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Arena The Baseball Draft Four - (Literally) Out of the Park

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthIntegral, Dec 21, 2020.

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NAME YOUR LEAGUE

Poll closed Dec 30, 2020.
  1. fodeuss. it's pronounced "fuh-doose" = "field of dreams expanded universe, starring shaq"

    53.8%
  2. Second Sorta Annual Neverending Dynasty League Of Twits. The SANDLOT.

    46.2%
  1. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral Baseball Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Much like Pud Galvin as the godfather of juicing belonged on the Performance Enhancers, Satchel Paige and his barnstorming belonged on Every City. =((

    Although ... [​IMG]
    There is another ... [face_whistling][face_whistling][face_whistling]
     
  2. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral Baseball Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A couple of notes ...

    1) Due to the nature of record keeping with the Negro Leagues, not all players will successfully import into OOTP. Generally speaking, the more info is on B-R, the better, but a bio and stats on B-R does not guarantee they will be able to be imported. Obviously, if I produce a scouting report, the player can be imported, but if you have a question about someone, you can simply ask if they can be and I'll check, no scouting report needed. I've had to refund a couple of scouting report requests on account of this.

    2) Since a number of folks have asked ... typically speaking, the magic number you want to look for in a shortened season is 150 at-bats. Higher than that, and the system will start to pro-rate (but possibly not give durability); lower and the system will weaken, no matter how good those at-bats were. For pitchers, 15 IP for relief / 60 IP for starters. However, I will warn that typically pitchers who don't reach the threshold of 100+ IP lack serious durability.

    Can a modly type put those to points in the OP?
     
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  3. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Done, put it in the relevant section
     
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  4. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga/JCC Manager star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Dec 10, 2003
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  5. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral Baseball Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Round 2

    1) pilots - Eric "Lord of Darkness" Gagne (Relief Pitcher, 2003)
    2) dp4m - Planescape Tormentors - Fred Dunlap (Second Base, 1929)
    3) Enhancers - Joe Mauer (Catcher, 2009)
    4) a star war - NEWPORT Beach Motherboys - Tom Seaver (Starting Pitcher, 1971)
    5) LPT - Cy Young (Starting Pitcher, 1901)
    6) Bandwagoners - Jacob deGrom (Starting Pitcher, 2019)
    7) GoT - Pud Galvin (Starting Pitcher, 1884)
    8) Demonbags - Jimmie Foxx (First Base, 1932)
    9) Amazings - Satchel Paige (Starting Pitcher, 1934)
    10) Gales of November - Eddie Plank (Starting Pitcher, 1909)
    11) Gales of November - Rod Carew (First base, 1977) (Unavailable to play on Yom Kippur, just FYI. yes the sim is that realistic)

    Round 3

    1) Gales of November - Mariano Rivera (Relief Pitcher, 2005)
    2) Amazings - Turkey Stearnes (Outfielder, 1926)
    3) Demonbags - Charlie Bender (Starting Pitcher, 1910)
    4) GoT - Guy Hecker (Starting Pitcher, 1884)
    5) Bandwagoners - Tony Gwynn (Outfielder, 1987)
    6) LPT - ON THE CLOCK
    7) Motherboys
    8) Enhancers
    9) Tormentors
    10) pilots
    11) Gales of November

    Round 4

    1) pilots
    2) Tormentors
    3) Enhancers
    4) Motherboys
    5) LPT
    6) Bandwagoners
    7) GoT
    8) Demonbags
    9) Amazings
    10) Gales of November

    Round 5

    1) Gales of November
    2) Amazings
    3) Demonbags
    4) GoT
    5) Bandwagoners
    6) LPT
    7) Motherboys
    8) Enhancers
    9) Tormentors
    10) pilots

    Round 6

    1) pilots
    2) Tormentors
    3) Enhancers
    4) Motherboys
    5) LPT
    6) Bandwagoners
    7) GoT
    8) Demonbags
    9) Amazings
    10) Gales of November

