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Comics Star Wars: Target Vader (6/6 released)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ancient Whills, May 23, 2019.

  1. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    So aside from this looking awesome, I have one question:

    That second page scan. Have we seen that species before? Or is it a cross between a Sullustan and an Iktochi? If no one knows, I know what to write in my own personal canon journal...[face_whistling]
     
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  2. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    New species from TLJ and Solo, so far unnamed.
     
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  3. Senpezeco

    Senpezeco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  4. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    As cool as Darth Vader is they (especially the comics) really need to give the character a rest.
     
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  5. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    id argue this is more using Vader to show off Valance
     
  6. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    MY POINT STILL STANDS. Sultochi it is!
     
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  7. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    If people buy the books, why stop?
     
  8. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    Obviously from a business perspective it's sound. I'm just saying we've had alot of Vader stuff and that it's possible to overuse a character and dilute their impact.
     
  9. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    My point was that people obviously like to read about Vader, because otherwise the comics wouldn't sell. You may be right that overexposure may settle in at some point, but that depends on the quality of the storylines really.
    People still read Batman comics and there have been a bazillion of those.
     
  10. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    I'm not denying that they sell well which is definitely a major factor in there being so many releases. Also more power to the people who want more.

    I'm just saying, from my perspective, given that there is a finite number of slots, and given that we have already got so many Vader comics recently, it'd be good to space them out a bit. I know that that's probably not going to happen, but that's my perspective on it.
     
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  11. Merlyn Emerald

    Merlyn Emerald Jedi Master star 3

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    Not many. About Vader usually write very little, and the current comics are some of poor quality, so they can not be considered. Personally, I will not survive the reduction of the Vader line! I faithfully buy all the comics with him and all the books with him. I want more works with him. And spin-off about Vader! Lord Vader IS Star Wars. [face_love]

    I would say, to embarrass Valance. It is clear that the comic will be the next mockery, where the usual bounty hunters will try to kill Vader. Funny... pfff... I hope they at least show a clear motivation of Valance. Why did he decide to kill Vader? For what? For being kicked out of the Empire when he became a cyborg? What does Vader have to do with it? Milord... scapegoat of the Empire... [face_sigh]
     
  12. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I agree. It feels like over-saturation, and I wouldn't really want Vader to be the Star Wars equivalent of Batman. It's also the sense of a new Vader comic "taking the place" of a potential comic for some other, less-exposed character. We've had two great Vader series focusing on important points in his life, so I'd rather hear from another character for a little while.
     
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  13. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    I'm not sure that applies.
    Fact is: Marvel needs comic sales. Only when they make a profit they can potentially invest some money into so-called lesser characters.
    Vader and the whole Star Wars mainline series keeps the boat afloat.
     
  14. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    But is Vader the only character could pull these types of sales numbers?
     
  15. Merlyn Emerald

    Merlyn Emerald Jedi Master star 3

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    Can you immediately call a character who is better than Lord Vader?
    I doubt anyone could top the man for whom the whole Star Wars Saga was created.
     
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  16. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    I don't know. Star Wars mainline sells better than Vader, but not much else. Poe Dameron was cancelled and Aphra sales are close to cancellation numbers, unfortunately.

    Star Wars comics aren't doing so well these days which probably has to do with a waning interest in SW in general.
     
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  17. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    And the thing about the Batman comics -- if we're going to use that analogy for a moment -- is that those stories ride massively off their diverse cast of villains. It's not so much "who is Batman gonna pound in this issue?" so much as "how is the villain is going to mentally/emotionally test Batman in this issue?"

    I sort of feel like... that won't work with Vader. It's not that they haven't developed enough routine Vader antagonists (although I guess they haven't), but it's hard to emotionally test Vader too much before he starts to seem very soft. Vader's put all other emotions except rage on hold during his time with the Emperor; sure he can show a little bit of Anakin here and there, but it's hard to explore and keep him the badass we all want to read about.
     
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  18. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So you're saying they need to kick-start Vader's Rogues Gallery by recanonizing his greatest foe, Lady Dhol the Chess-Playing Space Octopus.
     
  19. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would gladly go for a Anakin and Obiwan series set between TPM and AOTC then another Vader series.
     
  20. Darth_Pevra

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    They already did Anakin and Obi-Wan as a five-parter. Maybe that was to test whether or not it had potential to become an ongoing series.

    That said, I think an ongoing featuring Anakin & Obi as well as other Jedi during that time would have some potential.
     
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  21. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    Lady DHOL NEEDS TO COME BACK Also anything with Anakin between 1 & 2 would be gold like How was his time at the temple being the chosen one. How many kids were his friends how many were his bullies . how many times did sheev sneak in and drop sage wisdom
     
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  22. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Basically all of that is in the first issue of Soule's Obi-Wan & Anakin series.
     
  23. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    But theres more to see and flesh out with it . isn't there ? I know I want more
     
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  24. Jid123Sheeve

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    I feel like if they were to do another Vader run the only thing I feel that would be remotely interesting and a legit reason to do it if the Vader run took place post Empire Strikes Back and dealt with the post Empire Pre Jedi period, that's the most interesting last Vader thing to do honestly.
     
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  25. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    Vader is the new Thanos. Funny thing is that GL said that Vader was now 80% as opposed to what he could have become. He said the Emperor wanted Anakin because of his super force potential but after losing to Obi-Wan, Vader became some 20% less than the Emperor in terms of force power. Now flash forward to Disney Star Wars and I feel like the Emperor is 250% less than Vader. Vader can now fly himself, take on whole armies like in Vader down comic, and do very impressive force feats like in Lords of the Sith novel. I haven't even gotten into the Rebels tv series and RO movie, not to mention Galaxy of Adventures. Vader is amped.

    If its true that the Marvel star wars comics are not doing so well its because there stories aren't that exciting. Sorry but Dr. Aphra doesn't cut it for me and neither does the one shot character issues. The movies have uneventful tie in comics. ROTS had Obsession and while that 5 issue series may have not been super hot, it was good along with Dark Horse's Star Wars on-going. TFA what does that have? TLJ had that Phasma comic that was uneventful for me, and RO had nothing except a one shot comic and Solo, a movie that was lackluster at the box office had all sorts of tie-in's with comics. Talk about weird and now Rise of the Skywalker has a 4 issue series, which I am not expecting much of.

    The problem with the Marvel line is that the star wars comics are character centered stories as opposed to Dark Horse which managed to tell event type stories with different characters not always involving the big three in the star wars universe. Now that the glitter of Marvel getting the Star Wars license has started to fade, you are staring to see that the comics are kinda bland.
     
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