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Amph Star Trek: Lower Decks [CBSAA Animated Series]

Discussion in 'Community' started by PymParticles , Jul 1, 2020.

  1. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Started watching the show last night and just finished it this morning. I had low expectations, but thankfully the show exceeded them by a fair margin. I didn't like Mariner much at all throughout the season, but where it left off at the end I'm hoping she's toned down somewhat. I'm all for a character that bends the rules, but too often she went from maverick to just plain rude for absolutely no reason. Thankfully Boimler, Rutherford and Tendi were really great so it helped cover it up somewhat.

    In regards to the finale...

    Seeing the Titan (and looking the same as she has in the novels and STO) was great, especially when she flies in all guns blazing and the TNG theme blaring. Great stuff. Hopefully we'll see more of her in S2, but I have a feeling Boimler will find his way back to the Cerritos all too soon.
     
  2. dp4m

    dp4m JCC Playoff Pick 'Em Winner, Also a Narc star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Yeah, too-much-Mariner was a problem in the first couple of episodes -- it's already starting to tone-down by Ep 2, and then Ep 3 I think is where the show starts firing on all cylinders.
     
  3. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    “Phasers locked onto their warp core! Please, PLEASE let me shoot their warp core! I’ve been VERY good this month!”

    Reactivated my CBSAA in advance of DIS S3 and binged this season last night/today. Really fun series- some of the cuts are pretty deep and not just the obvious ones. There was more character development in a few episodes than I expected (the holodeck movie episode in particular) and the show kinda surprises you that Mariner is the real main character, despite seeming at first to just be Boimer's hyperactive friend.

    The humor, for the most part, worked for me. It only breaks the line a few times, IMO (when Mariner acts super-rude in front of the other Captain, being above-normal insubordinate; a few references that seem like they would be less known in real life [like, I can buy that the missions and logs of the OG Enterprise and Enterprise-D would be read about more often than other things, but something like Crusher and the ghost is really not something that would be so commonly read as to be a widely recognized reference in-universe] and the TOS line just barely wobbles over the edge and back [about as much as the FC "Star Trek" line, so it's not without precedence]).

    And, also, clearly, mocking the dry dock sequence is a bridge too far. :p

    Small details also track nicely, like the TAS image being used much like the ST5 image was used in STB. All the vocal cameos were awesome too, with
    J.G. Hertzler and Kurtwood Smith
    being my favorites.

    Obviously loved seeing the Titan. Also found it interesting that it is implied that some ships under heavy repair get aesthetic upgrades to look more "Sovereign like". Something that makes sense but we haven't really seen before, despite the implication that it occurred between TOS and TMP on several ships. That clamped warp jump was pretty nasty too. And I'm surprised the Cerritos is even salvageable given how much of the saucer superstructure must have been compromised by those cutting phasers.

    Though I'm surprised they didn't use this situation in the finale to show off whatever the Cali-class's special gimmick is that they've been hinted at.

    I take the presence of the FC uniforms to mean that we're in a transitory period for the new uniforms. Much like how the Enterprise-D had TNG uniforms as the DS9/VOY uniforms were being implemented, or how the TOS uniforms debuted on the Connies in DIS while DIS still had the blue ones.

    So, in this case, the Cerritos has the newer uniforms while the Titan still has the FC duty uniforms. And the Cerritos uniforms end up being the stepping stone towards the PIC flashback uniforms.

    As for the Pakleds, I like that they're both trying to make them more of a threat (using ship parts and weapons from Romulans, Klingons, Ferengi, Bajorans, "Unknown" and whatever the triangles logo in the lower middle are from), even though they still can't stand up to a frontline ship like the Titan, and to show that, on a "Lower Decks" level of threat, the Cerritos isn't outmatched by Borg or Klingons or even Ferengi. No, on that playing field level, their Ultimate Threat are the Pakleds [face_laugh].

    EDIT- The weird triangles are apparently the Arkonians from a couple episodes of Enterprise:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    If anyone could finally get the warp core ejection system to function properly in an actual crisis, it's that man.

    Since the ENT finale was clearly set during TNG, I love that this implies that Riker keeps going back to that program for years/
     
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  4. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

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    It's possible that Bevery's sex candle ghost adventures were a part of official Starfleet record since it was an alien with malicious deadly intent, although the log might have redacted some of the more salacious sex candle ghost aspects.

    One thing I noticed in a middle episode of Lower Decks is when the ship has the alien attracted to it and flew away inside the other California class ship, to me it looked like another life form like the Farpoint entity, and it grew again out of an energy source.
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Even if it was part of the mission log records, it would still be very, very low on the list of "missions most people know & would get a reference to".
     
  6. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Master star 4

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    They've been hinting at something?

    I must have missed that. Honestly I though the Cali's special gimmick was that their old peices of junk.

    That's pretty much my take as well.

    And Riker keeps trying to get other peaple to care, but nobody does becuase they all think Archer was a boring dude (diplomacy is lame! Kirk beat up Gorn, saved Earth all the time and got all the babes!) who tried to make up wild stories about secret agents from the future and alien Nazis to make himself appear cooler:D.

    I'm just going to assume that either Riker blabbed to Mariner while in the process of hooking her up with contraband and Mariner blabbed to everyone else or the lower decks crew of the Enterprise (ironicly is'nt the TNG episode Lower Decks the episode right after Sub Rosa?) spread gossip through the fleet.

    I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it was;)
     
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  7. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The showrunner hinted at something during one of his interviews on Trekyards, IIRC.
     
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  8. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, I'm sure once the ship is added to STO we'll find out what it is:p

    (given that the whole idea behind the Cali is that it differs slightly based on the three Starfleet specializations and Starfleet in STO - at least when I last played the game - had your character chose one of those specializations, it might make sense to have it be the new defualt starter ship for the Federation in place of the Miranda).
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    One extra benefit of bringing the Titan into full canon status through Lower Decks- more fan render videos!

     
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  10. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

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  11. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 ST/Anthology/Fan Films Manager and Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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