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SWC SWC Jedi Draft/Starfighter Draft plans! This Is Happening!

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by heels1785 , Feb 12, 2014.

  1. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Guys, I have to move offices today - since we are still discussing things, we'll shoot for a weekend or Monday morning start.
     
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  2. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Re: team battles...winners vs. winners is an idea that's been thrown around before, but it kind of discourages building toward coordinated or thematic teams (which is cooler than everyone just taking Best Player Available off the board each pick). Plus it massively decreases the likelihood that a well-built team can take down a top-heavy squad-- Luke, for instance, is never losing individually and will have even more of an impact in a 5-on-5.

    Also Anakin Solo should not be in a Pick 2 C'MON WHAT ARE YOU THINKING YOU VAGRANTS
     
  3. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    why not only losers fight in team battles?
     
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  4. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Interesting, trim. I could go for that.
     
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  5. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    interestingly, that would put the top heavy team at something of a disadvantage moving into team fights, and also removes the problem of people like luke since they're almost guaranteed a win anyway. it would also mean that putting together an actual team matters a bit more, i think, since it means that the weakest members of your team could be what ultimately wins it for you.
     
  6. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I wouldn't complain. My team last draft was crazy on cohesion, but never won a team match because it got stuck with teams that had heavier hitters.
     
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  7. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Wouldn't that just encourage bad trumps?
     
  8. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    what do you mean by bad trumps exactly?
     
  9. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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    Sora Bulq and Depa Billiba :p
     
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  10. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I think we're getting to a point where the discussion is going to get confusing and we could keep going and going, so let's draw a line in the sand.

    Let's add the "Pick 2" and Natural Trumps for this draft, and keep everything else the same. Next draft, we'll be changing a whole heck of a lot anyways, so we can look at implementing the other things. All in favor?
     
  11. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Yeahhhh this is gonna be the last one before Ep VII changes everything.

    GOOD BYE JACEN (pre-going-crazy) I WILL MISS YOU
     
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  12. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    so, post ep VII no more legends content i'm guessing?

    and yea, i can live with that.
     
  13. Jordan1Kenobi

    Jordan1Kenobi Force Ghost star 6

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    Let's do this :D
     
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  14. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Draft thread being put together right now!
     
  15. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Locked for the duration of the SWC's 23rd Jedi draft. Check it out!
     
  16. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Going to unlock and bump this to see if anyone is interested in reviving this game. Either with a vision to port it over to the EUC where it could continue on as before, or with the intent to leave it here and bring in the new canon.
     
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  17. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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    There's interest. ;)

    I say we just introduce the new canon characters into the game. I mean, in terms of Force users it's only Kylo Ren and Rey. Lords of the Sith just reinforces how awesome Vader and Sidious are. If I'm missing something else please add to whoever is also interested. In terms of Luke, well there would have to be a vote.
     
  18. DarkEagle

    DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, I think just adding the new stuff would be fine, at least for now. There might be one or two characters you'd want to clarify Legends vs New on (Depa?) but otherwise it all seems like it should fit fine.
     
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  19. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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  20. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    So, a couple of points to address

    1) I think the SWC should be the home of this draft. Even as it got more EU-centric before, it remained here. There's some heritage/legacy pieces. Plus, the EUC has always been home to the Starfighter Draft, SWC to the Jedi Draft. It's allowed to very similar games to have two very different feels, and I'd hate to lose that.

    2) I think we'll struggle to incorporate new (post-Disney) canon characters, such as Rey and Ren. They absolutely should be included. But, I don't think they'll be given much value is all.

    3) On the "Legends" vs "Canon" debate. As we don't have many characters who conflict (Luke, Leia ... that's about it, right?) ... I think Legends should be the go-to for characters. If I'm wrong (I haven't read any post-Disney books), we could label those characters and the GM could specify if they want the Legends version or the Canon version. I mean, I suppose the same could be done for Luke/Leia, but if you're opting into Luke who post ROTJ has hermiting vs. Luke who post ROTJ has Force Farts that can destroy planets ... well ... I'm not sure what to say to you.

    4) Points 2 and 3 will evolve in future drafts, obviously, but at this point, I see them as non-to-minimal issues.
     
  21. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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    I'd be happy to judge or run the draft with some help. Come on people I'd like this to happen again. It was fun.
     
  22. DarkEagle

    DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Couple of discussion thoughts:
    • What did people think of the "pick 2" mechanic from last draft? Was it fun? Interesting? Balanced? My $0.02 (I didn't play that draft) is to combine the tandem picks and the pick 2 into one pick 2 list just to offer players more flexibility (I don't think it would cause much power changes).
    • Legends v New EU. I like the idea of allowing players to pick which version for the few characters this is relevant for: Luke, Leia (not that the NEU version is any good for them), and I'd say Depa and Barriss (as we now have a method by which to deal with her contradictions). Thoughts? Did I miss anyone?
    • Preliminary thoughts on list additions:
    Kylo Ren
    Rey
    Kanan Jarrus
    Ezra Bridger
    Grand Inquisitor (Rebels)
    5th Brother
    7th Sister
    Lana Beniko
    Senya Tirall
    Arcann
    Vaylin
    Darth Marr
     
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  23. Millennium Falcon 888

    Millennium Falcon 888 Jedi Master star 4

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    Hello guys, Millennium Falcon 888 here and while I didn't take part in the last editions of this interesting game (having only joined you in January this year) but let me throw in my opinions with regards to the third point that DarkEagle posted... ^:)^

    I will go for Kylo Ren and Rey, when it comes to list additions... I have a feeling that this new hero-villain duo share some similarities in terms of backstory - if comments by some of you in the threads in "The Force Awakens" sub-forums are taken into play... And let's also not forget that since many of us outside of the USA are not too familiar with the SW Extended Universe side of things, we don't have that kind of familiarity to the other characters mentioned by DarkEagle unlike Kylo and Rey (especially the former, who has been so heavily marketed by Hasbro, Disney, etc. in their merchandise that he is now becoming a new iconic villain)! =D=
     
  24. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Guys, I absolutely will help with this. I thank Ken Kenobi for wrapping the last one.
     
  25. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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    Awesome heels1785 I was hoping you'd show.
     
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