Discussion in 'Literature' started by Gruntz, Aug 6, 2018.
Ken = Kenth is my go to there.
Lazy, I know.
So... we had Alien Invasions, Zombies, Clones, Bug infestations, droid uprisings, cyBorgs and entechment, ghosts in the machine, Shapeshifters, evil plants and biotech, supernatural entities, living planets, evil blobs, resurrections, timetravel, worlds between, within, above and below worlds, macro and microbiotic etc. all checked off...
all but one thing. We came close, but it was not the real deal.
In the past SW species had reached an advanced high point with technology indistinguishable from magic, and spiritual development allowing some remembered as Celestials, to ascend to a higher plane/into the Force. Many that did not ascend though, that once served these that did, devolved. Out of fear they intentionally devolved themselves and destroyed or burried their achievements.
Ever since then, the galaxy tried to reach that state and evolutionary step again, rediscovering what had been lost, burried, hidden or forgotten over the ages. Technologically it reached a status quo, but has rediscovered all that arcane stuff, yet not distributed it widely among the populace.
Some say the Celestials ascended to a higher dimension. Others say they ascended into the Force, or Hyperspace, or both being the same according to some even. Some claim the Force's will is them still speaking to those left behind, helping them to achieve the same balance needed to ascend. But all who seek to reach celestial power and levels failed... or became monsters like Abeloth and the Sith attempting godhood. The Ones might be ascended Celestials, or they might be different from those that disembodied joined the Force in Ascension. Maybe ascension is when and why Jedi bodies, some, not all, vanish after death.
What if after the final defeat of Abeloth, a or the Celestials return? A people meeting their god(s) scenario, would they defer? Would they not believe they are the real deal? Would the changing galaxy around them proof it though and have them face new threats and problems due to the Celestial return? And is it the Celestials returning... or the galaxy being ascended enough entire to see the Celestials again?
The reactivation of the Hypergates, Tho Yors powering up and returning to strategic positions in the galactic Leyline grid, seemingly inanimate dead worlds awakening to their worldspirits and trying to correct the abuse its inhabitants had wreaked on them. The Gree, Sharu, etc. returning to their old forms and reinstating their technology and domains. Guardians taking positions at the access points to the World between Worlds which is being prepared for reopening and use.
Massive Celestial undertakings that fly in the face of petty politics, borders and average GFFA life that has to deal with the consequences, sideeffecfs and collateral of the ancient powers reawakening. To find out why and swhat for, and if they are the enemy or a worse enemy awaits they need everyone to fight while at first most thought these entities or believed to be fake Celestials being the enemy.
In in this new ascended era, Force Ghosts will be plenty and around and assist the second coming of the Celestials. All the monsters of the previous age will return to their masters side and work towards the good against something far worse. Imagine Killiks, etc. even suddendly being on your side!
But the enemy rallies followers as well... preparing to escape their hellish dimension they had been banned into for so long... like Otherspace and other such pockets of space folded to inescapability in ancient times.
Imagine what if the rift that separated the galaxy from the Unknown Regions did not exist to keep something in there or out here... but rather to lock away only what was INSIDE the rift itself... the galaxy cut apart by folding space across it to hide away unspeakeable terrors and nemesis. But as the fold grew weaker, and one could pass in and out of the UR more frequently, so stuff could leak out or in... until the rift would vanish entire and spill its nefarious content. Like at the Kathol Rift, but on a galactic scale across the UR border.
Of course such hidden space reappearing and being re-folded into the galactic disk and plane proper would shift the galactic shape and suddendly some planets would be further apart than before obviously. Hyperlanes shifting, galactic leylines too. And the formerly distorted image of some hyperlanes and some alignments, will finally make sense now the original shape of the GFFA has been restored... geometric, symmetric... holy.
In Legends Dooku helped Qui Gon to defeat Xanatos
If Luke had a Daughter or Wife in the New Canon her Name is Nellith Skywalker
Galen Marek and his Father Kento Marek are Descendants of Arcann and Arcann is the Son of Valkorion/Tenebrae/Vitiate so in my Headcanon Galen Marek is a Descendant of Vitiate maybe thats why he is Very Powerful
Death Troopers were a direct evolution of Clone Commandos.
