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A/V The EPISODE IX - Rise of Skywalker - Thread - Untagged Spoilers Allowed!

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ghost, Mar 1, 2018.

  1. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Master star 4

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    Ignoring track titles, I've listened to the score. Its extremely generic, aside from at least two returning themes from the OT. The promise of having a lot of familiar Prequel music is not here, it follows the trend of the Sequel Trilogy scores being incredibly forgettable. I actually like the scores for Solo and Rogue One, and its ironic because those are the ones NOT done by John Williams, and we know him as the one who made Star Wars alive through music. Third movie in, its been lacking. Extremely so.
     
  2. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Master star 4

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    Bearing in mind it's not the actual soundtrack album we'll be getting next week. The For Your Consideration versions have tended to miss out established themes before, to focus on the original material. I believe there've been issues in the past with things like Black Swan not being eligible for "Best Score" because it was derived from previous material to such an extent. I'd say that's partly why there's no Main Theme or Finale on the FYC score, and certainly there's other tracks/themes missing.

    John Williams's brother already confirmed several themes we've not heard on this, and it's only 50 minutes in total, too; so we've got anywhere up to another 90 minutes of music yet to hear.
     
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  3. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Master star 4

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    Hopefully. I mean, just because I don't like the ST as movies so far doesn't mean I don't want to see a great movie in RoS and listen to a great soundtrack in relation it. So hopefully none of my worst fears get realized in regards to this movie.
     
  4. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Master star 4

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    The FYC soundtrack is not complete. The main theme isn’t even in there.


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  5. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Master star 4

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    Nor is the eight-minute reprise of The Adventures of Jar Jar, sadly.
     
  6. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 6

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    I think it's the opposite for me. Whenever there's a movie I'm looking forward to, I just sorta put it to the back of my mind, let the hype stew, and I start to think that it'll never be released. Then when I'm sitting in the theater and the lights are going dark, I'm all thinking "Ahhh! I'm not ready for this."
     
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  7. DarthTalgus

    DarthTalgus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    (Palpatine) I have been every voice (Snoke) You have ever heard (Darth Vader) Inside your head
     
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  8. starfish

    starfish Force Ghost star 5

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    McDiarmid is fantastic
     
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  9. boomx2sjk

    boomx2sjk Jedi Master star 2

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    So per that clip, Palps has been manipulating everything behind the scenes with Ren. The Vader thoughts. Snoke. Everything. I dig.
     
  10. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Who let Sinre write the screenplay?!
     
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  11. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Wait.

    Snoke is Palpatine?

    Are we really going to just accept this?

    What are these last three films about? Kylo's journey of redemption or Rey's journey towards becoming a Jedi while overcoming her dark past? Don't say both because you can't have two primary journey arcs in a film series without it becoming unfocused at the end. As someone pointed out, there was no attempt at forming a relationship/rivalry between Rey and Palpatine. It's just going to look like it comes out of nowhere because it mostly does( except for TLJ comments about her going towards the dark)

    Here's a shout out t oall those 2015 Snoke theories: Snoke IS Palpatine. lol

    I feel like Belloc after they opened the Ark and all that was in it was sand. Hope we don't all melt next.

    lol so awful.
     
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  12. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I continue to be delighted by everything coming out about this movie.
     
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  13. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Master star 4

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    Palpatine isn't Vader, but Palpatine's also taking credit for Kylo hearing his voice. Perhaps wait and see the full context, because...there is more context.
     
  14. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Jedi Master star 4

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    Woah... I love how that place looks... I hope its not always too dark but with every lightning flash we saw giant statues and impressive locale. I wonder how ancient it is and how it ties to the history of the galaxy, Jedi, Sith, Ach-To and else. Definitely got Mortis vibes there!


    also I think the leaks that talked about a giant floating cube are half right only... this thing looks to me like the Mortis Monolith, not a cube. During one lightning flash I can see the angled sides. Need to get a screenshot to proof it but definitely convinced me that it is some site/temple with a floating Tho Yor / Mortis Monolith on top!




