Question regarding Thrawn Trilogy, Prequels, clonetroopers, etc

in the thrawn trilogy it mentions that the empire had gotten ahold of some spaarti cylinders in order to create clone troopers. it also mentions [to my best understanding] that these were used in the clone wars [so it kinda made zahn's stories coincidentally go with the prequels in a way]. to my understanding, this implied that the empire hadn't used clone troopers up until that time [with the exception of the clone wars period]. i assumed this because luke could feel something different and kind of "unnatural" in the force when he confronted the clone troopers, much different that what he felt during previous encounters with stormtroopers.

now, from what i'm gathering from the prequels [and mostly ep3] is that the empire will continue to use clones and that the storm troopers we see in the OT are infact clones. but this idea clashes with the story presented in the thrawn trilogy.

my question: do you think the EU will find a way to work around this? maybe stating that in between ep3 and ep4 clones were gradually done away with and an army of storm troopers was acquired by means of a draft, volunteers, etc?

perhaps timothy zahn will cover this once his two outbound flight books come out?

 

However, it is official that the Kamino cloning facilities were devastated by the Mandalorians not too long before the end of the Clone Wars. Not enough to take them offline completely, but enough to make the early Empire look into regular human troops as well.

 

We can only hope.

 

However, it is official that the Kamino cloning facilities were devastated by the Mandalorians not too long before the end of the Clone Wars. Not enough to take them offline completely, but enough to make the early Empire look into regular human troops as well.

what story is this from? sounds interesting.

 

Most of the stormtroopers in the OT are recruits. We don't know what exactly stopped the Empire from using clones. Probably this will be covered in RotS or one of the post RotS books. There were a few clones by the time of post RotJ EU, but not very many. I remember a part in one of the X-wing books where one of the pilost, probably Corran, was wondering weather the person they just shot down was a Clone.

 

That information comes from The History of the Mandalorians article in SW Insider #80.

but it's from an actual story right?

 

Or the Empire couldn't produce enough clones fast enough for the military's needs and so had to take in recruits.

 

From a story (-ies) yet-to-be.


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i thought the theory was that clone troopers made elsewhere than Kamino (Khomm etc) - speed grown - went insane and the fleet had to destroy them, tieing to the Thrawn trilogy ideas. A second Clone War, as it was called.[hr][/blockquote][/b]
...Oh, the pre-'02 memories seeing those words ("Second Clone War") brings back.

Back before LFL officially declared that there was but One Single True Clone War (contrary to the original Timothy Zahn texts and sources like [i]The Farlander Papers[/i]), the conclusion/"fix" that some of us ([i]moi[/i], [b]2ndQuest[/b], [b]The Late Valiento[/b], [b]The Estimable Sturm Antilles[/b], etc) reached was that there were *two* Clone Wars...one prior to TPM, and the AOTC/ROTS war.

Another monkeywrench tossed into the tank was John Ostrander's [i]"[The Stark Hyperspace War] was the last major galactic conflict prior to the Battle of Naboo"[/i]-bit. Long story short, most of those conflicting nabobs have since gotten aligned, tightened, and otherwise brought up to spec, and the galaxy's a somewhat harmonious place once again.

Uhm...except for all the clones and wars and whatnot.

 

I have a theory about why the clones were considered insane- [snip]

Well, sounds crazy but it's the only way I can think of to tie Trawns trilogy with the PT.

Or maybe the clones started to go crazy trough a long period of time fter the CW, there condition worsening as yeah year passed and the Empire gradually replaced them.

EDIT- Very good theory, but it strays too much into the spoiler arena, so I'm gonna remove it.

 

I thought the reason the clones went insane was something to do with the force, wasn't that why Thrawn when he started up his cloning program he has those ysalrimi creatures placed all around the facility to creat a force free bubble to ensure they had a stable growing environment.

 

Here's part of the official answer, taken from Pablo Hidalgo in Insider 76:

If the stormtroopers are supposed to be clone troopers, why do most of them have different sizes and voices in Star Wars: A New Hope?
The realities of filmmaking in the 1970s and 1980s dictated the differences in stormtrooper voices and sizes in the original trilogy.
Completely computer-generated, exactly identical were not possible until a few decades down the road.
However, there is also an in-universe explanation, provided by none other than George Lucas himself. During the production of Episode III, Lucas told crewmembers that the stormtroopers seen in Episode IV are - in the story world - made from multiple sources. That is, they're not all Jango clones. By that time in the saga, other clone hosts have been selected.
Lucas intimated that the selection porcess has become more political than strategic in some cases - a highly placed officer's cousin might be selected over a more capable specimen, for example. This politicization results in less-than-idea candidates, which could explain some of the embarrassing marksmanship witnessed in the original trilogy.
In addition to multiple clone hosts, stormtrooper ranks also include conscripted soldiers and academy graduates, as has been chronicled in the Expanded Universe for many years now.

My personal favorite explanation is that the last major clone facilities were destroyed somehow around 10-15 BBY, meaning that there are very few clones in the service by the time Luke would be in a position where he'd have access to that sort of knowledge in the Rebellion. He doesn't know, so it still fits okay with TTT, and it allows us to keep all these beautiful trooper stories.

 

I believe that the differences between the Kaminoan and Spaarti Cloning techniques are very, very interesting! How does the Khomm techniques factors into this?

 

Khomm Cloning is more or less like Kaminoan cloning, using slow grown clones. without growth accelleration. the "parents" educated their child clone since baby stage and let it grow up at normal speed.

during the clone wars kaminoans supervised Khomm cloning for military purposes.