ST Rey Skywalker/Daisy Ridley Discussion Thread

This is how I see it. Like Sméagol and Gollum in a way. Kylo Ren by way of the dark side tried to kill the personality of Ben Solo for good but Ben Solo was harder to kill than he thought and love was more powerful than the dark side.

 

Quite, and it is possibly why in all instances, including Gollum, that the wicked element is ultimately a pitiable character.

 

Maybe that is one way of describing it?

 

I see the addictive properties as well but I see the dark side influence as so powerful that it can have an impact on the mind like the ring of power did Sméagol as he became Gollum.

 

I actually have the opposite opinion. I thought TFA Rey was a safe, two dimensional character. She was an intentionally likable blank slate.

I liked her ok, but I wasnt floored by her. I was initially annoyed by how OP she was w/her powers at first, but that doesn't bother anymore, in retrospect .

I think TLJ made her a more complicated and less conventionally safe character. I dont think she lost her spine or became a prop to Kylo. The story always showed how she was right, he was wrong & she was stronger than him. She just ended up w/a more unconventional relationship w/him.

 

Shipping herself to him, was her version of Luke walking up to one of Vader's patrols and surrendering.

 

I really enjoyed Rey as a character. There are decisions made with her character in TROS that I don't agree with at all, but I did enjoy her as a character throughout the ST.

 

Indeed. Rey spent very little time with Ben, really one day, and that was apparently enough for her to develop positive feelings for him in face off all the negative treatment she received from him.

So why did she fall for him? Because of the Force I guess?

 

Rey's mom actress, Jodie Comer

 

Do you generally think the “female perspective” ought to be written 100% by men?

 

Rey's wardrobe was trash. Resistance should have done better.

 

Rey spent about a week tops with all the characters in the first two movies.

TROS takes place a year later, so she has had a year to form friendships with the Resistance and Leia. She does not reconnect with Ben until a year later and then their interactions take place in what... a couple days? Realistically speaking, she has only had about a weeks worth of interactions with Kylo/Ben. It is why her non-reaction to his death, her joining her friends in a hug and looking happy at the end isn't unbelievable to me.

I wish she had been the daughter of Palpatine and not the father. Villianelle would surely be the daughter of Palpatine, I'm just sayin'.

 

She was really good in Killing Eve. Played a great psychopath.

 

It's not like Kylo's on the ground, to be walked up to. He's in space. And she doesn't want to put the Falcon in his hands.

How else exactly was she going to get on board his ship, fast, without putting the Falcon at risk?

 

TLJ briefly and TROS fully revealed that the dark side within her was far more powerful than we knew of in TFA. That’s the underestimated aspect in all of this. Like Frodo, who feels the weight of the ring and its influence, he truly gets what Gollum has become because he’s having similar issues inside that he’s fighting off. Rey repressed a lot. Her subconscious dark side bonded with Kylo Ren and her conscious light side bonded only with Ben Solo buried within.

It has psychodrama elements to it and they’ve both been inside the other’s minds and share the Dyad, and later, the weight of what their grandfather’s were and their struggles with what that might mean about them. It’s a different dynamic in Star Wars but one that many of us found fascinating and TROS took it to another level.

 

Not to mention the comparison is the worst. Luke surrendered to his father because his connection to his father was leading him to the rebellion. Rey surrendered to a monster stranger she had no connection to because she decided maybe he’d turn good if she put her life in his hands.

 

A central part of the film is about their connection

 

Didn't she have a vision of him killing Snoke (and fighting alongside her against Snoke's bodyguards) if she went there - and that's why she did - failing to realise that killing Snoke and his bodyguards doesn't mean turning away from the dark side?

 

The "vision". The infamous vision. After TLJ, Rey's entire story arc, and to some extent the whole ST now hinges on the vision. The problem is that Johnson didn't give it the focus needed to feel compelling, and failed to correctly parallel it to its OT/PT counterparts with Luke and Anakin. With Luke on Dagobah, his visions were either visually enacted or discussed at length with Yoda. There was time to introduce the concept to the audience, describe exactly what he was "seeing," and explain why he felt he needed to obey it even against Yoda's counsel. And we get similar, carefully laid out treatment with Anakin in AOTC/ROTS.

Rey doesn't get any of that. She just runs off. The way the scene plays out, it's designed to make her look like a teenage girl sneaking a boy into her room to have sex, until Dad comes in to break it up. It's more an act of rebellion against Luke than divination. The scene just doesn't work in the context of the saga.

 

I dislike reylo. But I love both Rey and Ben and Ben being turned. The reason I like Ben turning is it feeds the idea of anyone being capable of redemption no matter what they may do, and that really works for me. I also love that Rey fears herself above all else, since I find that extremely relatable. But Reylo bothers me. It helps that she didn't cry like crazy after he died, that would have hurt my veiw of Rey. Finn and Rey need more screen time in thecreation of a new Jedi order.