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Amph Spider-Man & SSU Films (Madame Web, Venom 3, Kraven, Beyond the Spider-Verse)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Spiderfan, May 20, 2008.

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  1. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't think Marvel would use a Sony movie to introduce any potential future main characters for their side but, since the gang will be stopping off in London ...

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    Bilbo Fett, Jan 17, 2019
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  2. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    There is also Union Jack, Blade, Spitfire and Excalibur [face_praying]
     
    Gamiel, Jan 17, 2019
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  3. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They weren't S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, but I don't think they'll go that route. They might, but who knows?
     
    darth-sinister, Jan 17, 2019
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  4. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Here's an interesting consideration ...



    If this thing ends up winning the Oscar for Best Animated would that be enough to get L&M, with their producing and writing credits on it, far enough back in Disney's good graces to land them an MCU directing gig? Star Wars would definitely be out but they always struck me as being a great fit for the MCU, depending on the character of course.
     
    Bilbo Fett, Jan 17, 2019
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  5. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Sith_Sensei__Prime, Jan 17, 2019
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  6. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Depends on how completely they were perceived to have screwed up Solo.
     
    Diggy , Jan 17, 2019
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  7. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Bilbo Fett, Jan 18, 2019
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  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I think it's unlikely- not sticking to the script/plan wouldn't fly with Feige any more than it did with KK. Both franchises have to stay within certain parameters to remain cohesive, even if those parameters permit a good deal of variation. Try to alter the story too much and maybe you a mutual parting of ways like Patty Jenkins had. But go too far off the reservation with tone or script and you end up like Wright, Lord & Miller.
     
    The2ndQuest , Jan 18, 2019
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  9. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    I think Wright is a bit of a special case. Ant-Man only got off the ground because of him and had a long gestation period with his involvement that started before the MCU was well defined or knew exactly what it wanted to be. He and Marvel parted ways once it was obvious his desires wouldn't mesh as well with the larger narrative.

    What I'm talking about with L&M is being able to bring them on board because what they would do with certain characters would mesh well. You're not as concerned with them going off of the reservation because the sandbox they want to play in fits into the larger picture. They would be involved in taking a pass over the script and fine tuning it to their flavor rather than having a situation where they were being brought in to shoot a script written by someone as territorial as Lawrence Kasdan who also happened to be the lead producer.
     
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  10. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Feige is totally fine with tonal experiments in the MCU but the big pieces have to fit together, which is probably what sent Wright packing. I'm sure nothing stylistically was going to be a dealbreaker.
     
    BigAl6ft6, Jan 18, 2019
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  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Wright was a mixture of both, I suspect. IIRC, the script wasn't really the issue (though they no doubt reworked it a little after he left), which suggests it was an issue of style or tone going too far or being otherwise incompatible with the direction of the overall MCU.

    Well, I think that's why Wright is an apt comparison- he was also involved with the development of the script and still ultimately tried to take things in a direction that wouldn't work for the producer (and Feige obviously has involvement in overall story direction). Feige does seem to favor improv more than KK, but I think there are limitations even within that- if only due to the different nature of each franchise.

    I mean, for Disney, it's really just going to come down to "These guys won't do what we hire them to do and, because of that behavior, previously caused us to spend a lot more money on a film that would have otherwise been profitable (even if underperforming), for the sake of maintaining longterm franchise quality." and there's no way they're going to risk that again on another mega-franchise.

    I could see L&M working for Disney on an original animated project unconnected to an established franchise, however- but I think even there, Disney is going to be much more protective of their animation brand than they were 15 years ago. They just have so many other creatives they could hire who don't bring that history with them.
     
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    The2ndQuest , Jan 19, 2019
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  12. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Force Ghost star 5

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  13. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    So if that is the real Sandman then in two films they've introduced three members of the original Sinister Six. I wonder if that means we can expect Doc Ock in Spider-Man 3 with maybe Kraven or Electro as a secondary villain and then have the Sinister Six form in a potential fourth film.
     
    Darth Chiznuk , Jan 22, 2019
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  14. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Or they could use an alternative line-up, they don't need to copy the comics original line-up after all
     
    Gamiel, Jan 22, 2019
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  15. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I wonder if they'll use Scorpion instead since they've already set up Mac Gargan. That post credit scene definitely felt like it was setting something up.
     
    Darth Chiznuk , Jan 22, 2019
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  16. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I've been waiting for a Sinister Six movie since, oh, the end of Spider-Man 2 (I convinced myself Doc Ock wasn't dead) and it's damn time for one. Spider-Verse got kinda close with the multiple baddies. Speaking of which, Spider-Verse just nominated for Best Animated Picture, yahooo!
     
    BigAl6ft6, Jan 22, 2019
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  17. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    So it's your fault Sony has kept trying to make that solo SS movie for the past decade.
     
    The2ndQuest , Jan 22, 2019
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  18. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Hey, I would pay good money to see the Drew Goodard Sinister Six, that's why he left Daredevil right after it just started running. Then they canned it. :( Live again, Goodard Six!
     
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  19. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Ugh, if they are building to a Sinister Six appearance I certainly hope it isn't that stupid solo film idea. Don't get cute, Sony, just put Spider-Man in it like he belongs. :p
     
    Darth Chiznuk , Jan 22, 2019
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  20. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I think the Sony Hack revealed that Spider-Man would have been in the Sinister Six movie (there was some jabbering about Andrew Garfield wanting to know if it would count for his ASM #3 contract). I actually don't mind a movie from the POV of the Sinister Six but in the end Spider-Man has to show up. Unlike how Venom did it. You can do a movie about the baddies but ultimately you need freakin' Spider-Man in the Spider-Man movie!
     
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    BigAl6ft6, Jan 22, 2019
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  21. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    Spider-Man's main villains...

    1. which ones have never had a live-action cinematic appearance since Raimi's trilogy began, but should?

    2. which past villains, not yet in the MCU but in the Raimi trilogy or Amazing duology, should be introduced in the MCU?
     
    Ghost, Jan 22, 2019
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  22. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    new ones: Kraven! Hobgoblin! Carnage! Black Cat (yes, I know Felicia is in ASM 2 but that barely counts). Mr. Negative! Get Vincent D'onofrio to play Kingpin in an MCU Spidey fer crissakes!
     
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    BigAl6ft6, Jan 22, 2019
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  23. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Kraven would be tops on my list (since we're getting Mysterio) and you could always throw Chameleon in that story as well. I also have always thought having one or both of the Smythes (I'm not counting the ASM2 cameo) and doing a Spider-Slayer movie could work really well.
     
    cubman987 , Jan 22, 2019
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  24. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    What about the Jackal and Kaine?

    (and we've yet to see Mac Gargan as the Scorpion)

    There's also the Man-Spider storyline.


    Who is Mr Negative?
     
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    Ghost, Jan 22, 2019
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  25. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I say no, some things work in the comics or even the cartoons but not as well on the big screen and I feel like the clone saga and Man-Spider story-lines fit that bill.

    Right - I guess I'm assuming we are going to but I definitely want to see that - heck, bring in the Smythes to make his suit!

    He's a new(ish) villain - basically a super powered mob boss.
     
    cubman987 , Jan 23, 2019
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  26. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    Any reason why Mr Negative would be better than the Kingpin as a mob boss? Could he fit with the MCU? (I assume some wacky dimensional thing is going on to make him look like that)
     
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