ST Rey Skywalker/Daisy Ridley Discussion Thread

@Ender_and_Bean You thought she was turned on by torture in TFA and that's "vanilla" to you?
If Rey is vanilla yogurt, Luke must be plain yogurt. How boring that his struggle was based on a near universally recognizable human connection instead of a debasing disregard of self respect sprinkled with a healthy dose of masochism. How boring that Luke cares about his friends while Rey dgas about hers.

Rey doesn't deserve to be called the Luke of the ST. She's an empty copy written by people who don't even have a basic understanding of what made Luke a hero. And to add insult to injury, they just slapped the Skywalker name on her without it being earned by the story.

 

Because they had several things they needed and wanted to do.

1. Conclude her story with Ben.
2. Have the friends hugging party like in ROTJ.
3. Conclude the skywalkers in the skywalker saga,

It meant there was no time to stop and reflect. its just jumping to next conclusion.

 

I didn’t think she was in TFA. I wasn’t sure back then what was at work between the two of them. Back when Reylo was banned as a discussion topic though I was one of those asking if Lucasfilm might be moving in that direction because the arguments
made seemed compelling enough to consider it. TLJ took that to the next level and allowed us to then reflect back and connect the dots more. You keep trying to make this claim over and over again in some attempt to discredit me or something even though the canon story literally ended with her fearing she might succumb and end up on the Sith throne alongside Kylo Ren and showed her kissing Ben Solo.

For the millionth time, some anti-Reylo fans made light of her being drawn to Kylo Ren/Ben Solo as 50 Shades of Rey and I asked if it’s possible that she was changed by her dark side torture and if it unlocked her dark side within and that she found the dark side exciting on some level that she then fought to suppress. It was one of many theories and one of many reasons I listed for why she made some of the choices she did back at a time when all we had to go on was our theories and the tale hadn’t concluded yet.

Regarding Luke... for me he WAS plain yogurt in ANH and at the start of TESB until he went to Dagobah and showed more layers, faced Vader, showed he’d rather die and jumped, struggled with the dark side and fought it off at the end of ROTJ and showed power in non-violence and not becoming what Sidious wanted. His improvement as a character of depth continued in the sequel trilogy for me.

 

Either she played the scene in TFA as attraction or she played it as horrified, terrified, and in pain. Which was it?

 

I'm the opposite. I wanted to like her, I did like her in TFA, and Daisy was really good. But the character ended up being a mess. They had no firm plan of where to gov with her clearly and the stuff with Kylo was awful.

She ended up being less of a character and more of a collection of reddit-bait, what a waste of potential.

 

Rey would be the biggest disappointment of the trilogy for me. Coming out of TFA, she was instantly among my favourite Star Wars characters. They did a fantastic job getting her across in a minimalist way. But the subsequent movies really let me down, to the point she wouldn't be on the list unless I were to separate the character I enjoyed from the spineless one pining for the guy who abducted her, tortured her, killed her father figure, put her first friend in a coma, slaughtered a school, committed an unknown number of massacres and just spends two and a half movies being horrible towards her. There's nothing for me to emotionally get behind because she doesn't act in an understandable way. And then they gave her some of the least substantial family conflict in a Star Wars movie. I love found family stuff, but they didn't do a very good job selling this one. All in all, I just find myself disappointed. What gets me to revisit movies most of the time are the characters, which is exactly why I don't see myself coming back to the latter two sequel trilogy films for a long, long time. I can't think of another instance where a movie character I loved was fumbled this badly, it's really deflating. If you had told me in 2015 that I would have no interest in seeing the character again, I wouldn't have believed you, but here we are.

 

I loved her in TFA. Too much, judging by the lowkey pro-abuse tattoo I'm stuck with now Definitely a waste of potential, she could have been a role model worthy of Leia's legacy.

 

I don't think she needed to be a role model. she just needed to be a character. even a flawed one at that.

The whole role model thing is what makes creatives very protective over how they portray a character, and i already think some of that happened in the ST. and what the result was is a character who had the support of everyone in the whole saga behind her, just because its her, and she was also kinda OP. it resulted in someone who they were trying to hard to make special, and that results in a character that is unrelatable.

 

I want a flawed character, not a “role model” and I’m a glad I got her.

Tired of the double standard for little girls needing a role model and boys can just like a villain because he is cool.

 

Lol. Please tell me that you actually got a Rey tattoo before this story even reached its second act. This didn’t really happen, did it?

 

I knew I couldn’t stay away from from this site! Ha.

At the beginning of TFA we are introduced to two characters, one that orders a massacre and one that refuses to carry out the massacre. At the end of the ST Rey our hero ends up kissing the character that ordered the massacre.

Never in a million years did I think the powers that be would do that to Rey. What a massive disappointment.

 

I got a Rey tattoo when Rey was an awesome ******* character in TFA. Yeah, it was stupid to expect LFL to not completely ruin her character in the next 2 movies. Good for you that you were able to forsee the upcoming character assassination.
@Ender_and_Bean Did you answer my question and I just missed it?

 

And it had.

And then he rediscovered the Ben Solo that Rey saw inside who Kylo Ren had tried to kill but couldn’t and something far more amazing than anything seen in Star Wars before happened. The reverse of Anakin’s fall as it related to Padme. The discovery of true light side potential from the power of discovering selfless love.

 

Rey had already met literally all of that in Finn.

 

The heart wants what it wants. In TFA she kissed him too on the forehead after his bravery and told him thank you, friend. She didn’t want to hold his hand either at first but later did. She & Finn are very close and he’s a great friend but they spent more than a year together and obviously those sparks just weren’t felt between them.

Meanwhile, when people see your tattoo they will be reminded of who she does want connect with.


At least until Luke breaks up the act. Women all over the world have fallen hard for men who had serious issues. In some cases they inspired those men to be more and become part of the solution. I think it’s awesome that you will be able to remind others of that. Even if you wish you could take it back now. It’s all a part of life and the chances we take. On Tattoos or romantic partners.

 

Dude, not cool.

 

If we're talking about "flaws," can we talk about how many times Rey cries? Like I get it, there is nothing wrong with crying, but holy **** it comes across as stereotypical weak, emotional female signaling.

Eta: and thanks for that reminder about what kind of person you are.

 

Rey discovering a nice side to the guy that attacked her, tortured her and Poe, sliced up Finn, killed Han Solo and A TON of other people should not give Rey justification for overlooking all the horrible things Kylo has done.

Also Kylo and Ben are the same person. Rey liking Ben means she’s also ignoring that Ben is Kylo the murderer or she’s fine with that which is just as bad.

How are Finn and Poe supposed to react to finding out that Rey kissed Ben and had romantic feelings for him? Are they supposed to be okay with that?

They shouldn’t because Finn and Poe handwaving away that Rey has kissy romantic feelings for the guy that inflicted so much personal pain on them would make them look stupid too...and yet after seeing how the ST ended up I could easily see a future movie where Finn and Poe lightheartedly make light of Rey’s feelings for Kylo Ben. “Boy Rey you really know how to pick ‘em ha ha ha” is exactly the kind of thing I could see in a new Disney Star Wars film.

 

I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.

 

Aren't Rey and Kylo in TROS referencing when he reaches out his hand with an offer to join him, though?

"I offered you my hand. You wanted to take it."
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"I did want to take your hand. Ben's hand."

 

Yeah, we don't want a white girl to willingly hold a poc's hand!