Amph Here's Some Money, Go See A Swap Thing: DCU/Elseworlds Discussion

John David Washington could be fun as Supes.

 

Sure. I haven’t watched the show, but he looks like he’d be a wonderful Clark (and a fine Supes.)

 

This made my day! Now just give us the full scene

 

is he gonna show us the scene on his cell phone too

 

Is he going to read this thread and think, “well okay then!”

 

I hope so!

 

DC seems really obsessed with turning the Riddler into Jigsaw because otherwise we might realize a guy dressing up in a bat costume to fight crimes committed by a guy who leaves clues on purpose is a little silly. I feel like it's been their go-to move for the last decade.

 

I think it's just that Riddler fell into an awkward spot where any good gimmick he could have is occupied by a different villain the writers tend to prefer (Ra's is arguably the more compelling mastermind character for most plotlines since he has a bunch of cool assassins, Joker is highly profitable, and thus blessed for permanent overexposure by the marketing department the better deranged prankster), so at some point someone suggested "I dunno, Jigsaw?" and everyone just rolled with it because they were trying to edge it up.

 

Yeah, I dunno... I kinda see there being a place for a Jigsaw-like Riddler character... someone who devised ingenious death traps (with a proper solution to escape of course, if people are smart enough) to punish people for their crime. Basically like the other side of the coin of Batman (who... punishes people for their crime, except brings them in for arrest and trial vs. killing them -- his antithesis, except in Snyder-dom) vs. the mirror image of Batman (The Joker).

All depends on execution, one supposes...

 

This isn't strictly movie related, but Bruce Timm, J.J. Abrams, and Matt Reeves are collaborating on a new animated series called Batman: Caped Crusader.

https://www.ign.com/articles/batman-caped-crusader-bruce-timm-jj-abrams-matt-reeves-hbo-max



EDIT: Also a new series called My Adventures with Superman, which has an art style I find absolutely adorable.
https://collider.com/my-adventures-with-superman-animated-series-hbo-max-cartoon-network/

 

Timm has me excited, he's great.

Abrams doing Batman though...oof

 

I'm as in to everything about the pitch for this series as I am put off by J. J. Abrams being listed second on that Batman series. Poetry, to be sure.

 

Honestly, I am far more excited for My Adventures with Superman on the sole basis of look how freaking adorable that art is oh my god it's delightful.

 

Exactly. This will be the first theatrical appearance of the Riddler since this...
Riddler GIFs | Tenor

So, yeah, I'm in favor of a Jigsaw-like Riddler character, not just for the sake of the Riddle's big screen redemption, but it will force Batman to be a detective.

I don't think it would a good idea to have a "bait & switch" villain because of the Iron Man 3 debacle. Additionally, I really didn't like that it was Talia all along in The Dark Knight Rises, as it took away from Bane's character and motivation. I also didn't like it very much in Batman Begins where Ken Watanabe was the faux the Ra's al Ghul.

And let's no forget that Catwoman is in The Batman movie too, so there's already a good amount of antagonists in the film.

 

Agreed. I think Abrams is usually very successful when he's helping to guide somebody else's vision, and occasionally offering some notes here and there, then when he has both hands on the wheel so to speak.

 

You both realize he was executive producer on Lost, right? There is, I think, pretty good cause for skepticism on this until we see the end result.