Discussion in 'Archive: Census and Games' started by Mikaboshi, Sep 27, 2006.
Galactus, Aegis and Tenebrous should all be in And Beyonder and Eternity and the Spectre!
Well if we are going to do this right, we can't forget Mad Jim Jaspers and Hyperstorm.
Okay well, in actuality I'm all for Strange, Molecule Man, Exiles Hyperion, and Vulcan.
And you know what, Mephisto isn't all unbeatable outside his own domain. He's pretty on par with Surfer and Thor, both of whom have stalemated him in his realm. As a matter of fact I can't say I've heard of Mephisto ever beating Thor, though he did empower someone to beat Surfer. So I really wouldn't say he or Blackheart is too powerful for this draft.
What about Killer Frost, she'd be good, as well as Star Sapphire, to beef up the evil RL list that is pretty lacking. Shadow King as well, just give him the body he started with and he's an evil high-level TP user.
ZOMG TOO MUCH POWER
I say we add Mr. Mxyzptlk.
Add to RL?
Green Lantern (Guy Gardner)
Volcana (Marvel?) or (DC?) or (Both?)
Ant-Man (Scott Lang)
Ant-Man (Eric O'Grady)
Remove or Demote to RL
Jack of Hearts
Kyle to the Ion born from Jade's powers?
Allow the current status of Annihilus to be used.
Sentry: I agree, he is far more well defined now than ever before.He's still up there, but isn't the uber team buster we all once thought him to be.
I'm actually all for the seeming balancing out that these additions brings. It upgrades the first rounders and, at the same time, doesn't completely downgrade the second and third rounders. Vulcan isn't unbeatable, if we take him at his current level where Gladiator eventually subdued him. King Hyperion also isn't a team buster, though he does become the strongest Hyperion and a nice addition to evil teams. Dr. Strange can get punked by prepped Non PL and won't gain that much neccessarily in teams. And then we are limiting Ion to being the current, not the one from before. But lets continue discussion. Look over this list, see if there is anything I missed, and get a clear consensus on things.
Joker at peak should get Batmite's powers!
Vulcan isn't unbeatable, if we take him at his current level where Gladiator eventually subdued him.
sure, but only after he had just completely owned the rest of the royal guard. Plus that little confidence thing with Gladiator, I don't know how you could be confident after seeing your team go down like that though.
How about Zombie galactus hulk?
The way I read it, Vulcan easily beat the rest of the guard and then Gladiator just PWNED him. Vulcan I recall was very surprised he hadn't taken out Glads, and he didn't seem tired in any way from the guard. And then yeah... Gladiator seems to have a better hold on his confidence than he used to.
I think King Hyperion could bust some teams... But they'd have to be bad. I would say add Wendigo but I dunno how much info is out on him. Oh yeah, split Gorgon into Gorgon and Gorgon (Tomi Shishido).
OOH OOH add The Wrecker, if he's not there already.
Hmm, Spider-man capturing Iron Man in webbing definitely ups him in my book. It was pretty cool.
The way I saw it Vulcan had a few scrapes and a tattered costume. I think he was barefot, as well. I don't know if I would call that completely unscathed. Maybe I'm thinking of something else though.
Oh, Mr. Terrific?
Would Genis or Mar-vell be too much?
From what I saw of the fight, Vulcan walked through all of Shi'ar's defenses. He completely humbled the Guard, and then faced Gladiator.....of which here are the final 2 scans....
And this is unrelated but funny....
He battles Doctor Strange, and you may already have him, but how about adding Dormammu to the PL?
Yeah, like I said, he seems to be torn up from something. I guess he wasn't barefoot though. Why was his uniform all torn up?
I wouldn't disagree with it.
EF: I am not sure why he is looking that way, I wasn't able to read all of that fight.
However, the captain of Vulcan's ship had deceived Vulcan as to the Guard's true strength, hoping to use him as a pawn in Vice-Chancellor K'Tor's plan to restore the old Empire; as a result, Vulcan was unprepared for the true power of the Guard, and especially their leader, Gladiator. Vulcan killed several powerful guardsmen in combat (Titan, Neutron, Cosmo, Smasher, and Impulse, among many others), but was defeated by Gladiator (who also managed to damage Vulcan's left eye), and taken to a prison moon.
So it looks like he wasn't ready for them, kicked their tails anyway, but then got owned by Glads. Impressive showing for him actually.
I think you guys should add me to the list.
I'm nasty when prepped correctly.
this from the guy who wants to get Parallax and Sinestro on one team.
Well, Parallax is an entity. i'm not referring to evil HJ. I'm referring to the entity. The one who powered Sinestro's ring...
You understand what i mean though, right?
So we gonna round things up, and get on with the next then or shall we have a picnic?