAMOKOPANE!!! :cool: [face_dancing]
     
  16. gianakin

    gianakin Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Pesta paloukari mou!Mono na min aggiksei tipota o Burtt...An k efige o kar**lis!!!
     
  17. Obi-Kris_Kenobi

    Obi-Kris_Kenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ts, ts, ts, ti nootropia einai ayti me tis 3-Dies! Na ta allaksei ola...Ksereis mono ti na kanei me ta 3D? Kathe space battle stin OT, na tin kanei ksana apo tin arxi alla me idia skinothesia, mono me nea texnologia. Giati sto DVD fainontai i ateleies apo to prwimo bluscreen. Alla to duel sto Ep6 na allaksei? TI LETE MWRE!? STAMATHSTE TO KARVOUNO! OXI ALLO KARVOUNO!!!! Ti den einai kalo se ayto to duel? Emena me trelainei!


    Kai tin idian wra o Qui-Gon kai o Obi chinane ton Aliakmona se idrwta gia na fane ton Maul... Oiktro, oiktro...

    Enw ama to edeixne synexomena kai adialeipta...aaaah, sweet dreams!
     
  18. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    ^ Plot-points den tha allaksei (symandika toulachiston) sigoura. Tha se peiraze na vlepeis tin idia FOVERI TAINIARA, apla pichtra sto TELEIA GAMATOSUPERFWTOREALISTIKO C.G.I., mondaz pou anadikneei ta kala tis chwris na tin adikei (gamw to Burtt mou, gamw [face_frustrated]), kai dyo-treis veltiwmenous dialogakous? Ooooooochi... :cool:
     
  19. Obi-Kris_Kenobi

    Obi-Kris_Kenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ^^^
    An den allaksei tous dialogous, symfwnw. O katharismos eikonas pou ekane sta DVD itan foberos! Alla o Burtt ton mamise ton ixo, den akous katholou mousiki, mono ekrikseis kai laser...[face_frustrated] Opws grafw kai parakatw, an kanei as poume ta TIE fighters 3D, e nai, tetoies allages ennoeitai!




    Reply to gianakin:

    Oxi,einai i moni maxi.Alla protimo afto pou egine apo to na ginetai intercut i duel sto Ep5 me tin Leia/Chewie/Lando na trexoun i tin Duel sto Ep6 na ginetai intercut meta Ewoks.Skepsou ti einai pio anti-climatic k pes mou...Gnomi mou,fisika.

    Faintai pws kathe duel prepei na "kobetai" se orismena simeia, etsi einai i epilogi tou Lucas apo to A New Hope kai sebomai to oti pote den to allakse, se kammia periptwsi. Einai xaraktiristiko twn duels. Mono to Duel eprepe isws na kanei adialeipto, i mallon me 1 dialeimma mono (fantazomai gia olous isxyei oti to ROTS duel Anakin VS Obi-Wan einai to Duel me 'D' kefalaio). To kalytero isws intecut to exei to ANH, kathws o Obi-Wan taytoxrona apasxolei ton Vader kai boithaei etsi ton Luke, me tou opoiou tin diafygi ginetai to intercut.

    Anticlimatic intercut exoume isofarisi metaksy TPM kai ROTJ, opou ayto pou ginetai me ta Ewoks kai ta Gungans einai asygxwrito! An diekopte me tin space battle mono sto Ep6 tha itan poly kalo. Twra etsi opws einai, mono na perioristoun oi skines me ta Ewoks ginetai.

    To AOTC den exei problima, opws kai to ESB. Sto AOTC exei mia logiki bre paidi mou, mas deixnei ton Yoda, tous Clonous, tin maxi, tin Padme. Sto Ep5, den me xalaei tipota. Yparxei i entasi an tha prolaboun na glytwsoun oi idioi kai na swsoun kai ton Han apo ton Bobba.


    Teratio lathos,ksananafero to Ep4 pou to vrikan polla atoma vareto kai Cajolin/Ewoks eknevristika,polloi men DEN PEIRAXTIKAN TOSO apo ton JarJar oso apo ta Ewoks.Lipamai,alla den einai mono ta effe.

    Ti Ewoks, ti Gungans, kai ta 2 einai gia petama apo to parathyro tou Palpatine! To EpIV, na tin pw tin amartia mou, ama den eixe tis eisagwges twn xaraktirwn kai to mythologiko skiniko tha itan ontws bareto. Alla einai Star Wars, einai to prwto kai apo ekei ksekinisane ola.



