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  1. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Do you enjoy playing Animal Crossing, but wish it included things like wRC+?

    Alternatively, do you like to think about time machines, cloning, and the space-time continuum while surfing baseball-reference.com and going down an uncountable number of rabbit holes or possibly even finding historical graves?

    If so, read on ... this just might be the game for you



    Have you ever dreamed of managing a baseball team where you could have Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron back-to-back in your lineup? Or maybe you want Ernie Banks turning two, while playing two alongside Brook Jacoby? Maybe you dream of a battery with Pedro Martinez and Chris Hoiles, or an outfield roamed by Mickey Mantle and Stan Musial? Have you dreamed of a game seven, with Walter Johnson facing Alex Rodriguez, with the game on the line? Imagined a team full of Roiders against a team featuring a guy with a serious case of Hemorrhoids? Maybe you want to reunite post season legends like Joe Carter and Orel Hershiser, or imagine post game press conferences with Ty Cobb and Curt Schilling? Perhaps you dream of Satchel Paige or John Donaldson striking out Cap Anson? Perhaps what you really hunger for is Phil Neikro taking the mound and being relieved by John Wetteland? Or, Maybe you just want to see how good Bob Gibson can be ...

    If any of those (or something similar) describes you ... good news. This is the Sorta Annual, Dynasty-Driven, basically-year-long game for you.

    This is our 11th Sports draft, and the second where we are using Out of the Park Baseball.

    But, just like the last few baseball drafts you are invited to build the best fake baseball team in history. But, good luck beating this ultra fake team:

    [​IMG]

    If you're somewhat new to this, I'd encourage you to go back and read the previous sports draft.


    The First NBA Draft, won by @EmpireForever (Able to draft any player any time)
    The Second NBA Draft, won by @tom (Limited to only players from the 2012-13 NBA Season)
    The Third NBA Draft, won by @tom (Back to any player, any time)
    The Fourth NBA Draft, won by @PRENNTACULAR (auction style Franchise Acquisition)
    The Fifth NBA Draft, won by @Point Given (all GMs must draft from the same franchise every round)
    The First College Football Draft, won by @LloydChristmas (any player from the modern era)
    The First Baseball Draft, won by @Point Given (All GMS must draft from the same franchise every round)
    The Second Baseball Draft, won by @Point Given (All GMS must draft from the same franchise every round)
    The Third Baseball Draft, won by @LloydChristmas (Free-for-all on drafting, mechanisms to carry players through to the next draft)
    The Fourth Baseball Draft, won by @LloydChristmas (Free-for-all on drafting, mechanisms to carry players from previous draft and into next draft, first use of OOTP, expansion into the Negro Leagues)

    The Participants:

    1) The Commish - That's me. I'm going to keep the draft going by moving along the selection process (see below), posting games, posting results, and generally keeping the game moving forward.
    2) The GMs - that's you. The fourteen of you. Maaaaaaybe more? New parties interested can express so in this thread until we announce we've reached the point you cannot. From there, each GM will assemble your team, put together lineups, and rotations, set strategies, and respond to the ebbs and flows in your attempts to win. You're really the owner, GM, and Manager of your team all in one. Or sometimes Shaq cosplays as you filling all those roles.
    3) The Peanut Gallery - that's people like @Juliet316. Vital to the game. You do things like make fun of dp, forget Addie Joss exists, and generally enhance my life by letting me know people care about the stuff I'm spending my free time on and reinforcing positive images in my head and helping me to fight off Imposter Syndrome.

    The Phases of the Game;

    ASSEMBLING YOUR ROSTER

    At the start of the game, every team is given the following assets:


    32 Draft Picks*
    $75 in Intybucks
    3 Keeper Slots

    *Expansion teams and non-playoff teams are given additional draft picks to help with competitive balance

    These assets are all tradeable, and can be used in each phase outlined below as appropriate.

