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Discussion in 'Literature' started by PimpBacca, Mar 22, 2021.

  1. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Force Ghost star 6

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    @Sinrebirth @Sauron_18

    HOLY MOLY! This is based off of Lucas old ideas were Jedi were like Emperors bodyguards!
     
  2. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think the note about this being based on an "alternate history" of the Jedi vs. Sith conflict is enough to conclude this is definitely non-canon. The Canonicity Rule of Thumb probably also applies here: if Lucasfilm (or in this case Del Rey) will not provide a direct yes or no answer to the "is it canon?" question, the answer is "no."

    Still looks fascinating, though. Like the Mandalorian and westerns, it looks like this project is all about celebrating another of Star Wars' major influences and I am entirely on board.
     
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  3. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    Wacky:

     
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  4. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Meh.....

    I’m not really a big fan of another non-canon universe being created.

    I would much prefer if we were getting an Old Republic, or even Pre-Republic setting. Instead time/money is being wasted on something that has no impact upon the Jedi and Sith history.

    If it had to be non-canon, I would have preferred Star Wars Visions and Ronin to be in the Legends timeline.
     
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  5. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The whole idea was that the people making the cartoons didn't have to worry about continuity. Making it part of the old continuity would be just as restricting as making it canon, if not more so.
     
  6. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Definitely more so knowing Legends!
     
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  7. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So how do we One Canon this? @Sinrebirth given there is now a third continuity or several more with Visions that are unlike Infinities set in various eras and probably some are placeable if not going too out there.

    But I love the novel idea using Lucas old OT conepts and transferring them to the distant past and the first great Jedi shism. Makes me wonder if one can use asian Xendor and Arden Lyn in those ideas...

    unless it is more recent set than we think if tied to the Twins episode that features X-Wings and Stardestroyers! then we may either imply it is new generation x-wings and destroyers and place it right after Legacy!!! That'd be fun! Kinda bridging Legacy to The Star Wars, eh?

    Though, if the fighters and cruisers are just general design language one might place it in the past still as even TOR and KOTOR had stardestroyer esque vessels. Maybe post TOR or early NSW shism?
     
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  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm quietly confident that I can handle anything. wink
     
  9. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    You should know better by now Cole
     
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  10. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    if we need too theres always the explanation of the storm trooper armour being based on the armour that they found from the troopers that splendid ap zapp
     
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  11. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I’m still trying to find my jaw from when I dropped it earlier. I’m SO excited for this.
     
  12. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Force Ghost star 6

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    Sadly the canonicty of it is up in the air (Not that i mind since Visions looks epic) so I am curious if this will be part of whatever "The Main Lore" of Star Wars will go for when it time to get something more "Official"

    Personally I hope so since I kinda like the idea of using old Lucas ideas for newer era's.
     
  13. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 3

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    I don’t know much about the studios involved, but almost any time there’s an anthology like this series at least one episode is a backdoor pilot.

    Given that The Duel already has a novel announced, I don’t think it’ll be long until a series is in production and the world of Ronin gets significant expansion. Even if it’s not canon right now (who cares?) it’ll probably get slowly integrated into continuity and become a launch point for a whole new multimedia project.
     
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  14. iFrankenstein

    iFrankenstein Jedi Padawan

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    I’d they’re publishing full AU novels now might as well dust off Escape from Dagu, the lost masterpiece everyone has been clamoring for for 20 years.
     
  15. Watcherwithin

    Watcherwithin Jedi Knight star 3

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    I don’t the care if future expanded universe projects are told to consider this canon or not. Using the Jedi warriors of the Empire from the early draft as the basis for the setting thousands of years ago and an explanation of the Sith schism is genius,
     
  16. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Force Ghost star 6

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    Well...They did say this

     
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  17. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Just give us a SW Multiverse and be done with it.
     
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  18. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They might if the essential legends stuff sells well.
     
  19. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Here's hoping.
     
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  20. Xander Vos

    Xander Vos Jedi Master star 4

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    Now that would be fascinating.
     
  21. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Wait, so The Duel is linked to Ronin?
     
  22. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Yups.


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  23. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Force Ghost star 6

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    Isn’t this de facto the case anyway? I mean apart from it not being ‘offical policy’ is there anything that’s suggests it’s not the case anyway?
     
  24. DarthInternous

    DarthInternous Editor - Del Rey Star Wars star 3 VIP

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    A what-if story implies taking an established or known plot point of a story, and deliberating telling a tale of the opposite happening. "Han Solo doesn't save Luke at The Battle of Yavin, and Vader stops him from blowing up the Death Star." is a what if story. "Qui-Gon survives the duel with Maul in TPM" is a what if story.

    Ronin is not a "what-if" story because the plot has not been designed around that sort of conceit. Original characters, original plot, original story.
     
  25. DLCV

    DLCV Jedi Knight star 1

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    This happened in SW infinities with the OT
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