    Kai tora den iparxei?Ti allo thes pera apo afta pou edeikse sto RotS?I mipos ta itheles k stis 3 tainies?

    Den tha me xalage na exw 3 tainies, apo tis opoies to ROTS tha thewroutane to xeirotero! Enw twra einai dikaiologimena to kalytero tis PT. Afou o Theios den ithele na kanei megales tainies se diarkeia, as ksekinage i istoria apo to AOTC kai as itane ta dyo alla episodeia i istoria tou ROTS. Skefteite to, ena 5wro ROTS...=P~



    Re ti pa na pei den to vlepeis?Einai dikes tou tainies lemeee!Aftos tis eftiakse,pos exeis apaitiseis?Einai dikes tou,katalave to.Exei logous dikous tou,dioti einai erga dika tou!Pes tipota re Mythos!Kai nai,na allaksei tin OT me vasi tin PT dioti i PT antapokrinetai 100% sto oneiro tou.To diko tou oneiro,oxi to diko sou!Eleos.

    Ara o Theios koimatai kai oneireyetai Ewoks kai Gungans... Episode I: Jar Jar's Adventures. Episode VI: Ta Ewoks Tis Agapis. Den zitisa na kanei to diko mou oneiro, apla na synexisei ekeino to wraio pou ksekinise to '77 kai stamatise to '83...:(



    Akoma stekei afto pou leei o Owen.Otan tous pige to moro o Ben poli pithano na tous eipe "kratate ton,alla low profile,dioti o Anakin egine o Vader k skotose tin man tou paidiou".Para poli logiko.Ase pou perasan 18 xronia,den ksereis ti paixtike...

    Eida kati tetoio sto ROTS? Em, den eida. Entaksei, to deixnei poly wraia alla den tha me xalouse na elege kati kai o Owen... Alla den eixame xrono na to deiksoume...[face_frustrated]



    Pali kala...An k antifaskeis ligo,dioti se merika simeia akougesai toso pathiasmenos san na tin boycottareis

    Min anysixeis, den ksemwrathika akoma! ;)




    Analothikes se olokliro 10lepto tainias sto Ep2 kai se mieaoro tainias sto Ep3 gia na diorthoseis to "lathos" me to fotospatho k af
     
  20. gianakin

    gianakin Jedi Youngling star 3

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    An den allaksei tous dialogous, symfwnw. O katharismos eikonas pou ekane sta DVD itan foberos! Alla o Burtt ton mamise ton ixo, den akous katholou mousiki, mono ekrikseis kai laser... Opws grafw kai parakatw, an kanei as poume ta TIE fighters 3D, e nai, tetoies allages ennoeitai!

    Nai re ,afta tha kanei.Tora,k 1-2 atakes na allaksoun apo ton Ben gia na tairiazoun me tin PT den me xalaei,XARXARXAR!


    Faintai pws kathe duel prepei na "kobetai" se orismena simeia, etsi einai i epilogi tou Lucas apo to A New Hope kai sebomai to oti pote den to allakse, se kammia periptwsi. Einai xaraktiristiko twn duels. Mono to Duel eprepe isws na kanei adialeipto, i mallon me 1 dialeimma mono (fantazomai gia olous isxyei oti to ROTS duel Anakin VS Obi-Wan einai to Duel me 'D' kefalaio). To kalytero isws intecut to exei to ANH, kathws o Obi-Wan taytoxrona apasxolei ton Vader kai boithaei etsi ton Luke, me tou opoiou tin diafygi ginetai to intercut.

    Nai,katalavaino tin logiki.Apla den mou aresei i idea tou intercut.Mono sto Ep2 den me peirakse k sto Ep3(kala sto 3 ti na me peiraksei,eleos!)


    Anticlimatic intercut exoume isofarisi metaksy TPM kai ROTJ, opou ayto pou ginetai me ta Ewoks kai ta Gungans einai asygxwrito! An diekopte me tin space battle mono sto Ep6 tha itan poly kalo. Twra etsi opws einai, mono na perioristoun oi skines me ta Ewoks ginetai.

