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Since the Pyrus topic is closed.....

Discussion in 'Communications' started by toochilled, Oct 31, 2001.

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  1. toochilled

    toochilled Jedi Knight star 5

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    I noticed that the line of argument was very much 'we cannot change users sigs'.

    This seems odd to me since I have, previously, had my signature censored and edited without my prior consent.

    I also understand that some other members have had their sigs edited also. This is mainly due to their signatures containing spoilers and then the user posting in the non-spoiler section.


    How can the JC administration respond therefore to such an obvious dichotomy between historical truth and current pretense?

    I would suggest that the complete post deletion was either a malicious act or an act of ignorance.
     
  2. Master_Hydeck

    Master_Hydeck Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well if the admins can't change a user's details, you people got a major problem. I've never heard of any system where the administrators couldn't get into a user's account if it was absolutely necessary.

    Fix this or it will bite you in the ass again.
     
  3. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Moderators can't change sigs. Managers can't change sigs. Administrators can.

    From what I can tell, no Administrator was around, and Pyrus had something inappropriate in his sig. He was asked to remove it, he gave the staff the finger. As there was no Administrator to force a change, the only course of action available was taken.

    But when you have a link to defamotory information that violates the privacy of several of the administrators of this board, and you refuse to remove it, do you really expect leniency?

    Vertical
     
  4. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    ah the finger pic :D

    I got banned for that once too :(
     
  5. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's a big no-no. :)

    Vertical
     
  6. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    but it is funny!


     
  7. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, I never said it wasn't. :)

    Vertical
     
  8. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    hehe.. funny stuff shouldnt be bannable :)
     
  9. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A new policy?

    Vertical
     
  10. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    oh vert.. nathan was online... when pyrus was doing that stuff so couldnt he have changed it?

    and yes funny stuff should be promoted not banned for :)
     
  11. GreatPumpkin

    GreatPumpkin Jedi Youngling

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    It's all fun and games till someone gets carved an eye AA :p
     
  12. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, I don't know why his profile wasn't changed, then. I can't help you there. I'll ask Nathan about it.

    Vertical
     
  13. Norman

    Norman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nathan's post in [link=http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=4539448&start=4540315]this thread[/link] seems to indicate that he was aware of the problem. Now, he doesn't specifically mention Pyrus, but since Nathan apparently used his admin status to edit his post well after the normally allotted half hour (EDIT: I see it has changed to 90 minutes, but that's immaterial, since his edit still exceeds the allotted time), something I can think of no legitimate reason for going through the trouble of, it would seem something had to be retrofitted to our current version of history.

    Add to this the fact that Pyrus was banned within the window of Nathan's original posting and subsequent editing, and it adds up to something fishy.
     
  14. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, as I said, I'll ask Nathan about it.

    Vertical
     
  15. toochilled

    toochilled Jedi Knight star 5

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    With such movement of mods and admins mistakes are inevitable.

    Fact of life.

     
  16. Mr. P

    Mr. P FanFic Archive Editor, Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Guys, Nathan is new to having all the administrator tools. He may not have found how to do that yet.

    --Mr. P
     
  17. Jedi Master RussDog

    Jedi Master RussDog Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We are wittling away at the few who registered before me, sorry pyrus :)





    ;)
     
  18. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Russ is right. :)

    Vertical
     
  19. Master_Hydeck

    Master_Hydeck Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Fair enough, but it still stands that you should fix the stituation.

    Perhaps you should suggest to those above Nathan to give you guys (managers and mods) the ability to edit sigs. Nathan can't always be around, and it does fall under a moderating issue, not a technical issue.
     
  20. Norman

    Norman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, he posted [link=http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=4539032&page=2]here[/link] that he had just discovered how to find users' passwords. This is well after Pyrus's banning, but just 20 minutes after he edited his post in the other thread I posted. It seems pretty clear to me that at the time of Pyrus's banning, he didn't know how to access users' accounts, but once he found out, he felt the need to cover some earlier tracks he had made. No big deal, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Know what I mean?
     
  21. Jedi Master RussDog

    Jedi Master RussDog Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Of course I am :p
     
  22. Jedi Master RussDog

    Jedi Master RussDog Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So thats what this password stuff is about? Ours are no longer secure?
     
  23. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Nathan can't give us the ability to edit profiles. Only Administrators can do that. That's just the way the code is.

    Vertical
     
  24. Norman

    Norman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, technically, he could. He can see passwords, so he can give you a password and you can edit profiles.

    But I understand you mean that he can't give you that ability as a function of being a mod. Just pointing out that it is a possibility.
     
  25. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    True, but I believe the point of that was so that we could do it while he wasn't around. But he'd have to be around to give us the password...

    Vertical
     
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