Lit The Essential Atlas and Galactic Cartography: Official Discussion

That's cool!!! Great to see authors consulting the Atlas!!!

Anyway, no new worlds in the three separate Planets of the Galaxy-volumes which are not in the Planets Collection...

 

Excellent -- thanks Eddie!

Behold the magic of crowdsourcing: The list of editions to check has already shrunk dramatically. Thanks for all your help so far! Here's what remains to be checked (and it's most likely better than this, as I doubt the Classic Adventures anthologies updated anything except stats):

Classic Adventures 1
Classic Adventures 2
Classic Adventures 3
Classic Adventures 5
GG2: Yavin and Bespin, 2nd edition
GG3: The Empire Strikes Back, 2nd edition
Imperial Sourcebook, 1st edition
Movie Trilogy Sourcebook
Star Wars Sourcebook, 2nd edition

 

HOLY EU LOVE... CW Secret Missions #2 features surprise surprise:

a new Kwa/Kwi Startemple in the Unknown Regions somewhere between Chiss Space and the Known Galaxy. in a sector that has a weird Black Hole emitting radiation that renders all Hyperspace travel impossible in the whole sector (looks like they are IN the Celestial made barrier there and see one of the reasons why it is a barrier)

but back to the Star Temple that is on a moon Pirates stranded in the sector call Plunder Moon.


Holy EU love.. Rhyder Windham is better than ever love it.. more as I read more...



PS: just figured... Kwi/Kwa thus once extended INTO the Unknown Regions and not just towards Gree Space as we previously knew. more ancient superpower stuff is always cool

 

I will look through the WEG titles still remaining on Saturday-morning to see if anything new is added...

 

I compared the two SWSBs side-by-side, the content appears to be more or less the same. All of the new content from The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook appears to have been reprinted in the second editions of the three movie GGs, I didn't come across anything I didn't recognize. I had read the second edition of GG3 a couple of weeks ago, and I don't recall coming across any new planets. I just scanned through the adventure at the end of it and there's nothing new there either.

 

Sweet. Gree and Kwa never get enough love.

I like the black hole setting, too... almost as if they built a black hole corridor a la the Maw to section off the whole western frontier?

 

yubyub

in the Chiss topic I also posted already a few more bits. among them that sullusta professors of xenoarcheology say after studying SEVERAL Star Temples across the galaxy that they date back to over 100000 years ago. AND after Quinlan discovered the Dathomir temple, there were more incidents.

these sullustans (9 years ago from the book's perspective) studied another Star Temple at Ova.. when activating it, a Kwa security system kicked in and automatically another star temple, place unknown, fired an Infinity Wave at Ova to prevent the Kwa tech abuse. luckily the sullustans were on their way back from coruscant to Ova as the wave destroyed Ova completely and the Sullustans ended up in the blackhole interdicted sector in the UR through a hyperspace accident.

the book also describes the pyrami and startemple in more detail and heroes use it to escape the black hole. after fighting wuffa worm defenders.. from inside their womb

 

ahem in the light of all Kwa Star Temple appearances... is this a continuity error?

1) Quinlan encounters Startemple on Dathomir

2) Someone evil fires Infinity wafe at Coruscant

3) Quinlan returns it in on itself destroying the "thing" that fired it

4) what fired it? the Star Temple or a station someplace not on dathomir connected to that Star Temple?, because otherwise Dathomir would be gone and hyperspace travel in its sector nonexistant!

and since the Kwa built the Infinity tech based on Celestial principles (thx Atlas!) might the Celestials have used THEM to create the Hyperspace barrier? after all it is said that hyperspace in the sector where the wave hits and destroys a world is no longer possible. sounds reasonable combined with the TCW books info

thoughts?