    IntyBucks can be used for the following:

    • One additional Keeper slot (75) (only useable once per draft)
    • Scouting Reports (1/report) (note: every team will get a spreadsheet with batting, fielding, pitching, and individual pitch ratings once we hit Spring Training at no charge)
    • Sign a Free Agent (5/signing)
    • Send someone through the time machine (20)
    • Sending Nook (50)
    • View in-season team chemistry report (5) (note: I will send everyone a team chemistry report free of charge at the start and end of Spring Training)
    • Firing/hiring a new manager mid-season, including interim managers (5)


    There are Four methods for roster assembly:

    1) The Carryover from Previous Draft

    GMs who played last year and chose to carry-through were able to use mechanisms to carry over a number of players into this season. These are the foundation of the rosters. If you are new to this season, since you can't carry over players, you'll get additional draft picks. Which brings us to ...

    2) The Drafts


    Yes – TWO drafts this year! Because we're incapable of limiting ourselves around here.

    First, the typical draft …

    We will be doing thirty-two rounds of drafting in a snake-style draft. Each player in Major League Baseball History (American League, National League, Negro Leagues*, The American Association, the Union Association, the Players League, and the Federal League) and Minor League Baseball is eligible to be drafted and/or rostered once.(as an homage to the Jedi and Starfighter drafts, and their Anakin/Vader dynamic, we will allow two Babe Ruths - One Pitcher, One Outfielder. No other exceptions)

    If you would like to get scouting reports on player(s) you are considering drafting, requests can be placed in thread or via PM to the commissioner. They will be sent via PM, and each scouting report will cost $1 in Intybucks.

    Draft Order will be finalized based upon two draft lotteries. Expansion teams will go through a draft lottery and be slotted into the top slots of odd numbered rounds. Non-Playoff teams that return from the previous season will go through a draft lottery for the middle picks. Playoff teams that return from the previous season will be slotted at the end of even-numbered rounds based on final standings, with World Series winner picking last.

    *I think I’ve advanced my knowledge of OOTP this year that any Negro League player should be draftable. Just give me a heads up before drafting them to make sure I can locate them (or, if you own a copy of OOTP, just send me the playerID used in the game)

    When drafting a player, please use the following to make things easy on me:

    Name - Position (year) (Yes, this means you, Lloyd)

    The year is important as the OOTP simulator will look at the current year and two previous years (if possible) as well as player ratings in the database to determine performance level.

    Once this draft is final, we get to the International Draft. This will be two rounds, limitations to follow after OOTP 23 is released and the facts are known.

    3) Free Agency

    Once the draft is finished, we will open free agency.

    For the first 48 hours of free agency, we will use a waiver wire system, with the standard order from even numbered rounds being the waiver wire order for each claim. Once we are beyond that, it will be declared in the thread, and we will go to a first-come, first-serve claim basis for free agency.

    To sign a free agent will cost $5 in Intybucks.

    You must have a total number of at least 40 players on your roster; 25 on the active roster and at least 15 on the inactive/AAA roster. There is a link at the bottom of this post with the roster information.

    If you are unable to get to a total of 40 players when this phase comes to an end ...

    4) Inty Assignment

    I will assign players to your roster. Most of them will be on the level of terrible players I thought were good in my naive innocence growing up as a Cleveland fan, or perhaps worse and much worse. So, if you want to avoid Pat Tabler or something on your roster, you should avoid this being necessary. Though, I hope you don't.

    If you drop below 40 players at some point during the season (say, a 3-for-1 trade) and are unable to sign a new player with other mechanisms, you will be assigned a player via Inty Assignment.

