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Comics Star Wars: Crimson Reign

Discussion in 'Literature' started by DarthTalgus, Aug 18, 2021.

  1. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Comics Ochi is so funny. The movie built him up as this badass killer, a Sith assassin!, and he died by falling in a pit. The new Boba Fett, in a way. And then unlike the what the EU did with Boba, which was play up that badass killer side, Ochi is portrayed as exactly the kind of joke character who would die from falling in a pit. Also, you don't need to be some cunning vicious killer to kill Rey's parents, who, regardless of their lineage, were just regular people and therefore could have been killed by pretty much anyone hired to do the job. Next time I have the stomach to watch TROS again it's going to be very amusing hearing everyone talk about deadly, frightening Ochi when we know the truth.
     
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  2. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I hear 80s scream voice when he speaks, the high pitched whiny.
     
  3. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Force Ghost star 6

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    I hear Starscream, Skeletor and sometimes Alex Hersch Bill Cipher/King voice when it come to Ochi

    And that's why what they are doing with Ochi is genius.
     
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  4. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

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    Ochi still hasn't taken off his helmet, the one shot of his unhelmeted face in TROS when he's advancing of Rey's parents holding the dagger is genuinely creepy. But he's just way funnier with the helmet on and kicking down doors hollering "I'm Ochi of Bastoon!" and then getting punched in the face.

    Although he did, y'know, stab 2 unarmed people to death. Or at least one person. Could have vaporized Rey's mum. That's pretty darn nasty. I'd love to see them reconcile it with the somewhat doofy guy we got now. Better be a One-Shot in the future about his actions and demise.
     
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  5. VexedAtVohai

    VexedAtVohai Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sometimes you just have to lean into the silliness of the films.
     
  6. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah but you can do one horrible thing and 99% of the time be a complete doofus.
     
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  7. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I love that the comics ran full-steam with Ochi being exactly the sort of character who would drive around with a Sith emblem as a hood ornament.
     
  8. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

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    Anyway, totally a personal theory, but I think the main reason this isn't a Big Multimedia LFL project ala Shadows or High Republic is the project impetus itself probably really likely came from Marvel wanting a Big Summer Star Wars Crossover. If the whole Qi'Ra/Crimson Dawn return (which I totally dig) came from anyone it probably wasn't LFL/Story Group but Soule. If it wasn't, that's probably a multiple level publishing project. Heck, maybe it was just his idea for the next arc in Star Wars but Marvel said "Crossover!" (Older example but Brian Michael Bendis had his Ultimate Six arc become a separate miniseries from Ultimate Spider-Man by Marvel editorial although he initially just fully intended it to just be the next arc)
     
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  9. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Force Ghost star 6

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    Real question is what happens to Qi'ra when this is all over

    Cuz if she dies then well...... :(

    I mean technically flashback stuff but like, that wouldn't 'be as interesting if she was in the Post Endor material.
     
  10. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

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    I'd put better odds that she'll still be alive by the end, maybe Crimson Dawn will be a bust, but I doubt they'd bring her back to bump her off. I mean, it COULD happen but eh not likely they'd bring her out of her storyline void just to kill her off.

    Bringing Emilla Clarke back in any of the Mando-timeline live action stuff would be amazing. And they'd definitely drop a reference to this, they referenced Operation Cinder!
     
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  11. VexedAtVohai

    VexedAtVohai Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It would be a stupid decision to kill her off in a comic, whatever their plans are. They rarely kill film characters in books or comics.

    Qi'ra would make sense as a potential ongoing series for Endor-Jakku. Darth Vader won't exactly be able to continue.
     
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  12. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Master star 4

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    Wouldn’t surprise me if they tried to cram in another Vader series taking place during an earlier point in his timeline. But in general, somethings gotta give if they want to keep the comics going post-RotJ.

    Qi’ra’s as good a suggestion as any I’ve heard for carrying the line forward.
     
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  13. VexedAtVohai

    VexedAtVohai Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A mini-series serving as a prequel to Obi-Wan Kenobi, possibly.
     
  14. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Master star 4

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    That sounds about right, though knowing Marvel they’d try and make it a full 25 issue run.
     
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  15. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 6

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    This will be total story of Qira and Ren seems to ge like he is in others stories olny 20 years younger.
     
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  16. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 3

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    I think that they'll probably go with a Vader series prior to the OT again. The 2017 run barely scratched the surface, there's a lot of space in those ~20 years for more stories. Personally, I've felt for a while that the next Vader series ought to be in fact a Kylo Ren ongoing series prior to TFA.

    If the main series and the Aphra series (and the Bounty Hunter series?) go post-Endor or post-Jakku, I think that a spin-off Dark Sideish character is likely to serve as the fill-in for Vader. Qi'ra fits the bill for that role and is a strong enough character/concept to carry an ongoing, if you ask me.

    Or a full series serving as a sequel, depending on the fallout from Kenobi.
     
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  17. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Hopefully Qi'ra gets to beat up Ochi with her pair of Sailor Moon Kaledo Scope inspired weapons...
     
  18. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 6

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    Now her next arc begins with the WOTBH has ended. And we see her work with Ren and others on the cover.
     
  19. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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    Hopefully, Qi'ra will be more front and center in this one and the sequel. She didn't do much besides briefly fighting Vader in the crossover.
     
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  20. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Hey... what else does she need? I enjoyed her flexing her muscles from all different angles and artists styles.

    I know they are cheating by telling the same story from a thousand povs but that piece was glorious!
     
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  21. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 6

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    First cover most likley, and im getting beyond excited, red guards.!
     
  22. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    cover for #2 actually
     
  23. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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    https://www.starwars.com/news/marvel-january-2022-star-wars-comics-exclusive
    [​IMG]

    STAR WARS: CRIMSON REIGN #2 (OF 5)

    CHARLES SOULE (W) • STEVEN CUMMINGS (A) • Cover by LEINIL FRANCIS YU

    SABACC CARD VARIANT COVER BY DAVID LOPEZ
    KNIGHTS OF REN VARIANT COVER BY RAHZZAH
    WARRIORS OF DAWN VARIANT COVER BY VALERIO GIANGIORDANO
    ENEMIES OF DAWN VARIANT COVER BY CLAYTON CRAIN
    SYNDICATE VARIANT COVER BY KHOI PHAM
    CONNECTING VARIANT COVER BY ARIO ANINDITO

    THE ASSASSINS!

    QI’RA sends two killers to do what they do best to continue with her plan to plunge the galaxy into chaos. The relentless, Force-blinded OCHI OF BESTOON and the mysterious, unstoppable DEATHSTICK each have a target, and nothing will get in their way!
     
  24. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Looks like this isn't a crossover after all. Phew.

    Well, not like WOTBH was. I'd imagine there'll be cross-references in the other issues, but it doesn't seem to be taking them over for a few months.
     
  25. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 6

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    I think the next is probaly the last of the Qira trilogy,