    Ontos,simfono.An k i maxi me tous Gungans einai poli theiki,an vgaleis tis mlkies tou JarJar,oi Gungans sa laos einai poli kaloi k oraioi warriors.Ta Ewoks den me peithoun gia maxites,gia xaritomena,gia tpt.Ego ena leo:An eixame Tarpals anti gia JarJar den tha legan kouventa toulaxiston oi misoi apo tous bashers tou Ep1.


    To AOTC den exei problima, opws kai to ESB. Sto AOTC exei mia logiki bre paidi mou, mas deixnei ton Yoda, tous Clonous, tin maxi, tin Padme. Sto Ep5, den me xalaei tipota. Yparxei i entasi an tha prolaboun na glytwsoun oi idioi kai na swsoun kai ton Han apo ton Bobba.

    Oxi oti me xalaei,apla sto Ep5 prosopika me endiaferei poli perissotero i Monomaxia apo ton aspro kittaritidiko polo tis Carrie Fisher na trexei apo do k apo kei.Alla de me xalaei toso oso ta Ep1 k 6,opote no sweat.


    Ti Ewoks, ti Gungans, kai ta 2 einai gia petama apo to parathyro tou Palpatine! To EpIV, na tin pw tin amartia mou, ama den eixe tis eisagwges twn xaraktirwn kai to mythologiko skiniko tha itan ontws bareto. Alla einai Star Wars, einai to prwto kai apo ekei ksekinisane ola.

    Opos elega k me ton Starkeiller gia tin mousiki simera,ego ta vlepo san tainies k oxi san mouseiaka kommatia/prosfora.Kai epeidi to vlepo etsi k epeidi to skeftomai ksana kai ksana tis teleftaies meres,to Ep4 pleon einai i ligotero kali mou tainia SW.Einai poooli vareti se sxesi me tis alles.


    Den tha me xalage na exw 3 tainies, apo tis opoies to ROTS tha thewroutane to xeirotero! Enw twra einai dikaiologimena to kalytero tis PT. Afou o Theios den ithele na kanei megales tainies se diarkeia, as ksekinage i istoria apo to AOTC kai as itane ta dyo alla episodeia i istoria tou ROTS. Skefteite to, ena 5wro ROTS...

    Eixame 3oro alla o Lucas me tin gkomena tou ton Burtt frontisan gi'afto.Fisika einai to kalitero.Alla gia sena epeidi oi alles 2 sucked,eno gia mena apla epeidi tis kseperase.


    Ara o Theios koimatai kai oneireyetai Ewoks kai Gungans... Episode I: Jar Jar's Adventures. Episode VI: Ta Ewoks Tis Agapis. Den zitisa na kanei to diko mou oneiro, apla na synexisei ekeino to wraio pou ksekinise to '77 kai stamatise to '83...

    Na oneirevetai oti thelei.Kala kanie,to aksizei k me to parapano.Gia mena to oraio tha teleiosei tin teleftaia fora pou tha do to RotS sinema,den teleiose me tpt to 1983.


    Eida kati tetoio sto ROTS? Em, den eida. Entaksei, to deixnei poly wraia alla den tha me xalouse na elege kati kai o Owen... Alla den eixame xrono na to deiksoume...

    Eilikrina afto den me enoiaze na to do.Fantasia exo,mporo na dexto oti se 18 xronia exoun paixtei skinika.Den thelo na ta do OLA pia.


    Pws ksereis oti "trwne" toso xr
     
  21. Obi-Kris_Kenobi

    Obi-Kris_Kenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Nai re ,afta tha kanei.Tora,k 1-2 atakes na allaksoun apo ton Ben gia na tairiazoun me tin PT den me xalaei,XARXARXAR!

    Grrrrr...



    Ontos,simfono.An k i maxi me tous Gungans einai poli theiki,an vgaleis tis mlkies tou JarJar,oi Gungans sa laos einai poli kaloi k oraioi warriors.Ta Ewoks den me peithoun gia maxites,gia xaritomena,gia tpt.Ego ena leo:An eixame Tarpals anti gia JarJar den tha legan kouventa toulaxiston oi misoi apo tous bashers tou Ep1.

