Arena "The Beautiful Game" - The Official JCC Football (Soccer) Thread.

I'm so torn, because on the one hand, I'm not big on chants directed against the opposition, but on the other hand the fans' decision to set "Ole's at the Wheel" to "Give It Up" is just so ****ing catchy. I've been watching YouTube videos of it all day.

 

It's too good for them not to do it, 44toons can't be hated.

Although, is the guy mocking Neville who looks like Roy Keane supposed to be Carragher?

 

Yeah it certainly didn't sound like Keane.

But I don't think it's a good imitation of JC

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/man...h-in-solskjaerconte-eyed-as-successor-sources

"Although ESPN has been told the atmosphere around the club is nowhere close to being "as toxic as it was under Mourinho," the defeat to Liverpool has cast an air of resignation around Old Trafford about Solskjaer's future as manager.

ESPN has been told that Solskjaer's inability to solve the team's defensive problems, his apparent "favouritism" of underperforming players and reluctance to hand opportunities to Jesse Lingard, Donny van de Beek & Nemanja Matic has led to some players openly criticising the manager to teammates while on international duty.

Sources also said that senior players have become exasperated by Solskjaer's failure to impose his authority on United's misfiring forwards.

One source cited the lack of understanding between Cristiano Ronaldo and Mason Greenwood as being down to Solskjaer and his inability to force the pair to link up more convincingly. Teammates have noticed that the pair rarely pass to each other in attacking positions and that Ronaldo is becoming visibly irritated by his young teammate's decision to shoot rather than pass in goal-scoring positions"

So basically...


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Having watched entirely too many of these cartoons after following up on recommendations, sometimes the impressions are way off just because of some old jokes. For example, Messi talks with a tired English accent because in 2014 he was in a Harry Potter bit.

 

Huge rumours doing the rounds that United have opened talks with Conte.

Its obvious and an easy one to throw out but I've seen a few reputable accounts on twitter (and talksport) suggest it.

 

Fabrizio says no.

 

United can contact a manager without sacking a manager first.

He clearly states that Conte wants it but United haven't made a decision yet

The noises in general are up there when a manager gets the boot. He May make it to the Spurs game but I have a niggling feeling he may be gone tomorrow.

I won't swear on it as I don't know but based on how sackings have gone in the past, United sleep on it for day before making a decision

Moyes was well telegraphed, with Van Gaal we knew the final was his last match win or lose and with Mourinho we saw it coming a couple of months prior and the buzz was a loss at Liverpool would seal it

Solksjaer MAY make it to the weekend but he won't make it much further.

 

At least until after the City game, if United get spanked then and lose to Spurs they might do something.

Or if they lose in the CL group and don't get into the next round.

The big issue is the players, so long as they're still with him he may well stay in place.
If the players make it clear they've lost faith in him the board will have to act

 

United lost to spurs 6-1 but had a poor side. Solskjaer had fan support in the bank but had been looking capable in the weeks prior

this time, they've lost to their arch rivals, they've spent a lot of money on some good players to an extent that at the start of the season, people spoke of them as possible challengers but the performances this year have been dismal, there a rumours of significant discontent behind the scenes including players questioning Solskjaers ability and to top it all off, he's now losing the fan base.

He'll be gone before the winter transfer window and I'd be surprised if he made it to December.

United nexts fixtures
Spurs away - Loss or draw most likely
Atalanta away - loss or draw most likely
City home - loss
Watford away - Win probably but they struggle against this type of team so a draw is feasible
Villareal away - loss
Chelsea away - loss

Thats my prediction with Solskjaer in charge.

The board will make a similar projection. You keep him throughout November and you're out of the CL and the league is long gone.

You bring in an Elite manager and you may salvage progression in the CL and improve in the knockout stages and you may stable the ship in time to maintain top 4

With Solskjaer, this is unlikely to be the case

 

Unless he somehow gets a coaching staff overhaul in the next few games

 

He’s a dead man walking. If the Tottenham game doesn’t do it, City definitely will.

 

Rich :rose

I’m glad you’re finally on board with what I said from day one. Ole is ****. I won’t be crowing as I was if you get Conte.

so may long Ole reign!

P..S Klopp was the only manager to speak out against The abhorrent new Newcastle owners. It says much about him and a great deal about the rest.

 

No, I’m not.

for some reason: work from home=not commuting two hours a day=working four more hours a day.

fml

 

He won’t listen. Any more than rich will accept Alec Ferguson’s Manchester United is not the same as Manchester United; one is a success, the other just thinks it is.

 

I don't think anyone thinks current United is successful.

 

They'd play better without McFred, still no chance of winning the league without a top quality DM brought in.

I said Ole would be gone by Christmas if he didn't get one and fix up the midfield.

 

JFC. But long may it continue.

edit: I hate to say it, because I obv dislike him, but @Ramza please weigh in.


@Darth Punk better to be a Japanese POW than a…..oh do **** off.

 

Realistically, like any top club in the Premier League, Man U should be measuring success in terms of finishing in the top four, since the sorting in those positions can come down to luck. From this standpoint they're still a very successful club, and Ole has done a good job at maintaining a squad that can reasonably expect that level of success. The random element can then be mitigated with good tactics, and I think that's specifically where Ole comes up short compared to the likes of Klopp and Pep.

Unrealistically, of course their failure to secure silverware is evidence of grievous structural issues, and the best remedy would be to replace Ole by putting Ronnie at the wheel. #Koeman2ManU get it trending.

 

Well he did well at Everton & Netherlands jobs.

But you're right, United's problem is structural

https://www.espnfc.com/manchester-u...glazers-as-apathy-and-low-standards-take-hold

Standards are set by those in charge and have been slipping since SAF left.
Pretty much like what happened at Arsenal