    As the Commish, I also retain the right to do an Inty Assignment to a team with enough players, simply because it amuses me to have you assigned, say, Cecil Fielder to go along with Prince Fielder, or 54-year-old Minnie Miñoso to go along with a prime version of Minni Miñoso

    Once everyone is at 40 (or more) players on the roster, we are ready to move forward with the next phase

    SETTING OF BASE STRATEGIES

    There are both mandatory and optional strategies:

    Mandatory Strategies

    • Choosing a home ballpark. You can choose any ballpark that has been used in the AL/NL (current or historical) or design your own, provided it meets MLB guidelines for new ballparks.
    • Choosing a location. You can pick pretty much any city on the planet. You cannot be on the moon
      • Please note, if you want to use a location where Altitude might come into play with your stadium effects, please work with me ahead of time.
    • Choosing a nickname.
    • Choosing a manager. You can use a historical manager, or you can create your own - see this post in the third game thread to see the guidelines and options.
    • Setting a standard lineup vs. RHP and a standard lineup vs. LHP
      • Please note, there is no designated hitter, and you can bat the pitcher in any slot in the order.
    • Setting a standard rotation - you can pick a rotation of any size between a one-man rotation and a six-man rotation. You must also decide whether your rotation is strict order, strict with flexibility to allow higher rested, or to simply always start the highest rested pitcher in the rotation. You must also decide if you want to allow starting pitchers to pitch in relief.

    Optional Strategies
    • Setting a logo and/or brand colors for your team.
    • Setting a capacity and/or ticket prices for your stadium (if custom - historical parks will get their historical capacity, but you can still set ticket prices)
    • Naming your AAA affiliate
    • Assigning Depth Charts for each position (up to two backups, plus a defense-only sub). You can also set the depth-usage strategy, with options of Never, If Starter Tired, or every nth game, with n from 1-10, 12, 15, or 20.
    • Assigning a preference order for pinch hitters and pinch runners (in general, or vs LHP/RHP)
    • Assigning primary role (Closer, Stopper, Setup, Specialist, Middle Relief, Long Relief, and Emergency SP) and secondary role for any pitcher that can come out of the bullpen.
    • Set strategy for the following for general, and for close/late games (if you are interested in this, we'll talk about it, rather than make this post even longer):
      • Stealing Bases, Base-Running, Hit and Run, Sac Bunt, Squeeze play
      • Pitch around, Intentional Play, Use of Infield in, Use of Infield Shifts
      • Hook starters, Hook relievers, Favor L/R, pinch hit for pitchers, setting of max pitch counts, use of the "opener" strategy
      • Situations where you would use defensive substitutions and response to an opponent using an opener.
      • Note: Instead of hand-picking each of these, you can choose an over-arching strategy - traditional, balanced, small ball, moderate small ball, sabermetric, moderate sabermetric, tactician, moderate tactician and completely unorthodox.
      • Note: The setting for this season will be 1993, so all ratings for strategy are "relative" to average in 1993.

    For all Optional Strategies, you can simply not do it. In this case, we'll use the sim defaults and that's 100% okay.

    Once we’re all assembled …

    PLAYING THE SEASON

    First, we have Spring Training. At the start of Spring Training, you will receive a spreadsheet with batting, fielding, pitching, and individual pitch ratings as well as a team chemistry report.

    We will have a three-week Spring Training, with minor updates (including injuries) given at the end of each week, and each GM allowed to make adjustments to strategies, lineups, etc. for the upcoming week.

    At the end of spring Training, you will receive an updated Team Chemistry Report, and you will need to have your active roster trimmed to 25, with the remainder of players either on the DL, the inactive list, or at your AAA affiliate.


    We will play a 162-game season (plus All-Star festivities), with the league divided into two divisions.

    I will be posting a week at a time (a week in the game, not IRL - will be both slower and quicker depending on things). You can make adjustments or just let it fly with your standard lineups and pitching rotations. I will then do some weekly summaries, probably a game of the week, and provide major updates like injuries (weekly) and stats (monthly).

    A note about this sim: I can't control every individual game. I will do my best to ensure that your specific choices for specific games happen, but there is a non-zero chance that the sim/manager will overrule my inputs and go with something else. This happened a few times last season, but by and large, I don’t think it seriously impacted final standings; Just … be aware of it, and do your best to not bust my chops when/if it happens.

    At the end of the season .. the best teams will make ...


    THE PLAYOFFS

    The winners of each division, plus the four teams with the best records will make the playoffs. The four non-division winners will face each other in best-of-five series, with a 2-2-1 format. From there, a pair of 2-3-2 best-of-seven LCS series is followed by a 2-3-2 World Series. Lineups and strategy can be adjusted for each playoff game.

