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Resistance Star Wars Resistance Season 1 Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Sep 25, 2018.

  1. smudger9

    smudger9 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There is no doubt that TCW had a relatively slow start, Rookies aside, but went on to give us some of the best Star Wars content in the later seasons.

    Rebels started well but didn’t have the same level of progression as TCW.

    I’m hoping that Resistance follows TCW!
     
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  2. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    OK, so just got done watching the latest episode “The High Tower” with the nephew. The first half (and the end) features a lot of the bumbling Kaz stuff, and the listless character tensions, that you’ll likely continue to find annoying. But the middle included the best material so far, including a level of political complexity we’ve not yet seen (not even in the ST, in my view). And the very end included an unusually complex and adult theme. Won’t spoil it, but everyone is happy with a change that improves their daily lives, but Kaz knows it comes at a moral cost.

    This episode, more than any, makes me think the show will be worth watching, particularly with kids ages 8-15 or so. And as far as I understand the progression of the season, these more mature themes are likely to increase significantly.

    Would recommend giving it a shot, with the caveat that you’ll be annoyed by bits of it. I get the distinct feeling that there’s a really, really good show in there, but the creators don’t trust their audience’s intelligence enough to dispense with the slapstick antics. Just when it’s getting good, bam, human Jar Jar appears for good measure. It’s unfortunate, but I got the feeling it would become less and less of a feature. The story seems to be suggesting, with this episode, that Kaz is getting smarter.
     
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  3. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't think Kaz is stupid and I can kinda understand why he's acting like an idiot sometimes. He's completely out of his element as a mechanic and spy on the Colossus. The guy is obviously an excellent fighter pilot, and the moment he'll get an access to a good ship, he'll show of his talents.

    Even that race in the first episode, if his ship wouldn't crash, he would have won. He's probably already better pilot than most, if not all of the Aces.
     
  4. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Agreed. But you touch on a core problem people have with the show. If he’s a pilot with no experience in spying (or in his cover job, mechanic) why...give him such a mission? The only decent answer I can come up with is that the Collosus is full of hotshot pilots, so he’ll fit in there as a pilot himself. But then...why make him a mechanic?
     
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  5. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    The real world answer probably is that the creators of the show wanted a character they felt children would identify with and that can be used to convey growing up lessons.

    The in universe answer is more tricky. Perhaps Poe sees leadership potential in Kaz and he sent him there to learn about responsibility and the life of "normal" people out there in the galaxy.

    My personal theory is that we'll find out that Jarek Yeager used to be Poe's instructor back in the NR Academy, before he retired and moved to Colossus. Kaz probably reminds Poe of himself when he was younger, so he sent him to Colossus to learn from his old mentor. It fits with the whole master-apprentice dynamic that's at the core of Star Wars and was at the core of TCW and Rebels as well.
     
  6. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    Which is why I say they should have given him a better cover story. And been given some basic training in spycraft. But not doing that makes him both the "star" of the show...and the comic relief as well.

    As for the race?? He was pushed into a race he did not want, to pay for parts for a ship that was not his with money he did not have so had to get substandard parts that were not capable of the job, that crapped out at the start of the race and failed when he pushed them.
     
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  7. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Agreed completely. That’s my justification as well. Could have been executed better, but it works for me.
     
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  8. Siphonophore

    Siphonophore Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think having him be a mechanic is a great cover job. Putting a wrench in one's hand is a great diversionary tactic. People see a tool, and they automatically think there's a task at hand that's being worked on. The mechanic is concentrating on what's under the hood, and doesn't have the scope to focus on anything else. Throw in the bumbling spy, à la Johnny English, The Man Who Knew Too Little, Spy Time, the OSS-117 films (both Cairo: Nest of Spies, and Lost in Rio), and that's the making of some good fun. Those last three are quite good, the OSS-117 ones in particular, starring Jean Dujardin.
    Take away the wrench and replace it with a clipboard (tablet), and the perceived scope of that individual changes. That person is looking at everything and taking notes. Not that a spy would walk around with a clipboard...... although, Mike in Better Call Saul does something similar.
     
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  9. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    However some competency in being a mechanic would help him sell it more...Kind of like Wildcat in Tailspin.
     
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  10. cwustudent

    cwustudent Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's a good example! Resistance needs Jim Cummings immediately. As for Kaz, I can excuse his mechanical incompetency, bcs that's a cover job, but not his attitude. I want his attitude to change before his father's death, not bcs of it.
     
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  11. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony JCC Game Winner star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    Random thought I just had.

    Luke
    was a moisture farmer. He didn't want to be a moisture farmer. He wanted to screw around with his friends. He wanted to join the Academy and get off the planet. Yoda criticized him in Empire that his mind was never on where he was or what he was doing. It's because he didn't want to be where he was and he didn't want to be doing what he was doing.

    Kaz is doing what he wants to do - he's a pilot and he's good at it. But now that he's been given a job to be a spy while posing as a mechanic - he doesn't want to be a mechanic and he sucks at it. He's tries to spy and he sucks at it. He's essentially the inverse of Luke.

    So what I can't figure out is why I enjoyed watching Luke's journey in the OT and so far I'm not enjoying Kaz's.
     
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  12. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    We got one movies worth of whiny Luke but get we bumbling Kaz every week for the next few years. The weekly format makes character arcs more of a grind.
    Luke was a different character in each movie. In ANH he was a neophyte. In ESB he was a soldier. In RoTJ, he is a Jedi.
     
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  13. cwustudent

    cwustudent Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I love that you're comparing Kaz to Luke.
    Kaz needs a Yoda to teach him how to spy.
    Luke cared about joining the Rebellion and becoming a Jedi, so I did, too. If Kaz cared about being a mechanic, then he could build his own ship, and then spy and fly. But, like you said, Kaz doesn't care. Should I?
     
  14. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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  15. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Kaz seems to care about his spy mission quite a bit. And being in the Resistance, which he’s always wanted (against his controlling father’s wishes). Those are his equivalents to Luke wanting to become a Jedi. Not the mechanic cover story, or the piloting. So because Kaz cares about the spy mission for the Resistance, I care about that. The mechanic stuff is just a sideshow.
     
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  16. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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  17. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    So why is a trooper in gold armour answering to a trooper in silver one? Shouldn't it be the other way around? :)
     
  18. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    it might be bronze. There's also a story to Phasma's armor.
     
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  19. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    So it was confirmed its gold by starwars.com. No explanation so far why though.

    Was Phasma's silver armour first and all the other elite stormtroopers just started coying her?
     
  20. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    I am thinking it is about rank. All troopers are equally expendable to the FO...but you achieve distinction and senior rank you are awarded a "command armor" that has a distinct color.
     
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  21. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Phasma's armor is chromium. Which is not only very valuable in the GFFA, but also has other properties that would be considered when making armor, such as superior strength. Perhaps Pyre's gold armor is also chromium (like C-3PO's gold chromium finish)? Or maybe it's just gold plating on a different alloy selected for it's specific properties?

    Either way, imo there are other reason's besides looks or monetary value that would necessitate various alloys being used as armor.
     
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  22. La Calavera

    La Calavera Force Ghost star 4

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    I was about to say that maybe the GFFA has different values for metals, but then I remembered that gold has also been depicted as valuable currency or jewelry. So… eh.

    I thought that armor was bronze. It should’ve been bronze, starward dot com.
     
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  23. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    Could all just be different colors of chromium.
     
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  24. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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  25. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    that freighter looks like the decoy transports used by Nym's Revenants in Star Wars: Starfighter. Neat.
     
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