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Full Series Resistance 2.07 - The Relic Raiders - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Alowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Nov 16, 2019.

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  1. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Treasure Lover of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Episode 2.07!!
    The Relic Raiders
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  2. JH24

    JH24 Jedi Knight star 1

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    After seeing the teaser for this episode I realized for the first time how much this style looks like Zelda's "Breath of the Wild."

    Hope this will be a good episode.
     
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  3. Jedi Master Scorpio

    Jedi Master Scorpio Star Wars Television star 4 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, I do have some catching up to do.
     
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  4. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    The introduction of Jedi and Sith lore is a welcome addition, adding a significant dose of legitimacy to the show. The episode itself... turned out to be more of a setup and introduction rather than a meaningful story in itself.

    Oh, and the way the kids were forced into the mission was borderline meta ("Yeah, we're using a blatant plot device to get them onto the planet as well as another chance to remind you that the show's main protagonist is an affable knob. Wink, wink.") The little gag about "The Lesson" at the end was more successful at this.

    Having said that, it's good to see how each "faction" aboard the Collusus is getting its turn in the limelight as the episodes progress.

    Once past that the initial adrenaline brought about by the ToTA-style imagery, the value of this episode will determined more by its followup than what happened in it. A provisional 7/10 for now.

     
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  5. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    The return of Kaz the Spaz...very annoying...just when he was seeming competent he can't do anything right.
    Kel and Eila...as @TheCloneWarsForever pointed out above...forced using idiot kids who don't listen to push along the story. Would not have minded if one or both were maimed or killed. They would deserve it for running into a dangerous situation.
    Are the FO Raiders a new thing??
     
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  6. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    This...was not a good one.
     
  7. zackm

    zackm Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Meh episode. But I liked the FO Raider Troopers.
     
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  8. ScorpioGirl

    ScorpioGirl Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well, this episode wasn’t a complete filler. Kaz, Torra, and Freya go for a supply run and Kel and Eila tag along. They happen across a sith temple and rescued a... an anthropologist? Archeologist? Scavenger? I’m not sure what to call Mika. But anyway, here’s what we got:

    -We learn that Kaz never believed in the Force or the Jedi, but at the end, he seems conflicted about it.

    -Apparently most of the Jedi temples are built over sith temples (and the Jedi were suprised the sith wanted revenge?)

    -Kaz is such a dad in this. I love it!

    -There was a Jedi/Sith temple on Tehar. Maybe that’s why Kylo Ren destroyed the planet.

    -Speaking of Kylo, apparently, he was looking for sith artefacts or relics, and that Sith weapon thingy and the temple was destroyed because of Kaz. So, at least Kaz prevented the First Order from getting that weapon...accidentally.

    -Yeager assuring his boyfriend that everything will be fine

    -Well, at least they got some supplies, right?

    I was hoping this would have a reference to Palpatine and his return in TROS, like Kaz accidentally setting something off or turning something on that would accelerate Palpy’s return, but oh well.
     
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  9. TheAdmiral

    TheAdmiral Force Ghost star 4

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    The episode was alright. Also was that a T3 utility droid?
     
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  10. JH24

    JH24 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Overall I enjoyed the episode.

    - Kaz was his clumsy self again, but it can be excused somewhat as Sith Temples are death traps anyway.
    - Kel and Eila were a bit annoying in this episode.
    - First half was a bit weak, but the second half of the episode picked up when the FO raiders appeared.
    - Mika seems like an interesting character. I wonder if this means the Force is going to play a role later on in the season.
    - I liked the ending scene with Mika explaining about the Force. I thought it was a nice touch how the camera zoomed in on Kaz's expression. It felt like a kind of foreshadowing.

    7.5/10
     
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  11. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    It just felt half-baked. Like they ran out of money for the underground Sith temple and so it felt like a cheap funhouse. And the character that was down there just...didn’t work for me. It felt like an oddly perfunctory story.
     
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  12. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    Agreed. I always praise how well this show can balance tone, but honestly this felt like it wanted to be low-stakes just walking around traps, and also ethereal and it ended up accomplishing neither. Like artifact plot that is a fun adventure? Sign me up. Focus on the creepiness of the Sith and how out of their depth our characters are on force stuff? Great. You can even do both, but this story didn't seem like it had a plan for how to do either. And yeah Mika Grey was just unlikable. I think they wanted a sorta Yoda figure, but harsh instead of goofy, but her deeper complexity was only in the very last line of the ep.

