ST Rian Johnson (Director Of TLJ) Discussion Thread

sad boi

 

Darth Sad Boi would actually have been a pretty good Star Wars villain name.

 

anakinfan edit: language

Spoiler

 

The Boiz of Sad

 

The Knights of not-appearing-in-this-film.

 

They looked awesome in TFA. But I just don't find giant toy-esque melee weapons in a galaxy of laser guns and swords, threatening or logical

The guy in the front looks like he stole that thing from a pizza parlor.

End of the day, they're over-designed and under-used.

 

I do hate being completely right.

UKS

 

I must have missed the moment when you were proven completely right.

 

Nothing has been confirmed or rumored, only a guess and how many times has his movie been cancelled, lol.

 

Barely no one cares about a RJ directed SW movie. After TLJ, it would be silly letting him touch the franchise again.

 

Thats just silly.

 

By the time RJ is done making Knives Out movies, or any movie her wants to do next, many of the ST LFL leaders that he worked with - outside of the ones that actually left LFL and joined him at his own studio - will be gone. LFL has to start thinking what comes next for the movies. They need something big. Non-divisive, and will hook fans (and general audiences) into going. Something safe. That's not RJ.

So at the very least you need to look past the next 2-7 years, and more like 7-10 year time frame for any possibility at a RJ movie. And by then, SW could look very different and moved on entirely. Hell, they could be making EP 10-12 by that point.

 

Something safe is absolutely the wrong way to jumpstart a new era of Star Wars movies. Audiences and critics are primed to sniff out another safe attempt after the uber-safeness of TFA. They need to surprise us with the next entry.

 

They're not going to take those kinds of risks right now. They'll probably going to go with safe director, and safe story.

That's not to say it'll be a safe-retread story, like redoing ANH all over again, just something that might have equity in the franchise already, something the fandom knows about, and can immediately be excited about, like say the Old Republic or something. Certainly not whatever KK-RJ wanted to do with "explore another galaxy that we never saw before" type of thing.

Rogue Squadron was shelved for scheduling conflicts, but not even that movie was going to cut it. Something like what F&F are doing with Mando/Boba/Ahsoka, which already has building equity and excitement. That kind of 'safe' thing.

 

I think the overall issue with the fans who enjoyed TLJ is they want that to be Star Wars. And from a business standpoint, a path that led to roughly half your fanbase being not just upset, but feeling personally insulted, is not the way to go.

I think the safe thing to do would be to devise some sort of film trilogy for RJ that remains largely unconnected from the rest of the saga (let him tell some weird off shoot story that takes place between ROTJ and TFA) and see if there's any buzz about it and, more importantly, see what the box office is like. But don't let the story be some over-impactful "this is gonna change the way you see Star Wars" nonsense and just let it be a side story.

TLJ fans can easily have more of what they liked without it largely effecting everything else and then Disney can rake in the cash from that section of the fanbase as well.

I think the main issue with the RJ section of the fandom is they felt like RJ's vision should have become THE VISION at LFL and that's simply never going to happen.

 

Disney could do a SW version of the "Amazing Stories " tv show from the 80s. Where each week it's just another random weird SW tale. Give that to directors, test them out. RJ could do something really fun in that environment.

 

To the RJ fans in here. Is this something that would interest you; RJ directing television episodes of something? Or is it a whole trilogy or bust?

 

I'm not an RJ fan, but I think people need to get over movies vs tv thing. Yes...movies can be grander due to the screen size and theatre going experience, like for instance with Dune, but tv isn't lesser these days in terms of quality, scale, importance to culture.

 

The safe thing for Disney to do is what they have - effectively kicked RJ to the curb.

Agreed.

 

I think the RJ fandom might be beyond that. I thinks it more of a RJ'S VISION NEEDS TO BE THE WAY LFL GOES or BUST situation. Keep in mind, I am in here asking for clarification.

Yeah, but D/LFL knows they can make some money off of a RJ movie. The dude does have fans.

 

For me as a RJ fan, i be dissapointed by him not doing a trilogy but i be ok with it if does tv shows or standalone movies for star wars. Like RJ have visited the set of Mandalorian and has shown interested in directing one.

 

D/LFL doesn't care about just some money though. Disney makes their money of merchandise and licensing far more than box office - even before the pandemic. TLJ performed poorly in that area.

Many factors against RJ ever having another SW project but anything is possible.

 

Would he be up for directing someone else's story though?