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[TCG] Contested unique units rules clarification

Discussion in 'Archive: Games: CCG, TCG, and Boardgames' started by Bacabachaui, Jan 9, 2003.

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  1. Bacabachaui

    Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Here are the clarified rules for contesting unique units (such as Vader/Anakin):

    If both players have a unique unit with the same name in battle at any time during the battle phase, the two units are contested.

    When units are contested, players bid Force to win the contest. The bidding starts with the Dark Side player, who makes his or her first Force bid (of 0 or more). Then the Light Side player makes his or her first Force bid (of 0 or more). After that, bidding continues to alternate between the two players until neither player wants to raise his or her Force bid. Players can't bid more Force than they currently have.

    When the bidding ends, each player adds his or her unit's total build cost and final Force bid. (Total build cost includes +1 for each card stacked under the unit.) The player with the higher total wins the bid. (The Dark Side wins ties.)

    The winner of the contest pays Force equal to his or her final Force bid, and his or her unit stays in battle. The losing player pays no Force, and his or her unit retreats without tapping.

    If there is more than one pair of contested units, the Dark Side player chooses which pair to bid on first. - SWTCG Rules Team


    What do you all think of this? The way it was written before was causing confusion. For example:
    Player 1 with Vader build cost of 9 bidding against Player 2 with Anakin build cost of 5. If player 2 bid 5 force to keep Anakin in play, Player 1 (under the old rules) would have to pay the 5 force or raise it to keep Vader in play, which was not fair because they already have the higher cost unit out there. Now, the Player 2 in this scenario would have to bid at least 5 force (making their force and build cost 10) to exceed Vader's natural Build Cost total of 9

    I think it is awesome. The player with the high cost unit already spent enough game resource to not have to bid the force. Plus what if Player 1 only had 2 force left and Player 2 bid 3 to shut him out? They would get to keep weenie Anakin in for a total value of 8 when Vader's natural BC is 9.
     
  2. Artie-Deco

    Artie-Deco Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Aug 23, 2001
    Well, that's how I interpreted the rules to begin with....

    :)

     
  3. Bacabachaui

    Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I think that is what they meant originally and most of us realized that, but if you took the rule steps literally, a rules lawyer could argue the other situation.

    WotC said that this was added into the game right before premiere release, so they hadn't anticipated the writing of the rule to be so confusing.
     
  4. yodasoda2187

    yodasoda2187 Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    Sep 2, 2002
    I'm glad they finally cleared that up! There was a lot of confusion for awhile.
     
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