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Lit Rooting for the Empire (or certain Imperials)- why?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Iron_lord, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    I'm curious as to what the most common reasons are.

    Some I can think of:

    "There's something about them I like"
    "There's something about the Rebellion (or certain Rebels) I dislike"
    "There's something about the presumed message of Star Wars I dislike"
    "I want to provoke thought and reexamination of the evidence"
    "I want to provoke outrage, for my own amusement."

    There's probably others.
     
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  2. TheYankee

    TheYankee Jedi Master star 1

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    Never found myself openly rooting for the Empire... But I did "root" for Palleon, who I liked immensely.


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  3. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    I like a few Imperials but not the Empire.
     
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  4. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    All the cool people are doing it.
     
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  5. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    Look at it this way:

    Faced with the choice of democracy...

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    ...or empire...

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    ...at least with the latter you know what you're getting. :p
     
  6. RebelJoseWales

    RebelJoseWales Jedi Master star 3

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    "There's something about them I like."

    Well, they're snappy dressers, have cool-looking armor, cooler ships, and they strive to put the filthy xenos in their place have Thrawn.

    "There's something about the Rebellion (or certain Rebels) I dislike"
    Kyp Durron, just everything about him.

    "I want to provoke outrage, for my own amusement."

    No, that's why I like Mandalorians better than Jedi would be immature.
     
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  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    So "because they're cooler"?
     
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  9. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    Star Destroyer aesthetics have a lot to do with, I'm with Hav in that respect.

    Where the likes of Thrawn are concerned, I think it's not so much the Empire per se, as a charismatic command figure people respond to. Pellaeon is similar. In both cases they are able to, by force of personality, eclipse the more disturbing elements of the Empire. Come to think of it, Vader and Fel also fit this group.

    But seriously liking the Empire outside of roleplay? Seriously arguing that a totalitarian state is ideal? That does make me feel uneasy.
     
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  10. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Sometimes it's hard to tell when Curtis Saxton's roleplaying and when he genuinely believes it:


    The battleship was carrying out a vital mission for the Emperor, transporting a seemingly unique captive being to Coruscant. This creature, known as a Teezl, had the extraordinary ability to project superluminal signals anywhere in the galaxy without reliance on the fixed hyperwave HoloNet or the expensive hyperwave transcievers mounted on large capital ships. Safe installation of the Teezl at Imperial Centre would significantly improve the coordination of the entire Imperial Starfleet.
    Sadly for science, the Navy and the Teezl species, the convoy fell under a treacherous sneak attack by rebel pilots flying modified blackmarket TIE fighters. The Teezl was killed in a direct attack, and Admiral Giel's battleship suffered heavy damage in the ensuing explosion.

    Not exactly "neutral" phrasing.
     
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  11. Zane the Reaper

    Zane the Reaper Jedi Knight star 1

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    Prequel-Era:
    [​IMG]

    That's right. Palpatine. He may be evil, but the Jedi of that era were cold, overconfident, dogmatic, and BORING. Thank you, Grandpa Palps, for getting rid of those wet rags.



    Post-ROTJ EU:
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    Thrawn. All damn day. Military genius, lover of art, possessor of badass red eyes.
     
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  12. TychoCorde

    TychoCorde Jedi Padawan star 1

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    "There's something about them I like"
    Jahan Cross is pretty awesome, and while doing his duty for Empire he still has the hero conscience
     
  13. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    Addendum to my first post:

    Democracy also brought us this:

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    Give me Palpatine over that any day. :p
     
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  14. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    I suspect Jello's would be along the lines of:

    "It's not so much rooting for the Empire (except Palpatine, Dangor, and a few others) as rooting against the Rebellion (and lists every remotely dodgy act that can be tied to Rebels).
     
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  15. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Blowing up Centerpoint brought us Abeloth. ;)
     
  16. The Loyal Imperial

    The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Because they're the legitimate government of the known galaxy?
     
  17. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Led by someone who was technically a traitor to the Republic- by way of, among other things, giving sensitive military information, such as secret Core hyperspace routes, to the Seperatists.
     
  18. fett 4

    fett 4 Force Ghost star 5

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    The PT era: Palpatine, he is just all shades of brilliance, while his competition were just a bunch of uncaring disorganised hippies in bathrobes.

    The OT era: Darth Vader nuff said

    The EU: Thrawn up to a point :)
     
  19. thesevegetables

    thesevegetables Jedi Knight star 4

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    Rulf Yage.
    Because he was really for the EMPIRE, not for the Sith. Seemed like he really cared for the Empire itself.
     
  20. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    Centerpoint didn't elect her Chief of State. :p
     
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  21. thesevegetables

    thesevegetables Jedi Knight star 4

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    Another example of why the NJO era just bugs me.
    I can't help liking Imperials more than the "Republican" Jedi in recent years because the Imperials seem to be actually SANE and REASONABLE.
     
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  22. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Haven't finished reading that series, but I remember seeing something about that on the wook. That being said, the Senate as a whole was never smart to begin with.
     
  23. TheYankee

    TheYankee Jedi Master star 1

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    I know, right? I liked that Nazi Germany government too... cause, ya know, they were legit.


    Before someone goes crazy, this is in jest.
     
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  24. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They have great hats.
     
  25. thesevegetables

    thesevegetables Jedi Knight star 4

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    I mean, seriously, though. The bad guys just look so much cooler.