Imperial Commando: 501st details a set of armor issued to the Clone Commandos which description largely matches up with Death Trooper armor. CC units became DT units, supplemented overtime with TK units conscripted from normal humans.
To keep aging soldiers in the fight, DT units were subjected to the physical augmentations that would become standard for later variants on cybernetic soldiers for the Galactic Empire. They were retroactively referred to as Phase 0 Dark Troopers once Rom Mohc was able to launch the Dark Trooper program. Terror Troopers were another iteration of the Death Trooper as those units were phased out towards the midpoint of the war.
The end goal was for the Terror Troopers to serve under NK-Necrosis as part of one of the Empire's false-flag operations. This never panned out since NK-Necrosis went rogue and was largely disinterested in being a war droid.
There is no difference between a Death Trooper, a Nova Trooper, or a Shadow Trooper.
Many of the Death Troopers became Shadow Droids towards the end of the Galactic Civil War; there was no positive fate for a decommissioned Shadow Droid, save for maybe becoming a B'omarr Monk. It was largely seen as one of the worst atrocities committed by the Empire.
Fleet Admiral Kermen died at the Battle of Spirana, which was after the Battle of Kaal.
Zsinj's secession was formalised shortly after Grand Admiral Makati died.
After Kerman, the military was commanded by Advisor Golthan, who took over what was left of his forces, and then Oxtroe, who became the next Fleet Admiral. Frankly at that point the Admiralty was severely decimated, reduced to merely her and Rogriss, who succeeded her as Fleet Admiral. Admirals Trigit and Banjeer had sided with Zsinj, after all.
While the Empire definitely had 24 Star Destroyers a sector group up to the Mid Rim, from then it was more likely a Moff would command a mere 4 Star Destroyers, and not necessarily four Imperial Star Destroyers. This explains why for the majority of the Galactic Civil War stories, save for those involving strategic reserves such as Death Squadron or Task Force Vengeance, we see limited amounts of Star Destroyers.
Grand Moff Zsinj commanded the Brawl and hundred Star Destroyers of Crimson Command pre-Endor, but by the time Coruscant fell, he had assembled a secondary armada of 48 Star Destroyers - two sector groups. Those forces are the ones Solo Command fribbled at, and then the Hapans shattered.
Whiles yes Zsinj was cunning in his own right, Isard's actions meant he inherited various Imperial Advisors too and a degree of legitimacy in his own right. Baron D'Asta for example provided him key economic support, and Advisor Verpalion at Lianna. While the Dark Jedi among the Council retreated to Byss (Scarev Quest, Sa-Di, Nefta), Ars Dangor hid on Orinda. When Isard lost Coruscant, Ars declared himself Head of State and the Dark Jedi supported him. The re-establishment of the Council divided the Empire in two, but Zsinj had already won out more Imperial territory than the Council anyway.
New Celestials headcanon:
"Celestials" can refer to a variety of entities. Literally it could even mean "celestial bodies" aka living planets and ecosystems (Gaia Theory) like Zonama Sekot.
It could refer to ascended beings that became like gods or gods in the Force (Late Legends take).
But it also can mean something else which just dawned upon me after seeing MCUs Quantumania in cinema which reminded me a lot of Lucas microbiotic world with this quantum-universe.
Think up is down, large is small. Opposites are one as all is in infinitesimal scales circular and fractally holographic.
Celestials can also be "Cell-estials", microbiotic essential beings in the symbiosis of the microbiotic world's quantumverse of the Force, life and everything. And at the same time, as every being, planet, starsystem etc. is alive and part of a larger symbiosis of the Force, the fractual universe is alive and everyone a part of its symbiosis and being One. As the microbiotic world is to us, we are to the larger universe, we are its quantumverse.
Thus Cellestials can be infinitesimal small, and macrobiotic large at the same time, as it is all the same.
