ST Rey Skywalker/Daisy Ridley Discussion Thread

I never said it worked well, I said it's the only way I can call the ST part of the Saga...

 

Nah, Daisy has always genuinely seemed to enjoy TROS. Every interview she's given has expressed how satisfied she was with the ending for Rey. I think she genuinely likes it. She hasn't been shy before about things she didn't like. And truthfully, I have no problem with Rey taking the name Skywalker in *theory*, but I don't think it was built up properly because of Luke and Rey's relationship in TLJ. TROS tried to fix it but eh. Rey should have taken Organa but no one would know that name.

 

What about reyB8

 

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lol...

I said without mentioning Kylo

sure she isn't...they are brother and sister Skywalker (of the Force), clearly.

what else?

double lol...his arc is more engaging than any other, as we have daily proof on these boards.

Her story would only work if she was the real Skywalker....since they made her a Palpatine having her being adoptee by dead force ghost by expelling true Skywalkers out of the way (not just Ben, but Anakin too) is unbelievable...it would much better be if she embraced her Palpatine name and legacy but chose to go against it in spite of it....wearing it (the name of her forefathers, and parents) like a constant reminder of what she never will be....
plus if she went on and on about her parents and how she loved them she could have chosen her mother's or father's (whoever wasn't the child of Palps) last name to honor them...instead she discarded the memory of them, who sacrificed for her, and replaced it for the popular Skywalkers...meh

 

I think you're confusing engaging with enraging.

 

you can laugh all you want

but who the protagonist is, is not a subjective thing, it doesn’t matter if Rey’s story doesn’t work for you, that doesn’t mean you can just pick another character and say they are the protagonist

fine if you find Kylo’s story or whatever more compelling but claiming Kylo is the protagonist is just simply not true

 

I liked the ST. But i kind wish they didn't shoe horn Kylo to the second main character and he steals Rey's screen time. Rey is the hero and protagonist, it should be Finn who's with her and not Kylo. I love TLJ, but one key mistake was not futher developing Finn and reveal he was force sensetive and then JJ could have had Finn a jedi in training by Luke or Leia with Rey.

 

I mean, funnily enough, two canon sources do refer to them as twins in the force, so... if the shoe fits.

If we're choosing who the protagonist is based simply on their blood lineage, surely it's Leia? She's a Skywalker, she's the leader of the Resistance, she's the one who trains Rey, she's the one who disrupts Palpatine's plans by bringing her son back. It's her lightsaber that Rey uses to bring Palpatine down. It's her force ghost that Rey sees at the end. If we're just choosing protagonists based on them being a Skywalker... Leia wins the ST.

 

How did he "steal" Rey's screentime? The amount of screentime he has in the ST is fairly consistent - 19 minutes in TFA, 15:15 minutes in TLJ, and 20 minutes in TROS. It's the smallest of any main character's screentime by a decent margin, except Poe in TFA, who was never intended to be a main character in that film and was originally intended to die until they changed their mind at the last minute.

It's well under half of Rey's screentime in each movie, with Rey's screentime in TROS shooting up to almost a full hour compared to 43 minutes in TFA and 30:15 minutes in TLJ.

It's also broadly consistent with Vader's screentime in TESB and ROTJ - which was 13 and 14 minutes, respectively (ANH it was only 9, but that's different for very obvious reasons given the complexity of the character had not solidified, and Tarkin was also compting for time)

He's the literal main antagonist, the notion that the antagonist interacting with the hero is somehow 'theft' is baffling to me. The movie needs to spend time developing the antagonist, or else you have no drama. You just have the heroes quipping at each other.

What does Rey being the hero have to do with who she spends her screentime with? I don't see how this is relevant. No one said Luke needed to spend time with Han or Leia in TESB because he's the hero.

 

If you say that again someone might accuse Disney and SW of promoting incest, lol.

I am disputing her claim on being the main/most important character in a Skywalker story on the grounds of her not being a Skywalker. She simply isn't. If they made her one than she would unequivocally be.
The unanswered question still remains, why wasn't she.

 

Just because a character is the most important to an audience member, it doesn't make that character the most important to the movie. It's not like this is a subjective thing... The protagonist role is a literary function. And Rey is a Skywalker, so even if that was the requirement, she meets that threshold.

 

She meets the requirement about as much as Jyn Erso meets that requirement. but being a skywalker isn't about being good and righteous. if that was the case Anakin Skywalker wouldn't have turned. its a family name. a connection of DNA, ancestry and heritage.

 

Being a Skywalker is kind of a curse when you really think about it. Rey should have been like "I'm Rey anything but Skywalker."

 

I think her taking the name skywalker one just one option they had. because there was those leaks that said that originally she was gonna see her actual ghost parents on tatooine when she turned round. whether that was just a memory like they did with han who knows, but that was said to have changed afterwards to Luke and Leia. so thats probably why it feels so tacked on.

Although it would have been funny for her to turn around see her real ghost parents there and then turn back and be like I'm Rey Skywalker... and her parents are just like *GASP!*.

Presumably though if her real ghost parents had been there, the skywalker bit wouldn't have been.

 

That would've been apart of TLJ re-do I posted, where Rey, revealed in this to be Luke's daughter, where Luke, in feeling like being a Skywalker brings nothing but pain and death to his family, and Rey rejects being one based on that, among other things.

 

LFL is the franchise that had Leia kissing her twin brother, it's not new to SW.

She is a Skywalker by the end of TROS, though. That's the entire point of the "Rise of Skywalker" title. She takes on their legacy and becomes the Skywalker of the ST, which she already was in all but name/blood before.

 

Honestly, I didn't think giving her the last name of Skywalker was earned, given just how little time she spent with Luke and the nature of their relationship during that time. You could say Leia was a Skywalker, but she never truly went by the name, and she grew up as royalty as an Organa on Alderaan.

Throughout the saga, there's a particular emphasis on the Skywalker family when it comes to relation by blood, so that's probably why it doesn't resonate with people. Darth Vader was a lot less likely to care about Luke if he was just some random kid who took on the Skywalker name.

But there's a lot about Rey throughout the three films that doesn't feel earned.

 

I agree her and Luke's relationship was handled badly (especially in TLJ), so Rey Skywalker falls flat, and if Rey was real, she probably would've taken Organa and not Skywalker. But the point does remain, the story the ST was trying to tell is "some things are stronger than blood" and that seems to be a key thing with Rey's story in particular. Was it done well? Absolutely not, IMO. But it doesn't change the fact she's the protagonist of these last three films and she ends the films as the Skywalker legacy.

 

Oh, sure. The deuteragonist dies anyway.