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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Gruntz, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    One thing I've been considering, is if it makes sense for the Isards to have been heads of the Imperial Security Bureau after Yularen dies at Yavin, while Cronal leads Imperial Intelligence. This makes, despite descending from the four Intelligence Agencies of the Republic, Imperial Intelligence the more darker, Sith-ish branch to some extent, considering it also has the Inquisitors. It also explains why we have ImpInt making up the Church of the Dark Side as the counterweight to Isard's reign on Coruscant, despite her being their Director. Discrepancies in naming can be explained by Armand Isard being head of a unified Imperial Intelligence Community, which gets called Imperial Intelligence anyway, then after Yularen dies, him and Ysanne Isard take direct control over the ISB in particular, hence Armand also having the title of Internal Security Director.

    Meanwhile the ImpInt surveillance ship over in Rebels fits extremely well with Cronal/Blackhole being able to tap into communications galaxy-wide.
     
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  2. comradepitrovsky

    comradepitrovsky Jedi Master star 4

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    I recently watched Blade II. Chirrut also once worked with Tarkin against some Anzats, during the Republic.
     
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  3. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    A little revision of my earlier headcanon, it gets spiritual now... so, lets talk science, lol:

    As I posted all over the internet and back, "what if Celestials are actually celestial bodies, aka living planets like Zonama Sekot and its kin that ascended into the Force and left their inhabitants behind to strive to follow them to godhood, as the Sith want and the Jedi selflessy come close to as Force Ghosts.

    My focus on living planets though may have been misleading. They do exist and are quite godly compared to mortals walking their shell, but still far from true Celestial power. So if we look up into the nightsky, what celestial bodies do we actually see, moons aside? Stars, countless distant suns. Hence my altering this headcanon to this now:

    What if the stars and suns are the Celestials? Truly luminous gigantic orbs in the enteral night of the cosmos. Life- and Force-giving to all that is. Well we hadn't had the luck of a talkin Sun yet in SW (or did weird Ewoks tv show do that too ?) but entertain the thought for a moment.

    The Sith strive for godhood, ascension. Vitiate failed despite an impressive lifetime and achievements as a multiple-bodies/disembodied mighty Emperor. He reached far but never managed true ascension. His method, the sacrifice of Nathema, was one of death and sacrifice to get more power. In contrast, Plagueis and Palpatine walked in his footsteps but used a different method. They too brought death and chaos aplenty, but their goal was not ascension through death, but through life. The creation of life! They studied it, they attempted it and created monsters but managed all kinds of ways to preserve or prolong life, but not to create life itself, a truly godly domain.

    Or did they? One theory has it that the creation of the Chosen One was their fault, their success that would doom them in the end. Others posed it as a reaction to their doing, a response of the Force/Gods/etc. to thwart them. Maybe both. Where Vitiate failed, Plagueis and Palpatine succeeded, maybe not in personal ascension yet, nor in creating life out of nothing. But the life that came into being as a result of their experiments was nevertheless godly and one they could bodyhop into to get its godly powers! A dangerous path to not need personal ascension, but entrap a god and take over his body!
    Yes, what if the Chosen One, Anakin Skywalker, is not only a child of Shmi and the Force, but a child of God(s). A Son of the Suns! A Son of the (celestial) Suns, the Celestials, implanted into Shmi to be born in the flesh. Either as reaction to, or because of the Sith's experiments. Maybe the trapped god did not manifest where they wanted to and experimented on, but elsewhere in Shmi at the same time. Maybe they were involved in the pirate attack on her parents ship and her enslavement, maybe else. Maybe they didn't even realize until later the opportunity such a Chosen One brought with him for them.
    Anakin's godly power and Midichlorian level would have him grow up amongst mortals with the power of a god. But lack of training or godly teachers would result in not fully realizing that potential despite Jedi teachers training him to tap some into it. The Sith continued that teaching and deepened it, but the more machine than man Vader had to be destroyed almost so the Sith would not want to bodyhop into a broken man and body, despite his godly nature that would be their undoing. A perfect lure for the Sith and trap to destroy them from within, Vader/Anakin as the Chosen One fulfilled his destiny and kickstarted via children and grandchildren the lineage that would bring down the Sith again and finally via the Dyad that could tap more into the godly Forcepower through bridging the minds of Chosen lineage and evil lineage and redeeming both in the godly luminous light.

    Now if Suns are Celestials, luminous beings literally, revered by sun cults of Kwa, Gree, etc. many other cultures, even the ancient Sith their primordial servants, and sent forth the Son of the Suns in an egypto-christian paralell to ancient mythology, what does that make of these:

    -Ancient Sith destroyin Suns and creating supernovae?
    -The Suncrusher superweapon able to take on almost indestructible Celestials?
    -Black Holes or the dark side of Celestials and fallen "Suns"? Dark as in natural Dark Side, not evil, as they serve a function like the night or destruction does to renew and rebirth the creational light side (Mortis analogue), like Black Holes imprison Abeloth in the Maw and hold the galaxy together at the Deep Core.
    -The Black Sun logo and organisation named after a specific ancient dark Celestial?
    -Centerpoint's inner artificial micro-Sun, a celestial Superweapon powered by a mini-Celestial or artificially created Celestial clone?
    -...