In Legends in the Republic Comics before the Clone Wars we see that Mace Windu uses a Blue Lightsaber but in a Story from Star Wars Tales Comic we see an Teenager or Kid Mace Windu get a Purple Crystal in my Headcanon Mace started using his Purple Crystal when he felt that the War was going to start technically the Clone Wars hadnt started until Geonosis and Mace was already using his Purple Lightsaber Crystal but maybe Mace used his Shatterpoint and he found out that something big was going to happen and used his Purple Crystal to give him Luck
Palpatine had a (shadow) hand in Zsinj’s downfall.
DarthVarkor's KOTOR 2 machinima series is my go-to answer for the canoncity of the KOTOR games.
I think its very obvious but the Equivalent of Triclops in the New Canon is Dathan its funny that in Legends Palpatine considered Triclops a failure and a failed experiment just like Palpatine did with Dathan in the New Canon when Dathan was hiding from Palpatine he used the alias name of "Ken" Sly Moore was considered as Dathan "Mother" just like with Triclops in Legends both Triclops and Dathan have a Good Heart despite being Experiments and "Descendants" of Palpatine for me Triclops was a Clone of Palpatine just like Dathan is
In Legends Vader tried to Clone Padme and Darth Maul shortly before TFU 2
Galen Marek is actually a Clone in TFU 2 but the Real Galen Marek Spirit or Force Ghost entered in that Clone Body
The equivalent of Exegol in Legends is Dromund Kaas yes Byss was the World where Palpatine Resurrected in Legends but i think Dromund Kaas was a more important Planet for the Sith just like Exegol is in the New Canon
Jaden Korr is a Descendant of Galen Marek or Revan
The equivalent of Hondo Ohnaka in Legends is Vilmarh Grahrk
Vilmarh Grahrk's droid NT sounds like Phoebe Waller-Bridge.
In the New Canon Rey Yellow Lightsaber Crystal is from Luke Lightsaber from the New Canon Comics
In Legends Ben Skywalker had a Daughter she was Blonde like Luke and Ben her name was Nellith Skywalker originally Nellith was the name of Luke Real Sister i would like to think that Nellith is the name of a Female Character Descended from Luke
There are more Skywalkers and Solos during Legacy Comics than the ones we saw in that Story
Imperial history headcanon:
In the months after Endor (and beginning within a few hours of hearing the news), Ysanne Isard fought a scorched-earth war of extermination against the ISB. This is one of the biggest reasons she didn't move immediately to try and take the throne for herself. She knew the biggest opposition to her taking power, and the biggest threat undermining her if she did, would come from Imperial Intelligence's main rival agency, so it would have to be eliminated before she moved on to that. Letting Pestage pretend he was in power also meant that he'd be the one dealing with challenges from the other, dumber (but still time-consuming) pretenders to the throne like General Carvin, which left her mostly free to concentrate on her war against the ISB without distractions.
She was completely successful, of course, allowing her to move on to the next stages of her plan as we saw in the X-wing comics. ISB wasn't completely destroyed, but all its key leaders and star agents were exterminated, politicians sympathetic to it were removed or "persuaded" to drop them, and what was left was a hollow shell without much power in Imperial politics, sort of like the SA in Nazi Germany after the Night of the Long Knives. And that set the stage for them being formally disbanded a few years later.
Isard's war had long-term consequences for Imperial and galactic politics. Wiping out the ISB meant wiping out the primary enforcement arm (and the only really weaponized arm) of COMPNOR, which significantly weakened it in the face of rival institutions like the military. This is part of the reason why you hear less and less about COMPNOR as time goes on, and why by the time the Empire is reconstituted as the Remnant, the only two institutions that matter are the military (with "Supreme Commander of the Imperial Forces" being effectively synonymous with "head of state") and the Moffs. It also probably contributed to the Galactic Civil War eventually ending peacefully. COMPNOR was by no means the only source of diehard ideological fanatics (just look at Isard herself), but it was the strongest one, and the one most able to bring them together and channel their fanaticism into an institution with real long-term power. If they and their militant wing hadn't been sidelined, the Empire would probably never have turned into that less ideological and more military/technocratic regime, and they never would have ended up with a leadership realistic enough to recognize that their only chance for survival was to sue for peace with the New Republic.