    Kai egw symfwnw me ton Tarpals ktl. Eidika ta plana pou exei tous Gungans na pane gia tin maxi i otan amynontai me tis aspides tous, einai mia xara! Alla o Jar Jar petagetai apo dw kai ekei skouzontas kai kanontas gkafes... Na skefteis, eixa protinei paliotera, anti gia ton Jar Jar san comic relief, as eixe...ton Watto na akolouthei tous irwes mas (min rwtas senariaka pws tha to ekane kapoios ayto)! San to Iago sto Alladin, na eirwneyetai kai na koroideyei tous pantes alla kata bathos "kali kardia". Fantazesai ton Watto sto Jedi Council na koroideyei tous Jedi epeidi den mporoune na diabasoune tis skepseis tou i na tou kanoun mind trick? [face_laugh]



    Oxi oti me xalaei,apla sto Ep5 prosopika me endiaferei poli perissotero i Monomaxia apo ton aspro kittaritidiko polo tis Carrie Fisher na trexei apo do k apo kei.

    Meta to digital restoration, den fainetai katholou kyttaritida. Ematha oti o McCallum kalese 2 eidikous apo tin Estee Lauder gia na boithisoun me tis gnwseis tous...



    Eixame 3oro alla o Lucas me tin gkomena tou ton Burtt frontisan gi'afto.Fisika einai to kalitero.Alla gia sena epeidi oi alles 2 sucked,eno gia mena apla epeidi tis kseperase.

    Etsi megale, xwsta! Oi alles 2 den "sucked", apla itane katwteres twn prosdokiwn mou, enw to ROTS, estw kai san stand-alone tainia, einai akribws oti perimena, merikes fores POLY PERISSOTERA ap' oti perimena kai me elaxista lathi, sta opoia ligo poly symfwneis kai esy.



    Na oneirevetai oti thelei.Kala kanie,to aksizei k me to parapano.Gia mena to oraio tha teleiosei tin teleftaia fora pou tha do to RotS sinema,den teleiose me tpt to 1983.

    Den to ennoousa etsi gia to "telos tou oneirou", ennousa tin 1i fasi aytou pou oramatistike o Lucas. Eimai "sigouros" oti en etei 197* oramatizotane:

    "O Anakin me ton Obi-Wan polemane se enan planiti lavas. Ksafniika, ena mikro harvester droid erxetai kai tous koitaei kai feygei. Gyrname stin maxi... Twra oi 2 maxites stekontai stin akri enos gkremou, kaneis den exei to panw xeri. Kafnika, pisw apo ton Anakin emfanizetai o Jar Jar, ena plasma me podia elefanta kai aytia elefanta kai rygxos papias. O Obi-Wan ton blepei na skybei pisw apo ton Anakin, o opoios exei tyflwthei apo tin diafainomeni niki tou kai den exei parei xampari. O Obi-Wan kanei ena Force push, o Anakin skontaftei panw ston Jar Jar kai peftei stin lava. O Obi-Wan xtypaei ton Jar Jar ston wmo kai tou leei "Thank you my friend. Withoiut you, I couldn't have succeed on this!" Ah, ****, giati na min exw tin texnologia na to deiksw ayto?" :p



    Well,isos oxi 10lepto,alla to miasoro tou RotS to efages.Ase pos ksero tora,megali istoria.Ekanes mia olokliri maxi sto Ep3 xoris Anakin/Ben mazi k den edeikses tin filia tous os isoi,kati pou exoume pleon sta prota 20 lepta tou RotS.Se kana 20lepto tha xoristoun pali oi Obi/Anakin k o Anakin tha pesei stin Dark Side.Pote skopeveis na deiksei tin filia tous?Min peis sto Ep2,giati tonisa os isoi.Ara,pes mou pos mpaloneis kati tetoia pragmata pou sou ksefevgoun gia na dikaiologiseis ena rimadi fotospathaki.

    Koita, milisa gia tin periptwsi pou imoun o Lucas kai egrafa OLH tin PT apo tin arxi, den tha ypirxe tetoio problima (na deiksw tin filia tous, ktl). H filia tous tha fainotane apo to EpI, ayta pou eides sto prwto 20 tou ROTS tha itane pantou sto EpII. Ase, min me bazeis se peirasmo...



    Epeisodio 1:podraces,katharotati epeidiksi Dinamis,asxeto an to vriskeis paidiko.