    Thoughts?
     
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  4. Kadar Ordo

    Kadar Ordo Jedi Knight star 2

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    After the Clone Wars, ExGal Society got its funding cut off by the Empire for being deemed "redundant" or "unnecessary," with any extragalactic surveillance being relegated to Imperial military units under the supervision of Thrawn. By the time of the New Republic however, ExGal had received independent funding from a fundraising event hosted by a certain Asogian who claimed to have travelled to another galaxy and made it back. While many doubted his claims, ExGal were nonetheless grateful for the funds, although they couldn't help but scratch their heads at the name the Asogian gave the fundraising event. None of them knew anyone by the name of "Elliott Taylor", let alone why the name held such importance to the Asogian....
     
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  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I really like that, @Kadar Ordo.

    Also, the 1 BBY Coruscant incident involving Lucrehulks from the Star Tours was a Rebel attack on Coruscant as part of Operation Domino.
     
  6. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Sheev knew about the Maw Installation, contrary to what Daala believed.
     
  7. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Grevious admired the Jedi and perhaps even dreamed of being one before the Jedi helped the Huk.
     
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  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Outer Rim Alliance shredded itself attacking Rychel, and then retook Artorias. The Remnant offered Artorias protection and the Yuuzhan Vong left them be as they were not at war with the Remnant at the time.
     
  9. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Empire sent 7 Star Destroyers each to Chandrila, Mon Calamari and Hosnian Prime at the same time as the Battle of Endor.

    These warships came from the Kuat shipyards, due an arrogance that the Rebellion would never attack that far Coreward. Much like how Harrsk took Star Destroyers from the Coruscanti Oversector to Endor.

    That gave the Rebels a window to send a carrier to Kuat to attempt to steal frigates and cruisers.

    The Empire had only kept the Annihilator and three Star Destroyers to cover the entire Kuat Sector, and those were destroyed by the Zann Consortium when it attacks.
     
  10. The last chapter of the Fan Fiction Story of Brendon J Wahlberg the Dark Emperor is Canon to Legends i would like to think that Palpatine had one last interaction with Anakin Obi Wan and Yoda in the Netherworld of the Force after his defeat in Dark Empire
     
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  11. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    I headcanon that on the Holonet inuniverse there is a discussion board where GFFA citizens discuss their favourite inuniverse fiction which includes some Brodo Asogian written works summarized as the "THX" which stands for "The Hender Xenoscriptures". According to the author based on a mysterious real document Brodo Asogian travellers displaced to distant galaxies got their hands on from a planet called Earth detailing its longstanding true history. Chapter 1 is titled "The American Grafitti" and the final chapter is titled "THX-1138", which chronicles the story of the family that, over the course of history under many different names (Hender, Lucas, Jones, and others), would have contact with offplanet cultures, research the true esoteric history of their planet, and create a modern mythology to spread it in popculture so that generation after generation would be prepared subconsciously to survive the coming dystopian technofuture and set humanity free again.
    The Brodo Asogian authors that claim that there is some truth to their fiction claim they returned several times to that mysterious planet to collect new pieces of records to turn into their Xenoscriptures and in return traded them every time for another piece of the equally mysterious Journal of the Whills.
    Of course critics call it fake and a marketing trick. While Brodo Asogians remain tightlipped about the matter whenever inquiriy probes them, whenever people point out timeline and canonicity issues, they just shrug that it all would make sense if one had the full onecanonic picture and would be more open minded, citing equally critisized claims of Aing Ti Timetravellers and other Multiversial shenangians or supernatural encounters as one option to sort it out, yet do not reveal if they just mock their ciritcs with that remark.

    Some GFFA citizens loving the Brodo Asogian tales have begun to cosplay their favourite characters, with flanell shirts being loved for some reason and hats and other memorabilia appearing all over the holonet and markets. Some fanproducts have quality indistinguisheable form real treasures of the GFFA past, so that often one or the other ended up in a museum or next to real antiquity. Be it golden idols, a carbonite frozen whip or even an ordinary wool sweater the Mon Calamari fanbase seems to favorite.

    This is how I retcon earthly products to appear in the GFFA occasionally unaltered or starwarsified! Also why with every JotW update Earth got, some SW got altered after the Brodo Asogians saw and critizized what Earthlings had interpreted the story as. Special Editions etc. but rest assured, when they denied to give an updated JotW to Disney, for it had no Hender Tale to trade it against, Disney came up with their own version. Occasionally they'd hit a mark the JotW would have had, logically progressing the story, yet the entire image is distorted, even if close to some truths.
     
