Amph The 2023 Box Office Blood Barbie

It just seems more like a cheerleading stat to me than a useful metric. I think people have argued in previous threads that a lot of the big numbers come from having strong tails while not necessarily holding onto the #1 slot. Are you arguing James Cameron is a unique exception to this received wisdom because he performs strongly enough out of the gate?

 

Um, no, I’m not arguing that. I’m just sharing some box office statistics that I found interesting . . .

 

Aww, no one ever wants to make high concept theories about the JCAM index.

 

I think @Bacon164 does.

 

I am what I am because of Big Jim.

 

If I *could* invest in it I would, seems like a safe bet

 

Eh, I really just need those safe futures to hedge my massive short of Secret Wars.

 

If I had to guess, I think Secret Wars will be a sub-$2bn movie, because no Robert Downey Jr, Chris Evans, Scarlet Johansson, Chadwick Bozeman, etc. Unless they’ve gotten roped back in? I haven’t followed it closely.

The formula for Infinity War/Endgame was, 1: biggest stars, 2: familiar roles for those stars, 3: franchise saturation to buildup interest. If you remove one of those elements, the formula doesn’t work, I would think. Wakanda Forever seemed to prove you need the characters and the big star that people like. In any case it will be an interesting health check for the franchise.

 

I think you just need a big boat and some romance

 

The MCU is rebuilding again. The next Avengers movie will be more the original movie with all the new phase 3 and phase 4 heroes thrown together,

The team up films were dealt a blow with Cadwick Boseman’s Black Panther gone. In North America at least he was breakout character of phase 3. We still have Thor and probably some part of the Guardians of the Galaxy left and Spider-Man.

Will be interesting to see Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, Ghost Knight, Kate Bishop, Ms.Marvel and whatever escapes TVA in an Avengers movie,

Also glad phase 4 skipped the team up movie. The phase doesn’t end with a definite chapter conclusion like the other phase which feels fitting to me after Endgame,

 

i dream of the end times

 

@Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid as you say, they’re rebuilding, the big question is, can they do it in time? I am skeptical, but who knows. Tom Holland/Spider-Man has put up impressive numbers, he might be enough. I don’t watch Marvel stuff anymore, so idk what’s working and what’s not

 

would be the saddest thing ever.

 

ALL THESE LOW RENT TEN HOUR MADE FOR TELEVISION MOVIES COMBINE LIKE VOLTRON INTO ONE MEDIOCRE TWO HOUR MOVIE

 

And yet in the Shelf of Shame I used Avatar 2 as my pick and of 19 People only like 3 have seen it. Leading me to wonder...

WHO IS SEEING THIS MOVIE?!

Besides @I Are The Internets, he doesn't count.

 

A2's domestic total vaults past Avengers into the all time top 10 not this coming weekend but the following. After that a very slow slog up the list toward Infinity war. Passing the combined release totals of Titanic both domestically and globally would be an amazing career achievement.

 

Most of Titanic’s total is in 1997/1998 money. Avatar 2 passing it is like a race car passing a horse.

No movie since Titanic has out grossed Titanic domestically adjusted for inflation. The Force Awakens came closest. The Way of Water isn’t going to make it.

 

right, adjusted for inflation Ava2r won't break the top 20 domestically. Star Wars 77, Gone With the Wind, ET and Titanic are way up there in terms of estimated number of tickets sold. I think it's fair though to leave that caveat out. It's implied, understood and mostly ignored.

 

Me. I have seen it twice. And the second time I convinced 4 people to come with me. That’s how avatar made money. It was people like me who were mildly lintrested convincing enough people to go see the film with them. The second time I went cause the movie theater is the only place I can get the slushy flavor I like lol.

 

I mean I saw the first film in theatres in 3D Imax and all that jazz.

That's specially why I wasn't interested in the second one until it's streaming somewhere for free.

The ride and land are great. They embrace the notion of "this is beautiful production design and a story you want to experience for 4 minutes".

 

Box Office Mojo isn’t even updating their adjusted for inflation list . Spider-Man: No Way Home isn’t on the list no Top Gun Maverick.


The Numbers all time adjusted list starts in 1977. It doesn’t even try to pretend they can accurately put movies released before that into a modern comparison.