    (Me yfos Obi-Wan otan leei to "Your new Empire?") "KATHAROTATH"??? Oute to Force theme den paiz
     
  22. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kris:

    [blockquote]Backflip sto Ep. 4??? Kapoios na ton aforisei![/blockquote]

    Ki emena mazi. :p Kali ein' opws einai, alla ton Lucas ton trwei to cheraki tou kai ama deis kana' psifiako Alec Guiness na kanei kati [link=http://khdnwltkd.wellington.net.nz/photos/grayrtk.gif]tetoio[/link] ston Vader, min ksafniasteis. ;) [face_dancing]

    Gianakin

    [blockquote]Nai, katalavainw tin logiki. Apla den mou aresei i idea tou intercut. Mono sto Ep. 2 den me peirakse k' sto Ep. 3 (kala sto 3 ti na me peiraksei, eleos!).[/blockquote]

    Egw sto Duel sto III elega: "Ade teleiwnete re paidia me tis malakies sas na apolafsoume ligo Palpy!!! ;) [face_dancing] [face_devil] AFTO THA PEI MONDAZ, ochi me Gungans ([face_sick])!

    [blockquote]Kinimatografika milontas k' ochi se themata goustou, to Ep. 4 borei aneta na charaktiristei ws kaki tainia. Aneta. Mono ta teleftaia 40 lepta aksizoun senariaka. Alla ochi, tote o Lucas itan 34 k' den eiche ksemwrathei. Vre den pa' na... oloi tous leo 'gw...[/blockquote]

    Chaneis to noima edw... Des ena serial tou '30 kai krine to me vasi afto, me vasi afto pou prospathei na einai. An to pareis etsi, ola tha ta vgaleis kakes tainies. Vale to eidos tous kai ton skopo tous mesa, kai tha deis oti einai aristourgimata. Ama den thes na valeis to nostalgia factor kai na ta peraseis sto apyrovlito tou klassikou aristourgimatos, tote O.K. paw paso, alla krine ta swsta...

    [blockquote]Gia to Ep. 5 kleisame, gia to 6 twra. Einai poly synaisthimatiko, alla mono logw tis mousikis. Oi kiniseis fainondai stimmenes k pseftikes, epipedou Irakli/Xena. O Luke synecheia perimenei ton Vader na ton chtipisei. Eleos. Twra, tha evaza kapoia plana fysika pou tha allazan tis chtipita pseftikes kiniseis. Dystichws ta plana afta einai ta kondina. Oso gia tin I.L.M., min se akousw na mou peis oti i etaireia pou ekane ton L.o.t.R. tha ta kataferne kalytera, dioti i WETA pige stin I.L.M. gia voitheia. Pigaine des to Terminator 3, sto telos, ligo prin pethanei o Scwarzenegger pou leei: "I'm Back", einai para poly gamato Animation Charaktira. O,ti prepei. Kai einai I.L.M..I I.L.M. einai i kalyteri etaireia afti ti stigmi, apla tin echeis bouchtisei logo Prequels.[/blockquote]

    Chwris na echw dei to Terminator 3, tha symphwnisw. :cool: Sto Epeisodio 2 des Kris, pou o Kyle Rowling echei tin fatsa tou Christofer Lee. Psiloathlio, alla den to katalavaineis etsi grigora pou kounietai. Apo tote i technologia echei ektoksefthei ston tomea, kai se dyo chronakia oute pou tha katalavaineis ton C.G.I. ap' ton pragmatiko. :cool: Ade na tin strwsei ligo tin machi sto 6, na kanei kai tipota ston Jabba kai ta Ewoks, kai ston Aftokratora ekei pou stravokollisane ston Mac Diarmid to makiyaz, kai na valei kai ligo fws na vgazoun ta fwtoksifi ekei pera sto skotadi, eleos! [face_frustrated]

    A, ki ef' oson sto epomeno mondaz den tha 'nai anakatemenos o Burtt, tha doume tis tainies opws tous aksizei! :cool: [face_dancing]
     
  23. Master-Mythos

    Master-Mythos Jedi Youngling

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    Jun 2, 2005
    Katarxin xara sto kouragio olon pou stelnun tetia mikra posts :p