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  12. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Neat analysis, yes, generally. I believe the old WEG GalaxyNewsNets gave the date of Alderaan's destruction as 35:3:7 (day 7, 3rd month) before now. The Battle of Yavin would fall on day 8 or 9, therefore, likely. Whilst Leia, Luke, Chewie and Lando return to the medical frigate one month after Hoth, according to the old Tales of the Bounty Hunters novel.

    Rey takes at least a day to get to Ahch-to reportedly, and Endor is supposedly right around the anniversary of Yavin (or at least, that was Jason and ThrawnMcEwok's intention whilst writing the Complete Atlas) Otherwise, looks pretty on the money, to me.

    I headcanon TFA as potentially 34.5 ABY, to allow more build up time (like in Resistance, tv show) but this is partly an artifact of vague dates being given for prequel stories to it, until recently, that were also 'around 34 ABY', so it could be set earlier, easily enough.
     
  13. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Barriss joined Saw and Luthen.
     
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  14. The Self Exiled Fallen Jedi Knight Dray from the short Story of Light and Shadow of Tales of the Jedi era is Darth Sion
     
  15. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I placed those in 4250 BBY for some reason.
     
  16. Debnoli

    Debnoli Jedi Knight

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    That Tiisheraan is the mythical Space Boston.

    Major Bren Derlin is played by John Ratzenberger, who graced TV as Cliff Clavin on Cheers which is set in Boston. I always imagined him retaining his new england accent as Derlin. In the EU, it's said that his home planet is Tiisheraan

    I guess this means Migs Mayfeld is probably also a Tiisheraan native also
     
  17. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    I would like to think that those Boston Dynamics droids from TBOBF are also from Space-Boston. XD
     
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  18. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Many speculated that the Skywalkers were descended from the Sunriders, Revan, etc.
     
  19. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    And the missing link in that genealogy is Palpatine himself actually connecting both [face_whistling]
     
  20. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    id rather have the lines separate but :)
     
  21. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    In all fairness, over that much time a lot of people are probably descended from them if they left any descendants at all. Maybe even Syril from Fuel Purity.
     
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  22. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Second Sith Empire survived in the distant Outer Rim commanding Sernpidal, Belkadan and Ruuria. The True Sith Empire approached the Second Sith Empire and absorbed their warships, including the Tears of Taris battlecruiser, and had the Second Sith Empire join the Republic as an undercover mole.
     
  23. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Anakin Solo in Star by Star heroically died saving his sister's life.
    He was a hero, a warrior, a Jedi... but also suicidal. His fear that during Dark Empire the Emperor may have touched him or bodyhopped into him nagged at him ever since and he never really overcame it. Throwing himself in the line of fire and service of good to proof he is good and will remain good. This got to the point of becoming suicidal, as it finally was.

    Ikrit's prophecy of him and Tahiri being more than the sum of their parts never became true. Some say it may post mortem as he from beyond the grave and her in the living world form a Dyad still to do much good in an age where even Forceghosts stories did not end yet at death. Or some may even return somehow one day, be it via clones, bodyhopping or other methods in a post Dyadic, post Abeloth truly luminous new celestial age.
    But, what if the prophecy never meant him and Tahiri? What if the parts that would be stronger together than apart, were not mean to be them but Anakin Solo and the part of Palpatine he carried and feared within himself? A Skywalker/Solo and a Palpatine together united as One?
    If so, he never lived to find out... his maniac focus and suicidal hero complex getting the better of him, so that this destiny jumped on to others... like Kylo and Rey as a Dyad? Or would Anakin have managed to redeem the soul of Palpatine trapped within him and through their joining together as one, end the dark mark on their both families? Kinda like Tahiri became one with Riina Kwaad and they merged into something greater. The prophecy may have been about Anakin and Tahiri, but both integrating the shadow within themselves (as in the Yoda episodes with the Force Priestesses in TCW) literally and figuratively, their own shadow, as well as whoever they carry that is not their own. Be it Palpatines Horcrux... or a Vong implant. As both share the same fate and different realizations of it.

    Did Anakin redeem Palpatine by saving Jaina's life and both died together in SBS in the Light? Did Tahiri integrate Riina Kwaad thx to saved Jaina's help later on? Did thus both Anakin and Tahiri fulfill their propehcy.. and through that paralell, in death and life, remain a Dyad having both grown beyond their former selfs?
     
  24. clonegeek

    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 3

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    I always figured that Ludi was returned to her mother as a properganda move to build up support for the Empire in fixxing all the 'flaws' of the Republic.
     
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  25. Watcherwithin

    Watcherwithin Jedi Master star 4

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    She’s the right age to be one of the youngings anakin killed ...
     
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