Recommendations for the best Star Trek film?

My Rankings:

Undiscovered Country
Wrath of Khan
Search for Spock
Generations
Voyage Home
First Contact
Nemesis
Motion Picture
Final Frontier
Insurrection

 

Just watch the 2nd one. Really.
Just the second one.
Then stop.
You're done.

You don't need any more, and nothing since is worth worrying about unless you're a totally into it treckie--the kind that wears pointy prosthetic ears all day and sends his/her kids to school in ST uniforms.

 

Ignore this grinch. Watch them all and make up your own mind.

Although the best TNG film in the bunch IMO is First Contact.

 

The best Original Cast film was Wrath of Khan. The best TNG film was First Contact.

Between the two, I'd say Wrath of Khan was the better film. But not by a whole lot.

 

I whole-heartedly resemble and approve those comments.
If you aren't prepared to watch them all & make up your own mind, however, stick with the 2nd one.

I still get a giggle out of the story of the woman who went to watch Trek 2 every night when it was originally in the theaters only to walk out as soon as Kirk got down to engineering so she wouldn't have to watch that scene.

I shudder to think about the emotional damage done by the parents who did force their children to dress in Trek uniforms when they went to school. (Yes, if you haven't seen the movie "Trekkies", there actually are parents who did that.)

 

The three minutes of space is, I assume, an overture.

 

Is it actually in space (stars, etc) now? In the original cut, it was a totally black screen. Just Goldsmith's theme played and then WHAMO, you got the Main theme and "Paramount Pictures" in that wussy powder blue. At least with a starfield. there's something to look at.

 

I've always thought that overtures were created for the big premiere a film might have, and that it was a signal for everybody to take their seats and to give a few more minutes for the ushers to seat last minutes arrivals.

 

True, overtures and intermission are not needed for home viewing but films with built-in intermissions do made it easy to split the movie between two video tapes or DVDs. I think that's one reason why they don't edit them out. The best opition would be to take the overture/intermission out but give the viewer the choice to reinsert them back in via branching technology.

Anyway getting back to Star Trek I have seen the last two films but haven't posted my reviews yet. I'll try to get them up as soon as possible.

 

My rankings of the Star Trek films:

1. II: The Wrath of Khan
2. VI: The Undiscovered Country
3. III: The Search for Spock
4. X: Nemesis
5. VII: Generations
6. IV: The Voyage Home
7. The Motion Picture
8. IX: Insurrection
9. V: The Final Frontier
10. VIII: First Contact

 

You don't like First Contact? Blasphemy!

 

The fact that he rated IX, V and I higher is just an insult to all Trekkies IMO.

 

Now, now, I'm sure he has his reasons...and First Contact can be extremely clunky at times.

If anything, it proves just how broad the disparity is in reference to Star Trek films...

THEY ALL CAN BE SEEN AS JUNK!

 

star trek film rankings

1. II Wrath of Kahn
2. VIII First Contact
3. VI Undiscovered Country
4. IV The Voyage home
5. V The Final Frontier
6. VII Generations
7. III The search for Spock
8. IX Insurrection
9. X Nemesis
10. I The motion picture

 

No insult intended! I just find First Contact very cheesy and goofy, poorly made and lacking verissimilitude. It comes across like an especially silly episode of TNG. Insurrection, on the other hand, has a meatier story IMO; anything to do with Data I personally find very intriguing. As to Final Frontier, I agree it's awful, but at least it has Kirk, Bones and Spock in it -- which for a child of the 70s such as myself makes it preferable to an equally bad NG film. This is purely subjective opinion from a sci-fi/fantasy fan who is not a trekkie.

 

You know what the worst part of all the films after Generations is?

It's the Enterprise.

They never take an opportunity to really explore anything that might be unique or new when it comes to the new ship...it might as well be any of the dozens of ships in the fleet...the decks, the holodecks, etc...none of this is unusual anymore...The Enterprises always had something unique about them.

As such...the E is cold and unlikeable ship beyond it's basic aesthetics...it's obvious from First Contact through Nemesis that the creative teams were more convinced the series' focus was with the characters, not the ship...ala the original cast films and the success of Voyage Home.

Except the TNG crew were never as beloved as the Original crew...even if the show they were on was. Picard/Data can't hold a candle to Kirk/Spock...and I say this being a hater of the TOS. As a result, the TNG movies needed those aspects of wonder in the films...instead we got some cheese action and an alien home ship which, honestly, no body cares about, despite Patrick Stewart's best efforts to make you think Picard loved E as much as D.

Anyone else think the E is reason #1 they felt they could move Riker to his own boat? Losing the D was like losing a crew member...and the E has been an empty shell replacement.

I truly hope with this new film, Abrams takes this into account and make the reinvented (as I'm sure it will be) Enterprise and integral "character" in the tale...not just a setting.

 

Well spoken, Sir!
The TNG films would have been slightly better served with the D throughout the films. If they wanted to scrap it they could have done that at the end of Nemesis, as a result of the Reman battle; "Damaged beyond repair". So the film ends with a sleek new ship and Picard walking to his new bridge and there you go. Anyway, here is my list

1) Wrath of Khan
2) Undiscovered Country
3) Search for Spock
4) The Motion Picture
5) First Contact
6) Nemesis
7) The Voyage Home
8) Generations
9) Insurrection
10) The Final Frontier

 

Didn't they torpedo the D because they wanted the stage space for Voyager sets...and thus why the E is basically reused Voyager sets?

It was a decision of production efficiency...not serving the story.

 

Don't get me wrong...as i originally posted, the ship had aesthetic appeal. It's sharp.

But that doesn't change that it's soulless.

It would be like trading in a car you loved and drove to death for a flashy hotrod...definitely an upgrade...but until you've broken it in, it won't feel like your car (and more over, if you break in a hotrod, you're nuts)

The E just never had that "whatever it is" that made losing the 01 and the D so sad in their films. They blow up the E, I wouldn't even blink...I half expected them to blow it up in Nemesis. I might actually have been disappointed they didn't. Of course I haven't seen nemesis since it was in theaters. What year did that drop? 02?