    Rostered Players by Position

    Starting Pitchers


    Addie Joss
    Doc White
    Ed Walsh
    Pedro Martinez
    Walter Johnson
    Christy Mathewson
    Clayton Kershaw
    Old Hoss Radbourn
    Roger Clemens
    Ron Guidry
    Bob Gibson
    Greg Maddux
    Sandy Koufax
    Lefty Grove
    Tim Keefe
    Pete Alexander
    Randy Johnson
    Bob Gibson
    Tom Seaver
    Cy Young
    Jacob deGrom
    Pud Galvin
    Satchel Paige
    Eddie Plank
    Charlie Bender
    Guy Hecker


    Relief Pitchers

    Dennis Eckersly
    Sean Doolittle
    Eric Gagne
    Mariano Rivera

    Regional Managers

    Mike Scott

    Outfielders

    Joe Dimaggio
    Carl Yastzremski
    Stan Musial
    Babe Ruth
    Barry Bonds
    Mike Trout
    Willie Mays
    Ted Williams
    Shoeless Joe Jackson
    Tris Speaker
    Kenny Lofton
    Mickey Mantle
    Ken Griffey Jr.
    Ty Cobb
    Hank Aaron
    Hugh Duffy
    Oscar Charleston
    Turkey Stearnes
    Tony Gwynn Sr.


    Infielders
    George Sisler
    Arky Vaughan
    John McGraw
    Nap Lajoie
    Honus Wagner
    George Brett
    Alex Rodriguez
    Lou Gehrig
    Hughie Jennings
    Rogers Hornsby
    Frank Thomas
    Ernie Banks
    Jackie Robinson
    Robin Yount
    Fred Dunlap
    Jimmie Foxx
    Rod Carew


    Catchers
    Mike Piazza
    Gary Carter
    Ivan Rodriguez
    King Kelly
    Josh Gibson
    Joe Mauer
     
  6. a star war

    a star war Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Just FYI OotP 21 is 75% off on Steam. $5.
     
  7. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Dec 12, 2006
    Is OOTP 21 noticably different than OOTP 20? I have the latter, but I'm good with hanging onto it since I usually use it for fictional leagues.
     
  8. a star war

    a star war Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I had 19 so I don't know what the difference is from 20, but it's noticeable from 19.

    I got it because I think they do a good job and if we're all going to be using their game to play our game, throwing them a $5 seemed appropriate.
     
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  9. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral Baseball Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Most of the enhancements from 20->21 are the progressions between seasons
     
  10. a star war

    a star war Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Was there a deadline for year changes?
     
  11. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral Baseball Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'll make a call for final roster submissions before Spring Training starts. After that, I'll import the final version of all players, and years will be locked.

    Speaking of Spring Training ... we should decide how long we want it to be. I currently have it set at two weeks, but we can go as short as one week, or as long as six.

    Besides giving you a chance to evaluate your team before games count in the standings, there are three things that Spring Training can do:

    1) Knock off rust. All players enter the new season with rust and need to get into regular season form. For each at-bat or inning pitched, some rust gets knocked off.
    2) Learning new positions. If you draft a player with the intention of playing them in a position they don't know and aren't rated for, they have to learn the position. While you can learn the position any time, it's easiest to learn in Spring Training (plus errors made won't impact your actual results). OOTP follows the concept of the "defensive spectrum." The defensive spectrum is as follows: DH - 1B - LF - RF - 3B - CF - 2B - SS. Generally speaking, the further to the right, the harder the position is to play and the harder it will be to convert a player to that position. Position players can learn to play catcher, but it often takes a very long time, and they typically don't make very good ones. Please Note: this applies to moving around the outfield as well. A career centerfielder who is gold-glove quality might struggle mightily in right field if not given the time to learn the nuances of the position.
    3) Injuries are more common in Spring Training, and the longer the Spring Training, the more likely someone is to pick up an injury - either a knock they carry through the season, something that causes them to miss the first month, something that ends their season, or something that ends their career.