    Tha po oti ine poli eukolo na katafeugi kapios stin ironia gia na dinamoni tous isxirismus tou.
    Tha iperaspisto ton tipa sto ikonidio (den trelenomai) legodas oti i PT ithele ena xiumoristiko xaraktira. An ebaze enan sto stil C3po, OLOI tha elegan oti o Lucas adigrafi ton euato tou. Tora, Poor Jar-Jar gets flamed by everyone [face_laugh] !! Ala ine poli diskolo na dimiurgisis xiumoristikus xaraktires oi opioi aresoun se olous. Kai epita....pou emfanizete o Jar-Jar?? Sto Phantom Menace, apadate esis. Simfono! Kai leo oti to Phantom Menace einai by far i pio fotini tainia pou exo di. Den ksero an ine o Naboo i o Tatooine, alla ola fainodai extremely bright. o Jar-Jar kolaei se enan tetio kosmo. Kai as min ksexname kapioi ton latrepsan (apla den kseroun akoma na xirizode pc [face_dancing] ). Only jokking, ala ti na po, se poli kosmo arese!!
    Tora bebaios, gia na to sindiaso kai me to OT-PT thema....gelio ton anebazun, perito kai xazo ton katevazoun klp klp.
    Kai eksigumai me ena ironiko stil kanodas ton dikigoro tou diavolou.....
    AN INE GELIOS KAI UNREALISTIC O JAR-JAR,O JABBA THE HUT ti ine????
    As imaste orthologistes.....o "Godfather" tou Starwars ine ena terastio gliodes skouliki to opio den mpori na kounithi kai ta xeria tou profanos den ftanoun oute gia na skoupisun ton kolo tou.Ine anikanos gia otidipote, tou trexoun ta salia kai kimate orthios(profanos i kurasi apo tis drastiriotites ine apisteuti). Imaste sovaroi, iparxi tetios xaraktiras kai malista ine kai arximafiozos?? [face_clown]
    Min me pareksigite, den exo kanena provlima me ton en logo xaraktira.
    Apla thelo na dikso oti me tin idia ironia kai kakia mporis na mionis kati ite ine PT ite OT, ite legete JarJar ite Jabba.
     
  24. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    ^ Symphwnoi, alla o Jabba POUTHENA den kanei kati pou skopo echei na vgalei hioumor kai na einai toso andiaisthitika apokroustiko opws afta pou kanei o Jar-Jar. P.ch.? TRWEI MIA BLASTERIA TO YPOZYGIO TOU KI AFTOS APOGEIWNETAI GIA NA PROSGEIWTHEI KARTOONISTIKA STO KANONI ENOS TANK!!! O Jabba trwei ena kalamari kai kanei: "Ooooo", petaei ena nuna sto keno kai chaskogelaei otan skotwnondai oi anypakoiou sklavoi tou (twn opoiwn douleia einai kai na tou skoupizoune ton kwlo parepiptwndws ;) [face_sick]). Egw den diafwnw me ton schediasmo tou Jar-Jar (isws moiazei poly me papia kai that's all, kata t' alla O.K.), oute kan me ton tropo omilias. Diafwnw me to chidaio Amerikaniariko Kartounistiko midenikou epipedou hioumor pou perivalei ton charactira. P.ch.? Pataw skata, ena eopee klanei brosta mou kai krataw tin myti mou legondas: "Pee yousa!", horopidaw kratwndas deka adikeimena kai molis vrethw ektos planou akougetai: "Bam, Crash, Croush, Ouaaaaaaaa, dounk!" , pyrovolaw droids kata lathos me to podi mou k.t.l.. [face_pig]
     
  25. gianakin

    gianakin Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Nov 29, 2004
    Ki emena mazi. tongue Kali ein' opws einai, alla ton Lucas ton trwei to cheraki tou kai ama deis kana' psifiako Alec Guiness na kanei kati tetoio ston Vader, min ksafniasteis.

    Etsi mpravo!Gia na sinithizoume siga siga ti nea epoxi!


    Egw sto Duel sto III elega: "Ade teleiwnete re paidia me tis malakies sas na apolafsoume ligo Palpy!!!AFTO THA PEI MONDAZ, ochi me Gungans

    Mono eleos kollaei edo.ELEOS!


    Chaneis to noima edw... Des ena serial tou '30 kai krine to me vasi afto, me vasi afto pou prospathei na einai. An to pareis etsi, ola tha ta vgaleis kakes tainies. Vale to eidos tous kai ton skopo tous mesa, kai tha deis oti einai aristourgimata. Ama den thes na valeis to nostalgia factor kai na ta peraseis sto apyrovlito tou klassikou aristourgimatos, tote O.K. paw paso, alla krine ta swsta...