    The raiders look damn cool though, and the sith symbol from all the way back in TOTJ being there was a really really really neat touch. I do think we found the one type of story that I will say Rebels did better than Resistance.

    I hope they get back to what they do best, showcasing the complexities of how fascist regimes gain influence on individual levels. Give me more Tam dangit
     
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  13. dick rodgers

    dick rodgers Jedi Master star 4

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    do you by chance have any idea who writes this show or who the show runner is?? it isnt Filoni is it? i guess i could google but im lazy.
     
  14. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    The lead is Brandon Auman, who actually wrote this ep. He worked on the 2012 TMNT show. They have gotten a ton of EMH, The Batman, and TMNT 2012 writers thus far
     
  15. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    Sorry for the DP but I wanted to make a correction, it is Justin Ridge who is the supervising director of Resistance, and who I was thinking of. Auman did write this ep though
     
  16. TheYodaPagoda

    TheYodaPagoda Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I was sort of annoyed at the kids stowing away on the mission, then not staying on the ship, then not following instructions. One of them deserved a gruesome death to show the other not to fool around in strange places related to The Force without grownups present.

    It sure is good to see them venturing into Force-related places, as they're not users, or in Kaz's case, believers.

    The Sith Power Source that is used as pretty much a Deus-Ex-Machina to rescue our heroes, what was its original purpose?
     
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  17. JH24

    JH24 Jedi Knight star 1

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    I'm sure at this point Kaz's dad must have pulled some strings to get his son to skip certain classes in his training to become a fighter pilot. I assume you would at least be taught how to defend yourself, but Kaz doesn't know how to fight, at all. He just crumbles if someone corners him.

    I said in my previous post I found the kids a little annoying, but I do like how protective Kel is of his sister.
     
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  18. Guidman

    Guidman Skywalker Saga Mod and Trivia/Book Host star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Ok episode. I liked the visuals and design of the temple and Raider Troopers. Kaz somewhat reverting back to the season 1 version wasn't the best though. I didn't like the character of Mika or her just yelling the whole episode. Hopefully next week, we get some plot with Tam and the FO in it.
     
  19. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Treasure Lover of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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  20. indydefense

    indydefense Jedi Knight star 3

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    Interesting tidbit from SW.com:

    In the script, Mika originally specified that the relic was a very powerful weapon that belonged to an ancient Sith Lord. Like other Sith artifacts seen in Star Wars stories, it has a triangular shape, which symbolizes a pinnacle of power above a lowly base. Sith artifacts, ancient writing, and Kylo Ren’s pursuit of such secrets all factor upcoming Star Wars storytelling…

    https://www.starwars.com/news/buckets-list-extra-the-relic-raider-star-wars-resistance
     
  21. DarthRamRod

    DarthRamRod Jedi Knight star 2

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    Dr Aphra and the Galaxy's Edge comic have been really big on the force artifacts
     
  22. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 6

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    Gave it a 7/10. Not a bad episode; still somewhat filler (does anyone remember this young character on Resistance known as Tam? I wonder what ever happened to her since she got caught up with the FO). The Jedi/Sith Lore in the form of the temple and artifact was a nice touch. Someone does need to explain something to me though; if the FO Raiders flew into the system, how did they not see and recognize the Colossus? You'd have thought at this point they'd have wanted posters or something of that ilk to alert patrols all over the galaxy.
     
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  23. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Skywalker Saga/Fun&Games Mod star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    7/10 - it was fine, I liked the Sith temple design and just the fact that it dealt with the Force a bit.....still want to get back to Tam's story.
     
  24. DarthRamRod

    DarthRamRod Jedi Knight star 2

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    Just pulling this out my butt, but I'm guessing the Raider troops are only concerned with finding artifacts and are basically black ops that's agenda is separate from conquering the galaxy.
     
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  25. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 6

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    Understandable, but you'd assume at the very least they'd be responsible for alerting the FO on the whereabouts of a Resistance-affiliated ship.