Should the Jedi have closed their eyes?

I wrote a topic likes this a long time ago. But remember in ANH when Luke tells ben

Luke "how am i gonna see anything with the blast shield down" (something like that)

after that Ben tells luke something about trusting the force, dont trust what you see. So instead of luke looking at that remote and trying to figure out with his eyes where its gonna shoot, he let the force guide him. That way he trusted the force 100%.

Well getting to the new movies. Do you think it would of been neat to see some Jedi close their eyes while in action? I'm refering mostly in the Arena in episode 2. What if we had a shot during the fight where we see Obi wan possibly closing his eyes. That way obi wan would 100% trust the force. Think how many things you would 'see' in the arena. With your eyes open you would see thousands of battle droids and maybe your eyes were focused on a droid that was close to you, but a blaster shot was heading towards you from a Battle Droid that is 100 ft away.

If a Jedi closed his eyes and focused only on the force he wouldn't be in shock of what he sees. He'd just let the force guide them. I thought maybe seeing a Jedi close his eyes once would be neat. 100% trust in the force.

What if obi-wan did that during the anakin fight. What if that extra trust in the force gave obi-wan the advantage to hold off againts anakin.

Any thoughts?

 

"When one relies on sight to perceive the world, it is like trying to stare at the galaxy through a crack in the door."

-Kreia

I agree that the stronger Jedi would have done better, but some of the weaker Knights might not have been able to see everything. So they were probably better of with their eyes.

 

Well getting to the new movies. Do you think it would of been neat to see some Jedi close their eyes while in action?


We did, when Yoda was training the padawans in AOTC. Their helmets went down over their eyes.


Actually, now that I think of it, why did they need helmets for lightsaber training anyway ? Was something going to crash down from the ceiling ? Blindfolds not good enough ? A helmet is no protection against a lightsaber.

 

It might have been interesting.

Does Obi-Wan close his eyes when he centers himself before killing Maul?

I think Ben was trying to teach Luke, an 18-year-old (or whatever) with no knowledge of the Force, how it could help him.

Anyone seen Zaitochi the Blind Swordsman? Awesome movie.

 

That's very interesting. But yeah it would have been cool to see!
I was thinking, even if their eyes were half closed or even unfocused (you know when you daydream?), same sort of thing...you rely on the Force rather than your material senses.

 

The way i think of it is that when they have their eyes open they could be thinking "wow look at all these droids! Theres so many of them! Man there are blaster shots coming from all over the place! Look at these droids they're getting alittle to close to me"

But in accuality all the Jedi need to focus on is which blaster shots are heading towards them and to strike down the droids that are close to them. So instead of thinking "wow battle droids are everywhere" all they'd really to focus on is (through the force) "i sense a blaster shot coming behind me (block). I sense a shot coming infront of me (block). I sense a droid 3 feet to my right (slice)"

Now i dont know how much effort that takes, but i'm assuming there is a down side. The down side being that you would have to sense/feel where a droid that is 3 feet infront of you is. When you have your eyes open you see the droid and slice him. Where as you'd have to sense him then slice him.

So as far as blocking blaster and protecting yourself i'm guessing having your eyes closed is better.

For offense i say eyes open. But then again i'm not a Jedi, i dont know how that all works.

 

It's distracting/irritating. Just another thing to increase how much you need to concentrate.

 

Weren't the younglings using training sabers?
The kind that only stings real bad, but can't actually maim or kill you?

 

No, but having a blind master Jedi on the council would have been an awesome addition to the PT!

 

I think in general the PT was lacking in Jedi we cared about. Other then Yoda and Mace... Ki-Adi-Mundi was the only jedi that had a few lines. I would of liked if there were Ben Kenobi type Jedi on the council. Or in the Arena. Where are the older wiser Jedi. Why couldn't any other Jedi be developed in the PT? Mace was the only one. Sorry i got off topic. yeah closing eyes....what do you think.

 

Yeah, you get a welt if you get hit, but that's about it.

As for a blind Jedi Master on the Council, there's concept art of Agen Kolar/Eeth Koth like that.

 

The point of having their vision covered has to do with the idea of stretching out with the Force, to feel what is in their enviroment. To sense the danger. This develops their reflexes. But they don't have to close their eyes to do it. It's not different either way. The reason so many Jedi died on Geonosis had to do with overwhelming numbers. Jedi are good, but when there's too many blaster bolts coming their way, it's difficult to last as long.

The helmets the Younglings wore could be pulled down over their eyes. A more sophisticated form of a blindfold, rather than simple cloth. Obi-wan improvised by using what Han had stowed away.

 

The helmets the Younglings wore could be pulled down over their eyes. A more sophisticated form of a blindfold, rather than simple cloth.

But it seems like such an inelegant solution, a clumsy helmet instead of a form fitting visor. Kind of like using a helmet to block out sounds when earplugs would do the job.

 

Lets be serious, Lucas only did that with the kidlings so Luke doesn't look so dorky in Episode IV.

 

It's not about blocking out sounds. It's about relying on the Force instead of just your eyes and ears. People rely on their eyes in order to be aware of their enviroment. And save for the blind, hearing comes second. By cutting off their vision, a Force user must rely on the Force to see what their eyes cannot.

 

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