    Exeis dikio fisika,alla prospatho na kano ena point edo,gi'afto k ekana afto to extreme paradeigma.Prospatho na po oti to exoun sto apirovlito dioti einai i arxi k oxi san tainia.Kat'eme,kammia alli apo tis SW tainies den exei kanei tosi koilia osi to Ep4,fisika epitides,alla koilia nevertheless.


    Chwris na echw dei to Terminator 3, tha symphwnisw. Sto Epeisodio 2 des Kris, pou o Kyle Rowling echei tin fatsa tou Christofer Lee. Psiloathlio, alla den to katalavaineis etsi grigora pou kounietai. Apo tote i technologia echei ektoksefthei ston tomea, kai se dyo chronakia oute pou tha katalavaineis ton C.G.I. ap' ton pragmatiko. Ade na tin strwsei ligo tin machi sto 6, na kanei kai tipota ston Jabba kai ta Ewoks, kai ston Aftokratora ekei pou stravokollisane ston Mac Diarmid to makiyaz, kai na valei kai ligo fws na vgazoun ta fwtoksifi ekei pera sto skotadi, eleos!

    Kala se afto to thema exei na pesei allagi...Asta na pan!Na deis pou an kanei tin allagi, o kosmos tha to katalavei apo tin idia tin allagi,k oxi apo to CGI.Ti na leme,ta grafika sto Ep3 itan pera gia pera alithina.Deite mono ton Dooku sto Ep3 k tha katalavete.Gia ta Ewoks den mporei na kanei k para polla,ektos apo to na ferei ton Burtt na kanei ti douleia tou ;) se aftes tis skines.


    Tha iperaspisto ton tipa sto ikonidio (den trelenomai) legodas oti i PT ithele ena xiumoristiko xaraktira. An ebaze enan sto stil C3po, OLOI tha elegan oti o Lucas adigrafi ton euato tou. Tora, Poor Jar-Jar gets flamed by everyone!! Ala ine poli diskolo na dimiurgisis xiumoristikus xaraktires oi opioi aresoun se olous. Kai epita....pou emfanizete o Jar-Jar?? Sto Phantom Menace, apadate esis. Simfono! Kai leo oti to Phantom Menace einai by far i pio fotini tainia pou exo di. Den ksero an ine o Naboo i o Tatooine, alla ola fainodai extremely bright. o Jar-Jar kolaei se enan tetio kosmo. Kai as min ksexname kapioi ton latrepsan (apla den kseroun akoma na xirizode pc dancing ). Only jokking, ala ti na po, se poli kosmo arese!!

    Etsi bravo_Oi palioi tin exoun dei Evraioi,oti aftoi einai o periousios laos tou Theiou k oti den prepei na travixtei k to neo koino,pou kalos i kakos goustarei tetoia.Kai min kaneis plaka,oi mikroteroi molis arxisoun k mpainoun sta forums tha sou po ego ti tha paroun oi perifanoi palioi!


    Tora bebaios, gia na to sindiaso kai me to OT-PT thema....gelio ton anebazun, perito kai xazo ton katevazoun klp klp.
    Kai eksigumai me ena ironiko stil kanodas ton dikigoro tou diavolou.....
    AN INE GELIOS KAI UNREALISTIC O JAR-JAR,O JABBA THE HUT ti ine????
    As imaste orthologistes.....o "Godfather" tou Starwars ine ena terastio gliodes skouliki to opio den mpori na kounithi kai ta xeria tou profanos den ftanoun oute gia na skoupisun ton kolo tou.Ine anikanos gia otidipote, tou trexoun ta salia kai kimate orthios(profanos i kurasi apo tis drastiriotites ine apisteuti). Imaste sovaroi, iparxi tetios xaraktiras kai malista ine kai arximafiozos??


    Na se filiso palikari mou!Ta idia kala k kaka krivontai piso apo kati tetoies omoies-alla oxi idies- periptoseis metaksi ton 2 Trilogion!


    Min me pareksigite, den exo kanena provlima me ton en logo xaraktira.
    Apla thelo na dikso oti me tin idia ironia kai kakia mp
     
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