Full Series Resistance 1.21 - No Escape Part 2 (Season Finale!!) - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Another similarity to the end of Rebels:

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A hyperspace jump to an unknown destination near the end of the episode

I wonder if season 2 will see them landing on another ocean planet.

The Colossus is similar to Atlantis from Stargate - large structure on the surface of an ocean planet, which is also a ship that can fly through hyperspace.

 

I don't think anything is saltier than Crait.

 

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I mostly doubt it, but a small part of me feels like wherever they randomly hyperspace jump to is going to be where Ezra and Thrawn are stranded.

 

This would be the only destination that would really make me care about Season 2.

We know that Leia calls for help in TLJ, and the Colossus is out there somewhere not responding so it has to go somewhere where transmissions can't reach otherwise why wouldn't they come to assist? It would really paint them in a bad light.

 

Or they’re not able to jump for another reason...

 

Or they're still in hyperspace.

 

Please no. I would no doubt love to see what becomes of the two, but I also really hope it doesn't take 30+ years to find them.

 

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True, no Tam in Rebels. Though we had few episodes where Ezra was being seduced by Maul before that whole thing was dropped. So lets wait and see for how long will Tam be with the FO. Perhaps she'll defect within an episode or two. And we did have Kallus in Rebels. He was sort of a Tam, just from the other side

And I have no issues with Colossus being able to stay submerged for few decades. However the fact its shields are so powerful after not being used for two decades stretches believability for me bit too much.

 

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Can't say I couldn't predict what Tam was going to do based on what happened in the last few episodes though it was still a great episode and the scene with Yeager and Kaz trying to convince Tam was very well done. I also liked that id did address Kaz's feelings to seeing his homeworld destroyed, I really wanted him to mention it to Tam though it will probably happen next season. It was also the episode where everybody is coming back for the final battle to save the day and I loved it. The backgrounds during the final battle were gorgeous, kudos to the staff. Of course, we have to continue the tradition of killing our original bad guys but I guess it made sense this time? The ending also makes sense considering what happened in TLJ, plus, they wouldn't be restrained by whatever happens in IX to tell new stories but also still referencing/teasing some events, especially after the movie comes out.

8/10

 

Question 1:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes it was.

We don't have any actual data on exoplanetary ocean salinity yet as far as I know (I think we're waiting for a couple of next generation space telescopes before we're able to detect stuff like that, I'm not sure if the JWST even has that fine level of spectroscopic fidelity), but every watery world in our solar system has salty water. Even the water detected on Mars is salty. Potentially much of the water held in the Moon's regolith is in the form of hydrates (inorganic salts containing chemically bound water molecules).

We might just live in a salty solar system, but I think it's more likely that our conditions are not especially rare. The fact that we don't have an example of a freshwater ocean world in our solar system leads me to suspect that they must be pretty rare. I realise our sample size isn't ideal however.

Question 2:
I've mostly watched this season in SD so I might have missed some details, but I don't recall seeing any barnacles, seaweed or the like attached to the hull of Colossus. This means one of three things:
1: The animators could not be bothered with a detail that only I vaguely care about.
2: Colossus has some kind of force field preventing physical contact (which would also explain away the lack of corrosion from saltwater) or is made of some kind of non-reactive and non-interacting material that plants and animals just cannot or do not touch for scifi reasons.
3: Colossus has been meticulously cleaned and maintained internally and externally. We did see that weird gourd headed cleaner dude wiping floors, does he have an equivalent who works the outside of the station?

 

8/10

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- This didn't need to be a two parter. Lots of fat that could have been cut out.

- Good for not taking the easy way out with Tam.

- Apparently there were rumors that Kylo Ren would show up - glad that didn't happen. Hope the show's need to shoehorn in such explicit tie-ins is behind them now.

- Tam joining the FO is the best thing the show's got going now. That combined with Neeko getting his hyperspace programming lessons out of the "it's just like crop dusting" manual makes for a good dual hook into season 2. Still not convinced this show's premise has enough meat for a 4 season run but right now, there's gas in the tank..

 

Kaz probably assumes that Tam saw the events unfold just as he did.

 

Last Jedi haters?.

 

More specifically, r/SaltierThanCrait. It's a subreddit pretty much dedicated to hating The Last Jedi and anything other new Star Wars media.

 

Gave it a 9/10. Some really good high-flying action. Directly following the previous episode, I really wasn't buying Kaz' reaction to the Hoznian system being blown up. It just seemed kind of dry; ho-hum. I don't know, I feel like the scenes were strong emotions in this series leave much to be desired. But overall I was satisfied with the action sequences in this episode. The FO troops are as bad shots as the Empire stormtroopers were; but at this point who's even paying attention anymore? So I guess we wait until the Fall to find out exactly where the Colossus winds up after the hyperspace jump.

 

I'll admit it was a little strange to have Kaz have the same reaction and questions/confirmation of Hosinan Prime happen again just mere seconds after the end of the last episode but that is more due to it being a two-parter and no recaps and an episodic format. I guess Tora asked Kaz to confirm what just happened. But the episode looked great and had a nice build, especially The Colossus' slow crawl to space, I honestly thought it would "flip" and fly like a Star Destroyer in the end but it looks like "upwards" is the direction it will remain in transit. Great action and Tam going off with the First Order definitely makes her character more interesting in Season 2. Also cool twist at the end that they could end up at D'Qar for the end of TFA, start of Last Jedi or (more likely) they end up somewhere else in space.

I thought maybe the troopers would survive as it looked like they were swimming but they had the fish monster straight up eat them so I guess not.

Were the lights on Kaz's gloves a new thing, already there, or only when his commlink was on? I started to get vaguely obsessed with it, hahahah.

 

Those lights on Kaz's gloves have been there since the very beginning.

 

This is more than possible... Also they could get Ahsoka back in the conflict .

 

No thank you. Don’t need her in this show as well.

 

Tbh even I wouldn't necessarily want the Resistance characters to get involved with Ezra, Thrawn, Ahsoka, and Sabine; because that would probably mean the whole season would be focused on the rescue and stray too far away from the subject of the Resistance. I'd prefer the Ezra story to be told in an entirely separate venue.

 

So I've watched the entire season, and they waited for the finale to live up to the shows name. I struggled through the bulk of the episodes, but actually enjoyed the finale, though it felt like too little - too late. I feel the build-up and character development, such as it was, wasn't fulfilling outside of maybe the Tam arc. Had they brought the series to Hosnian Prime, even briefly, it would have had a bigger impact for me. I was constantly longing for more Leia, Poe, etc...

 

Showing Hosnian Prime in the flesh would've been interesting. It would actually put a face to those who died (similar to what might have been if we saw Alderaan on the big screen for more than the two minutes a the end of ROTS). We feel bad for Kaz just as we felt bad for Leia, but from a distance it's difficult to get a connection to the overall population of the planets. As far as longing for more Leia and Poe; I'd imagine the voice actors (especially Oscar Isaac's case) had other obligations and couldn't commit to the overall season.

 

One of the Resistance writers/ creators hinted that they didn’t have the assets to do that. So it may have been a money thing.