    I'm fairly certain #3 exists just to make sure that always picking 6 weeks doesn't work to full benefit. I'm open to anything on the spectrum from 1-6 weeks, and will leave it to your discussion.

    Also - @cubman987 do you know it's your pick?
     
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  12. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Skywalker Saga/Fun&Games Mod star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Let's Play Two: managed by Joe Maddon and playing at the friendly confines of Wrigley Field.

    1B - Frank Thomas (1996)
    SS - Ernie Banks (1958)
    OF - Hank Aaron (1959)
    SP - Greg Maddux (1994)
    SP - Cy Young (1901)

    3rd Round pick: Yogi Berra, C (1950)

    @a star war
     
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  13. a star war

    a star war Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  14. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral Baseball Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ANNOUNCEMENT

    stone temple seattle pilots and Newport Beach Motherboys have agreed to a trade.

    @tom receives Billy Hamilton
    @a star war receives the 10th pick of the third round and the 2nd pick of the eighth round

    Round 3

    1) Gales of November - Mariano Rivera (Relief Pitcher, 2005)
    2) Amazings - Turkey Stearnes (Outfielder, 1926)
    3) Demonbags - Charlie Bender (Starting Pitcher, 1910)
    4) GoT - Guy Hecker (Starting Pitcher, 1884)
    5) Bandwagoners - Tony Gwynn (Outfielder, 1987)
    6) LPT - Yogi Bear (Catcher, 1950)
    7) Motherboys - Billy Hamilton (Outfielder, 1894) - TRADED TO stone temple seattle pilots
    8) Enhancers - ON THE CLOCK
    9) Tormentors - some guy with 31 at bats in a marginal league that somehow fits into the simulator database, probably
    10) Motherboys (from pilots)
    11) Gales of November

    Round 8

    1) A Shaq of Their Own
    2) Motherboys (from pilots)
    3) Tormentors
    4) Enhancers
    5) Motherboys
    6) LPT
    7) Bandwagoners
    8) GoT
    9) Demonbags
    10) Amazings
    11) Gales of November
     
  15. Wang Chi

    Wang Chi Jedi Master star 4

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    Aww, Billy my boy.... Remember what we talked about if you got picked up by dp? Let's go ahead and extend that to the pilots.

    May he bring you nothing but success, tom. :)
     
  16. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Might've lost out on Seaver and deGrom, but there's still one elite Mets pitcher, and this one put the drugs in performance enhancing drugs!



    C: Joe Mauer (2009)
    SS: Alex Rodriguez (1996)
    LF: Barry Bonds (2001)
    CF: Mike Trout (2018)

    SP: Old Hoss Radbourn (1884)
    SP: Pete Alexander (1915)
    SP: Doc Gooden (1985)

    @dp4m
     
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  17. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He really is the worst.

    Amazing.
     
  18. dp4m

    dp4m JCC Playoff Pick 'Em Winner, Also a Narc star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    [​IMG]

    The Planescape Tormentors

    Kept Men: Walter Johnson - SP (1913), Christy Mathewson - SP (1908), Clayton Kershaw - SP, (2014) Dennis Eckersly - RP (1990), King Kelly - Yes (but C) (1886)

    DRAFT PICKS:

    1) <keeper slot)>
    2) Fred Dunlap, 2B (1884)
    3) Lou Boudreau, SS (1948)

    @a star war
     
  19. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I thought it was @tom 's turn

    Did I outnarc the narc?
     
  20. dp4m

    dp4m JCC Playoff Pick 'Em Winner, Also a Narc star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    There was a trade.
     
  21. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Can't outnarc the narc
     
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  22. a star war

    a star war Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Why do you hate me, specifically?

    and now Lou is gone as well. This deal is getting worse all the time!
     
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  23. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    There was no way you're gonna get two Mets pitchers with myself and B playing.
     
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  24. a star war

    a star war Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    May 4, 2016
    DirectorKrennic.jpg
     
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  25. tom

    tom Chosen One star 7

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    Mar 14, 2004
    she would have had two mets pitchers if she hadn't traded down!

    [​IMG]