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Discussion in 'Community' started by GrandAdmiralJello , Nov 4, 2016.

  1. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    ITT we discuss the greatest and most expensive Netflix series ever made, about Her Majesty the Queen.

    I've only seen the first episode so far, but it's glorious. I expect nothing less from the mind behind The Audience and The Queen.

    Oh, and even though it's historical fiction, let's use spoiler tags for the first two weeks. Thanks!
     
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  2. Coruscant

    Coruscant Chosen One star 7

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    Tbh, I'm a bit surprised you're watching, Jello. You of all people don't think it's tasteless and disrespectful to Her Royal Highness or something?
     
  3. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Giving Her Majesty The Queen the incorrect style of address is what's tasteless and disrespectful. :p

    I'm a little worried about portraying private moments, but it's clearly fictionalized. It's not an unauthorized biography. And as I've said, I greatly enjoyed the two predecessors to this series: particularly THE AUDIENCE.


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  4. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Didn't realize it had just dropped. I am fairly busy this weekend, but maybe I'll try to start it.

    Seeing Matt Smith pretend to be posh should be entertaining in itself.
     
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  5. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    More expensive than House of Cards and Marco Polo? No wonder Netflix needs 3 billion dollars in debt to finance its originals.
     
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  6. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Netflix has huge episode budgets for most of its shows. Like unreal budgets. Some of their half hour shows have bigger budgets than hour long network shows.

    And doesn't do any product placement deals to offset it. When you see a Coke ad in Stranger Things, that's not paid for by Coke: it's something Netflix actually paid Coke to license.
     
  7. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    im surprised youre okay with katy perry playing the queen, jello

    matt smith was a good choice because he's at least horse-faced enough to believably play a royal
     
  8. Kiki-Gonn

    Kiki-Gonn Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I as considering starting this just today as I finished Daredevel S2. Want to catch up on some documentaries and movies first.
     
  9. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I like Clair Foy. She does a decent imitation of the queen's accent.



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  10. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    to each their own. doesnt look german enough to be believable to me
     
  11. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    You seem to think that the whole German thing bothers me. I'm not a 20th century Englishman. I don't care. :p


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  12. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    im mostly pointing out that the house of windsor née saxe-coburg and gotha are super weird-looking even for brits. not that i think you care about that either
     
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  13. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, that's just plain wrong.


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  14. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's pretty great - 8 episodes in. One the most interesting portrayals of the Duke of Windsor ever. Great, great writing across the board.
     
  15. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    On the second episode. I like it a lot so far, especially the costumes and scenery, but some of the exposition is hilarious. I know it's for the audience but still:

    "That's Attlee, our Prime Minister."

    And Elizabeth not knowing what a regnal name was:

    "Your father was George, obviously his name was Albert."

    I'm glad random secretary told Elizabeth what her father's name was!
     
  16. slightly_unhinged

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  17. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I think much of the point of that exposition was on behalf of international (read: American) audiences who would've been broadly ignorant of the process by way of distance. I'm reasonably sure since Elizabeth II's reign name was the same as her birth name, there might be an impression labouring out there that it was always the case and when Charlie eventually does take the throne he'd be King Charles. Now, he may well be because of his mother's choice but it's not forgone, and that needed to be clear.

    It was eerie how much the actor playing the 1st Earl Attlee looked like him.

    also Maik. You sound as derivative as Wocky.
     
  18. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    FWIW I think Charteris did posit the regnal name question to her at that time and if Antony Jay is to be believed then yes, a civil servant would ask a question of someone and couch it with a degree of exposition and context that assumes the person being asked the question is a total imbecile.

    I've finished it now and it's just flat out a great show.


    Considering it's all built on superstition and the only name that started out badly and managed to rehabilitate itself is Mary, maybe it's not the best idea, much as I'd prefer him to be Charles III. Maybe it'd be fitting in the long run...
     
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  19. DebonaireNerd

    DebonaireNerd Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I just added this to my list but then saw they also added The Expanse. I'm going to see that first before this. But, looking forward to it.
     
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  20. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Richard is a pretty unlucky name too. Richard I heavily taxed England for the Crusade and then again when he had to pay his ransom to the HRE. Then he died in a minor rebellion. Richard II was deposed due to his tyrannical nature and starved to death, and of course we have Richard III
     
  21. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    As I understand it, Charles is keen to avoid comparisons with both Charles I and Charles II, and is expected to go for George VII.

    So the exposition is probably somewhat necessary given the international audience Netflix has.

    Also, I loved seeing Prince Charles from The Queen as the Duke of Windsor aka former King Edward VIII.
     
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  22. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Finished. It was a delight through and through, and I'm very pleased. Bring on season two (which is currently filming).
     
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  23. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Force Ghost star 6

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    Finally, a Netflix show that my wife and I can watch together. Took me a while to remember that Mr. Abdicator actor played his character's grand nephew Prince Charles in "The Queen."
     
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  24. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    So the actor who plays Martin the private secretary also is the British male Inquisitor in DA:I, GrandAdmiralJello and Ender Sai
     
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  25. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Richard the Lionheart was still seen as being a ripping dude when the Black Prince named his second son but yeah, on the whole they stink.

    Henries and Edwards are a real mixed bag too. As are Georges.

    If you ignore Rufus I guess Williams go OK. Ish.