     
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  15. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Master star 4

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    Okay, Palpatine is terrifying. I feel like ever since Disney took over, they've really gone out of their way to just make him so much more of a sinister presence. His appearances in Rebels were terrifying, the whole Contingency **** and now this creepiness? This dude needs to get ****ed because he's WEIRDING ME OUT, MAN I CAN'T TAKE IT.
     
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  16. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    I agree that the lack of any development between Rey and Palpatine is a major issue here. The "your relative was evil so maybe there's evil in you" trope has been done to death, and Rey's shown even less inclination of going dark than Luke did at her age. There's no suspense or revelation there.

    Rey's obsession with anonymity in the previous film was unique. The found the mirror scene to be very eerie. Rey (and the audience) expects some answer to her heritage, maybe a revelation that she's someone important, and just sees herself for eternity. Her past present and future are only what she sees in the mirror looking back at her.

    Fighting Palpatine is too easy. Nobody's fooled Rey could become Palpatine. If Rey showed the tendency to be a diabolical creep sometimes, sure, maybe there would be a chance she could go dark. Then she'd have something in common with Palps. But right now there's nothing. Especially because Palpatine put all his persuasion eggs in another basket...case. (which does make me think this is ultimately more Kylo's story than Rey's in the end)
     
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  17. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Jedi Master star 4

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    Imagine Ian McDiarmid in a Star Wars theater play live on stage... the music, light effects and atmosphere... lots of hidden speakers may make it sound as it his voice is close to you or could come from any direction.
     
  18. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Knight star 4

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    and he still gets layed and makes Rey's father with a woman
     
  19. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Jedi Master star 4

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    It sure is Kylos story all along... Rey was just distraction, misleading JJ style. I told people that since TFA and nobody listened to me. Nobody believed the hero would be the villain. Or vice versa.

    Like with everyone thinking Poe is part of the new Big Three... he is not, that is Kylo, Rey and Finn. Poe was slated to die in TFA and saved due to being too cool. Like Han in the OT.
     
  20. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Jedi Master star 4

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    [​IMG]

    So certain are you that was how it happened? There are many ways to.. get offspring... some considered to be unnatural!
     
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  21. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 4

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    It's not Kylo's story and never will be. Poe is a member of the New Big Three, old drafts aren't canon. Kylo is hated by almost everyone on here and most fans in the real world. Even the poster you're responding to hates him (I think). Just a few pages ago, @Barriss_Coffee expressed her desire to have Kylo beaten to a pulp by 9's villain, and I literally had to explain why that makes no sense in-story and that such a scene would .

     
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  22. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Knight star 4

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    come on we both know how many woman threw themselves at sheev in legends :p but u might be on to something
     
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  23. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 4

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    The Darth Plagueis novel did portray young Palpatine that way. I always felt that the Sith dealt with their hormones quickly and early on (also Githany in the New Sith Wars with Kiel Charny, Darth Malgus with Eleena Daru, the Krath, etc.) so that later on their hormones had no control over them because they already dealt with it to excess, and they moved on to more important things in life like the Dark Side (the only thing worth living for to a Sith as Darth Bane put it).

    Because the Jedi keep suppressing their hormones with their stupid rules, they end up in a constant state of confusion and a mess of repressed desires. Note how quickly Anakin flips out when Padme falls off a ship on Geonosis. If that happened to a Sith's boyfriend/girlfriend, they would be like "I had tons of lovers already, not a big deal".
     
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  24. HEDGESMFG

    HEDGESMFG Jedi Master star 4

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    Palpatine definitely spoke to Ben through the Vader helmet, and I'm still betting that Compass that Luke had. Palpatine influenced and turned Ben from afar using Snoke's voice, and that was the darkness Luke sensed in the hut that made him overreact. This is what I predicted, and now they've virtually confirmed it. I am very, very happy with this.

    Also, Snoke is a puppet, be it a clone, apprentice, or even just a husk. Doesn't matter. This is what I have speculated ever since April when Palpatine's return was confirmed.
     
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  25. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Jedi Master star 4

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    Something bittersweet:

    What if Snoke IS Plagueis... all that remained from him a shell, after Palpatine attempted to kill him he kept the body. Or Plagueis bodyhopped into Palpatine but kept his old body around as a tool.

     
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