    The winner of the playoffs gets a prize given out by the mods - colors for I don't want to guarantee an amount of time, plus title. Bragging rights for-ev-er. And their name - okay, Star Wars Boards username - etched in the history books.


    THE CARRYOVER TO NEXT SEASON

    That's right. We're playing for keeps! Again.

    Everyone playing in this draft and continuing to the next season gets three keepers. Any three players (keeping in mind, if you have designated a player as your Franchise Player, you must carry them through as your Franchise Player) on your team you want to bring through and make sure you have them next season – they are yours to take. But, you can keep more … if you want to, that is.

    Cost of additional keeper slots, in terms of draft capital:

    +1: 1st and 2nd
    +2: 1st - 5th
    +3: 1st-10th
    +4: 1st-18th
    +5: 1st-31st​

    Note: Can purchase 1 (one) Keeper Slot for 75 Intybucks
    Note: Trading for a Keeper Slot will make it impossible to use another mechanism to get an additional keeper slot

    You can also keep fewer carryover players. If you want to keep only two, you’ll net an additional pick at the end of the third round in the next draft. Only want to keep one? You’ll net additional picks at the end of the second and third round, and if you don’t want to keep any, you get additional picks at the end of each of the first three rounds.

    Keepers is also a tradeable asset (noting the limit above). You can trade another team your right to carry a player (or two or three) as part of a trade. So are future draft picks. You can go to the trade deadline and offer up your first round pick next year to get that ace pitcher at the deadline! (Of course, if you trade away a future pick, you can’t use it to keep additional players … so plan your strategy wisely. Once your keeper train derails, you can’t get it back on the tracks).

    You also carryover any unused Allocation Money to next season, up to a maximum of 150 IntyBucks to start a new season.

    Anyone who plays and wants to play again in the sixth draft will be allowed to carry-through, and we will always allow Expansion Teams to join.

    And, with that long post out of the way ...


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    Useful Links (more to added by moderators later):

    Draft Five Rosters Spreadsheet
    Folder with Box Scores and Game Logs

    Draft 5 FODEUSS Player Stats.xlsx
    Draft 5 AAA Player Stats.xlsx
     
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  2. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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  3. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Pat Tabler was good actually.

    Amazing.
     
  4. mnjedi

    mnjedi JCC Arena Game Host star 5 VIP - Game Host

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    Important announcement from the Northern Shores Gales Of November: Having exited the time machine to find ourselves in 1993 we have decided to change our home field to match our new time period.

    That right, we’re moving into the dump of a stadium known best for its roof collapsing in real life as badly as our fake baseball team did last year.

    The Hubert H Humphrey Metrodome

    [​IMG]

    But hey, “we like it here” (tm)
     
  5. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SFTC VII + Deadpool BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    I hope Kimbrel gets drafted, so I can post this when needed:



    .
     
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  6. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I for one am excited to get to use the phrase "a double off the baggie fence" on IntyCenter this season
     
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  7. LMTShawn

    LMTShawn Jedi Knight star 3

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    Hi, everyone! I want to thank everyone for approving expansion teams this year and for my longtime pal Tyler for inviting me! I'm here to claim mine! Also, I feel like I'm an 80 year old Boomer, having not chosen an actual cool, hip username. ‍
     
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  8. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    welcome fellow 80 year old boomer!
     
  9. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Chosen One star 6

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    Hey, I'm a 35-year-old* millennial with a boring username based on my real name. Join the club. :p

    P.S. An 80-year-old today would not be a baby boomer, but part of the Silent Generation. #uselessfactoftheday

    *technically, not until Saturday
     
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  10. Wang Chi

    Wang Chi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Something I just thought of that probably won't be an issue, but I'm curious. Seeing as how Inty will likely upgrade to OotP 23 in time for the games to start, but any scouting reports we'd be getting up until that release will be from OotP 19... does anyone know if historical imports can been seen very differently by different versions of OotP?

