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"The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural"

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by GrievousKiller, Jul 11, 2005.

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  1. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There is nothing unnatural about force lightning.
    I bet half of the jedi in the council could do it but are afraid to turn.
    The only powers that seem unnatural are Plageius's powers.
    What other powers do the sith have that are actually unnatural?
     
  2. inkswamp

    inkswamp Jedi Master star 3

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    It seems to me that Lucas hints in ROTS at several unnamed dark side powers. Palpatine apparently has the ability to cloud the vision of the Jedi which is possibly a dark side ability considered to be unnatural. Also, many have moaned about the ease with which Palpatine takes out the three Jedi accompanying Mace Windu during his attempted arrest, but I think Palpatine is capable of some kind of dark side version of the Jedi mind trick where he can throw an opponent off for a crucial split-second. There is the issue of Palpatine's appearance too. Does he have some dark side ability to change his appearance or mask his true form from others?

     
  3. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    "The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see, the future is." Master Yoda TPM
    He said that when they were testing anakin.
    Anakin could've been the source for that too.
    Secondly, the three jedi that palps takes out were unaware that he was that good.
    Palps also uses a form IV in lightsaber combat where he uses speed to outmamuever his opponents.
    Laastly, his scarred appearance is due to the lightning that mace deflects, not the force
     
  4. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see, the future is." Master Yoda TPM


    He said that in AOTC, not TPM.
     
  5. MasterP

    MasterP Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    There is more to the dark side than just Force lightning.
     
  6. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    What others?
     
  7. SAND-CRAWLER

    SAND-CRAWLER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yellow Eyes.
     
  8. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Oh yeah

    [face_laugh]
     
  9. Scorch62Delta

    Scorch62Delta Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Force Choke

    Not really unnatural though
     
  10. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Both force choke and force lightning are moves probably half of the jedi council could do.
    The only thing im convinced is unnatural is the yellow eyes
     
  11. Darth_Muffins

    Darth_Muffins Jedi Padawan star 4

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    To get darkside powers such as force lightening, you have to manipulate the force to get them. Manipulating the force brings the force out of balance because the force was not meant to be used in these unnatural ways.
     
  12. robbie_wan_kenobi

    robbie_wan_kenobi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    saving someones wife from certain death could be considered 'unnatural' ;)

    i think it was just another line leading to his masterplan of turning anakin
     
  13. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Usually, the important lines in the movie, you have to read between the lines
     
  14. robbie_wan_kenobi

    robbie_wan_kenobi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    not really......... unless your trying to read to much into it [face_batting]
     
  15. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ha ha ha, very funny

    So far, for the unnatural abilities, i have yellow eyes.
    anything else from the EU?
     
  16. yoshifett

    yoshifett Jedi Knight star 5

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    It's all about extending life or creating life using the force. This is considered to be "unnatural" as opposed the Jedi acceptance of death and transcendence into the force.
     
  17. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    the only person who knew how to do that was Plageius and sidious if he was his apprentice.
     
  18. Count-Tyranus

    Count-Tyranus Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Here is another dark power:

    In Dark Rendezvous Dooku uses the force to painfully expand Assajj Ventress's blood vessals. I assume if he can expand them, he can pop them.

    Very nasty use of the force.
     
  19. robbie_wan_kenobi

    robbie_wan_kenobi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    lol...... why go to the trouble of fighting someone with a saber when you can just 'pop there blood vessells!!'[face_dancing]
     
  20. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Dark Rendezvous is a comic, right?
     
  21. robbie_wan_kenobi

    robbie_wan_kenobi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    ..... it is a comic with a pathway 'some' consider to be unnatural
     
  22. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    [face_laugh]
     
  23. yoshifett

    yoshifett Jedi Knight star 5

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    See, if we take the powers of the force to their logical end, Jedi and Sith could do things like make people's hearts explode in their chest. Thus, the danger of following EU sources.

    The abilities that Palpatine was refering to was total bait - cheating death - which some consider to be unnatural because as Yoda says "Death is a natural part of Life" or something like that.
     
  24. GrievousKiller

    GrievousKiller Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Eu scares you, doesn't it.
     
  25. robbie_wan_kenobi

    robbie_wan_kenobi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    As yoshi said, its the extending/saving life that he is talking about, whereas the jedi accept it.
    if your talking about actual powers that are unnatural, i think jumping really high, mind tricking people, making things move without touching them for example, are pretty unnatural arent they, or are they everyday things i dont see?!?!?! (so the dark side would be no different to the light)
     
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