TV Discussion SWTV Diversity Thread (Minor Spoilers Allowed)

some of you are being very dumb here on this last page

at the least you’re making ignorant comments about people who are not straight like you are, at worst you’re outright mocking people who are not straight like you are

 

That would be the work of Dr. Cornelius Evazan, I believe. He perfected a surgery that allowed subjects to survive without a head, just for kicks (and profit, since he ended up turning it into a line of lobotomized cyborg servants commissioned by Crimson Dawn.)

 

Yes that was at least how it was explained in Rogue One visual dictionary.

@starfish I don't think mocking anyone was anyone's intent. And it is just natural to be ignorant of things people don't have personal experience of. Droids are not real so do they count as couple at all is innocent joke IMO. In case of R2 and 3PO both happen to be droids with "male" personality so do they count as gay couple then is an innocent humorous question. It is not mocking anyone real IMO. We could as well ask if R2 had relationship with QT-KT or R4-P17 (droids with feminine programming) and it is just as absurd IMO and no one is laughing at straight people, but absurd idea of droids being sexual in the first place. So I don't think anyone there was mocking gay people with bad intent.

What comes to Tam Posla and Caysin Bog I was more surprised about headless person being capable of any relationship than them being gay. They sound like a cool couple though. Headlessness is the weird part to me

 

no it’s not, it’s a choice to be ignorant

sometimes it’s due to lack of access to information or different societal upbringings

but at some point it is up to the individual to inform themselves

 

I don’t know if I just completely misread that scene and the dialogue after with Gorn, but was the imperial guy with the wife and kid trying to flirt with the other man?

“What do you make of him?”
“Petigar? You won’t charm him, sir.”
“well, not for a lack of trying!”

 

He wants to charm him (that is, befriend him) in order to advance in his career, but I doubt he meant anything sexual/romantic.

 

Well, he's not getting that promotion, but at least his family won't be stationed on that planet anymore.

 

Pretty sure his wife and kid are still alive. They're just going back to their original home planet. Or they're homeless now

 

Well, nobody shot them, and the rebels who weren't killed all left except for Cinta, who wasn't the one guarding them, so... I think it's reasonable to assume they're alive? It's not like the rebels blew up the entire place, and they didn't kill anyone they didn't have to

 

did you see them killed?

 

The Partisans weren't involved. That's Saw's group.

 

I don't really see anything in that episode which suggests that Cinta killed them. The scenes just don't really allow for it. This is how the scenes play out:
- Cinta changes into Imperial gear, giving a quick glance to the hostages after shutting down the lights
- the hostages are looking at the Eye with no signs of Cinta still being around
- Cinta is already way down at the temple, indicating that she left some time ago

I don't see anything confident or satisfied in her look either, she looked rather stoic to me. She just walked down there that way, because other Imperials were in the area. The one thing she couldn't do was run to leave quickly, because that would draw attention to her. The Imperials outside had no working comms and no indication that something was going wrong. So she did what was obvious: act as if everything was normal and move as if she belonged there.

If anything, I'd say them showing the hostages for a moment is meant to make sure everyone understands that no harm was done to them. Otherwise, why bother?
If they had wanted to hint at the possibility of Cinta killing the hostages, they either would have given a clear indication that she was ready to do so, or left it more ambiguous by either not showing the hostages again after she looked at them, or, have shown her to be still in the room while the hostages were looking at the Eye. Neither happened.

I mean, I could understand having the idea that maybe she could have done it, but there is really nothing that supports a definitive claim, nor anything that makes it rather likely.

 

His wife and kid aren’t dead. This show is dark but no way Disney would do that.

anyway. I do love their relationship. And they managed not to fridge them immediately. Actually they did the opposite as they were the only characters without plot armor to die from the hiest team.

 

Killing hostages is a bad strategy anyway. You need your hostages to believe they'll make it out alive if they comply. Otherwise they have no reason to cooperate. Start killing hostages after the fact, future hostages won't trust you. You only kill hostages in the middle of the operation, when you need to prove a point.

 

Can't have bad word-of-mouth among the hostage community.

 

I'm also happy that Vel and Cinta are both still alive and well. It's about time we get some hope for a same-sex couple among supporting characters. I mean, it's not unheard of, but all too uncommon.

Then again, we're only halfway through the first season... But let's rejoice for the two lovers for the time being!

 

Jack Ryan.

 

How do you know about this so well

 

Right.... so basically, when you say a lot of people you mean a few people, who are of course entitled to their opinion, and who are not any official source actually saying that, they are just expressing how they see a quite subjective topic.

I agree with everything that you said other than the first sentence. I have always thought of Ahsoka as Native American myself, and thought it was pretty obvious too.

Regardless of any of that, race is a human construct. Ask any biologist who actually knows their science well enough, and they will tell you that. One more way to divide people, as if we don't have enough as it is. Alas, wanting to forbid someone to express the sentiment that they would like Ashley Eckstein to play the Ahsoka role, which she has literally already played, and she was the first one to play, is of very poor taste to me.

 

I have never once thought of the animated version of Ahsoka as being black in any way shape or form and have seen no evidence of her being presented as such. I'm black. I've always considered her a sassy little white girl.