    Example: 1907 was clearly the favorite Charlie Bender vintage of 19, but is there any chance that 18 thought differently, or that 23 might be like "Actually, we really like 1910 for him now"?

    Seems unlikely since the stats don't change, nor does it seem that the core aspects of OotP change from year to year, but worth asking I guess.
     
  11. RX_Sith

    RX_Sith Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  12. AutumnLight91

    AutumnLight91 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'll change the name of my park of Trust Field to Steel Rock Park.
     
  13. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Chosen One star 6

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    I will change nothing, other than sending my park through a time machine because it didn't exist until 2000.
     
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  14. mnjedi

    mnjedi JCC Arena Game Host star 5 VIP - Game Host

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    I realize I forgot to name the year of my keepers so I’ll do that now.

    Josh Gibson 1943
    Bob Gibson 1968
    Bert Blyleven 1973
     
  15. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    I refuse to post keepers until everyone else has. This is a line I’ve decided to draw.
     
  16. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Status Updates ahead of the Draft Lottery and Division Draw:

    Expansion Teams

    1. @jcgoble3 - Interstate 75 Orange Barrels
    2. @AutumnLight91 - Seorak Steel Tiger Cranes
    3. @Shawn Pischel - Name TBD

    Carryover Teams

    4. @mnjedi - Northern Shores Gales of November - Keepers (3) and years identified
    5. @RX_Sith - Game of Throws - Keepers (1) and years identified
    6. @AmazingB - Amazings - Keepers (4) and years identified
    7. @cubman987 - Let's Play Two - Keepers (4) and years identified
    8. @Wang Chi - San Francisco Six Demonbags of Chinatown - Keepers (4) and years identified
    9. @a star war - Newport Beach Motherboys - no keepers identified
    10. @heels1785 - Every City Bandwagoners - Keepers (3) and years identified
    11. @Point Given - Performance Enhancers - Keepers (3) and years identified
    12. @dp4m - Planescape Tormentors - Keepers unconfirmed at this time
    13. @tom - stone temple seattle pilots - Keepers (4) and years identified

    Status Technically Unknown

    @LloydChristmas - A Shaq of Their Own - but signs point towards not returning to the league next season

    Officially Defunct Teams

    @DarthTunick - Reseda Free Fallers
     
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  17. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    [​IMG]

    it would make it easier for someone else to win this season, but also so much less satisfying!

     
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  18. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    Wow, not giving wang a chance at redemption. Real coward hours in here .
     
  19. Wang Chi

    Wang Chi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Though, again, I strongly suspect this is all some elaborate pageantry to announce that he's not only managed to keep his top twenty players while giving up zero picks, but also somehow managed to gain three first round picks in the process. He's just rebranding the franchise to **** You, We Win.
     
  20. AutumnLight91

    AutumnLight91 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I plan on being at the zoom meeting
     
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  21. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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  22. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Chosen One star 6

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    I just got my dates mixed up and tried to log onto the Zoom call. :oops:

    I guess I'll see y'all tomorrow night instead.
     
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  23. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    [​IMG]

    ANNOUNCEMENT

    @LloydChristmas and @jcgoble3 have agreed to a trade

    • The Interstate 75 Orange Barrels receive Positionless Little Leaguer Deacon White, 30 Intybucks, and a 4th round pick
    • A Shaq of Their Own receive a supplemental 2nd round pick, a standard 3rd round pick, and a 4th round pick

    Related Transaction

    Interstate 75 Orange Barrels has spent 75 Intybucks to acquire a Keeper Slot, and are using that on Deacon White (along with spending 5 IntyBucks to pay the fee to keep him)
     
  24. Wang Chi

    Wang Chi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Fellow GMs, do not lose hope. Do not despair, no matter what other sorcery may come out of this pit.

    Just remember, if it weren't for that one Angel (Hernandez) in the Outfield... well...

    See ya'll at the lottery.[face_peace]
     
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  25. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Chosen One star 6

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    I'll figure out a year for Deacon before the draft starts.
     
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