 

that's the impression I got, yub


done with Secret Missions #2 now. Awesome is, in the end of the book, Rhyder Windham specifically thx the Atlas, Jason Fry and all who made it possible since he drew heavily on it as ressource for hyperlanes etc.




ps: plotwise, the end reveals the Sith plot:

20 years ago the Sith trapped/cursed the pirates themselves making sure they strand in the hyperspaceless sector with the black hole

9 years ago Palpatine made sure the Kwa tech studying profs strand there as well

NOW he made sure a Jedi (Nuru) strands there and that he will be lead by the pirates towards the Star Temple in order to return with them all home as only a Jedi could control the tech

and since the Sith made sure through Dooku that the Separatists attack a Chiss space station, ensuring that the JEdi saves the Aristocra taking her along the ride through the black hole sector trapped there, in the end he saves her and while the Chiss do not ally with anyone but rather take their station back with over 60 chiss assault cruisers, the aristocra promises nothing but the ascendancy now has a good image of the republic as potential future allies.

thus this was the first contact attempt with the chiss and a second one will follow Palpatine muses. they just wanted to make sure to have them friendly to the republic who saved one of their own in a faked threat situation.

oh by the way, Nuru Kungurama is a Jedi misreading of the chiss data cylinder when they found the infant in an escape pod. his actual chiss name is: Kung'urama'nuruodo of the second ruling family.

 

buy it and love it. This and the Decide your Destiny books are among the best infoladden young reader books recently.

 

A new easter egg for Jason, seems the train station in Lightsaber Lost has some location info in the background, on one of the terminals. I assume they're not station names, since the list includes Alderaan, possibly interstellar destinations if the train goes to spaceports.

The names, from top to bottom, are "Burbank", "Glendale", "Arabia" and "Alderaan". Make of that what you will.

 

nice catch.. but I'd not have that be planets. maybe districts on Coruscant. alderaan might be an alderaanian district/colony. as for the other three... lol

 

Is it correct that there are two Yhuli systems (Jospro Sector and Expansion Region) and two Zznza systems (both Outer Rim, S-14) listed in the Online Appendix?

Also, I want to bring up the question regarding Tangling Veil Nebula (Meridian Sector), Veil Nebula (D'Astan Sector) and The Veil (Farstey Sector) again. Is there any chance to clear that up?

Edit:

While flipping through the pages I stumbled across a Beetle Nebula -- the only thing named this way is a space transport... >>> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Beetle_Nebula

 

My supposition is that The Dead Road is meant to explain how the New Republic could travel to and from Da Soocha, in the heart of Hutt Space, without being spotted by all of the traffic that flows through Hutt hands. It's Dark Empire's storyline equivalent of the Ison Corridor.

 

The Hyperspace Xim articles, IIRC, covered some of Dead Road background (I know for sure that it covered the origin of the "Ash Worlds" where New Alderaan was hiding).

 

The Yhuli system in Jospro is correct. The other one and whichever of the two Zznzas you dislike are strays.

I don't understand the question re the different Veil nebulas. They're all different places, with "Veil" a very common, mildly poetic name for a nebula. If there's a specific objection that two or more of them are meant to be the same place, I'm all ears.

Beetle Nebula transport is named after the place. There are a few of those in the Atlas. Didn't seem like there was any reason it shouldn't be so.

 

If anyone has these WEG books and is up for crowdsourcing, the following books/editions still need to be checked for planets/systems that might have been missed for the Online Appendix. Many thanks to anyone who can help....

Classic Adventures 1
Classic Adventures 2
Classic Adventures 3
Classic Adventures 5
GG2: Yavin and Bespin, 2nd edition
Imperial Sourcebook, 1st edition

 

Sorry, I'm not really awake yet. Re Hutt Space, The Dead Road, etc., the biggest influence was actually the LotR maps and Mordor. Details here.

 

I was always under impression that the Veil nebula from The Clone Wars comic was supposed to be a continuity nod to a previously established location. There doesn't seem to be any reason to distinguish between "The Veil Nebula" and "The Veil Nebula" anyway: Planet of Twilight mentions it as "fringes of the Spangled Veil Nebula" (note how "the" is not even capitalized!) and The Clone Wars: Hero of Confederacy calls it "THE VEIL NEBULA" (all caps).


Also, there are a couple of new planets in the Clone Wars UK comics: Maarka from The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.6 and Hakara from The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.9.

 

I don't see a reason the two Veil Nebulas should be the same, and the established geography argues to the contrary -- Valahari is noted as near Serenno, and the Spangled Veil is near Antemeridian Sector, and those two places aren't close.

Maarka and Hakara will be in an upcoming appendix update.