Also, the Raptors were Death Watch.
Also, the Reckoning was sent back to Known Space just before Endor and the Inexorable was sent to Thrawn in its place.
Exar Kun was a Prodigy like Revan or Anakin Skywalker Vodo-Siosk Baas, Arca Jeth and Odan-Urr wanted him to be the Jedi Grand Master he was also one of the Most Powerful Jedi/Sith that ever existed Exar Kun Spirit remained without being destroyed for 3000 Years
Exar Kun fall to the Dark Side was more than just seeking for more Knowledge Ulic Qel-Droma is a clear example that you can become what you pretend to be i think Quinlan Vos could have been the next Ulic Qel-Droma if he had spent more time with Dooku Quinlan would have become a True Sith or a Dark Jedi and Luke Skywalker did not become a Sith in Dark Empire because in my Headcanon the Force Ghosts of Yoda, Obi Wan and Anakin Skywalker helped Luke to resist the Dark Side
The reason why the Story of the Skywalkers seems more important to the Galaxy is because the Empire erased all the Stories of the Old Republic the Republic also helped this thanks to the Ruusan Reformation and many battles against the Sith were erased the Story of the Skywalkers could be considered as more recent and it is easier to remember than to remember the events that occurred 1000, 3000 or 4000 years before Yes the Skywalkers were Powerful and Anakin Skywalker was born with only the Force but there are othe relevant Characters during the Old Republic Era
All we know of the Story of Star Wars in Legends are compilations made by Historians of the Galactic Federation Triumvirate we dont know if all the Events of the Novels, Comics and Video Games are all the Complete Story
Lord Kaan Brotherhood of Darkness was a Gray or Light Sith Organization but it was not a True Sith Order Darth Bane was right on that i think the moment when the Sith started to take methods other than the Old Sith teachings was started first during the SWTOR Era after that most of the Sith were just pretenders, cosplayers or possers wannabe Sith from all that Evolution is where Lord Kaan Brotherhood of Darkness Originates
I go with Nellith as Luke's grand-niece (fourth child of Jag and Jaina), myself.
The Crimson Jack in Halycion Legacy is actually the son of the original Crimson Jack.
Or maybe grandson? Some kind of descendant.
Not because the original died, but because he would never wear pants.
Not even holographic pants? He can keep it chilly down there if he likes...
Nah, he just doesn't want to deny the world the wonders of his toned legs.
The end of the Second Galactic Civil War was legally ended by the ‘Roche Accords,’ and then the Apocalypse was dealt with the ‘Anaxes Accords’, which specified that the Galactic Alliance was neutral in the Jedi-Sith War.
Many of these ‘Accords’ were known as the ‘Treaty of’. Treaty of Coruscant, Bastion, Sekot, Roche, Anaxes were interchangeable with the ‘Accords’.
Aayla Secura named her VenStar flagship Intrepid after the ship that brought her to Coruscant when she came back from the dark side.
In every era of Jedi-Sith wars, those Jedi who are able to become Force Ghosts wait until the darkness in the Force have passed before they begin traveling to the sites of their fallen Brothers and Sisters to exorcise their spirits and connect them back to the Force.
In fact, I'd like to think that this was Anakin Skywalker's duty as a Force Ghost to seek repentance from the Force itself. Bring peace to all his victims before he can move on to the great void like Obi-Wan did in Heir to the Empire.
Mara Jade when she was the Emperor Hand was trained under the teachings of the Potentium when Mara worked for the Empire she was not Sith, Dark Jedi or Jedi just like when Palpatine said when he introduced Mara to Darth Vader she was just an Experiment
I like Disney Sequels Movies but for me that Movies in Legends could be Imperial propaganda created during the New Republic Era made by Imperial Remnants a Story where a Palpatine defeats the Sith Emperor and becomes the hero of the Galaxy and becomes a Skywalker Jay Garrick Flash was just a Comic Book in Barry Allen Flash World so why not?
Dash Rendar is a Solo in Legends