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Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by A Chorus of Disapproval , Dec 15, 2015.

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  1. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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    Satipo

    Jason has been discussing this possibility for quite some time considering that those characters are our awakenings. So in the light of plural TLJ title, I could actually see them being the last Jedi, like Luke saying something "you are the last Jedi". He may be the last from Snoke's POV but he may see the kids as the last, like your Dark Crystal analogy that really works.
     
  2. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    One of the reasons I do not buy the idea that Snoke established a bond with Ben in Utero is because if he could do that across vast distances...then Kylo would not have been searching for the Map to SKywalker, or needed Hux to tell him where the Resistance base was or been unaware of Rey's location and power. The ability to find a life and manipulate it at that range would suggest he could find anyone he wanted...yet Luke and Leia both evade him and the only thing he can tell about Rey is that someone awakened.
     
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  3. Siphonophore

    Siphonophore Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Here's a pretty good talk by Alan Watts about Carl Jung.
     
  4. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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  5. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    Kylo is not a Jedi and never will be. So you mean the Jedi die out and they create a new group? The grey force users like Bendu or something like that?
     
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  6. Satipo

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    RJ just confirmed it to mean the final Jedi. That has a slightly different connotation to me regardless of who those final Jedi are. It implies there are no more after them.
     
  7. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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    nightangel NTIP discusses that in depth but I wouldn't do them justice if I tried to recap their discussion. No mention of Grey anything but possibility of becoming something other than Jedi. They talked about that in several podcasts including the latest one. From around 2 hrs 30 min mark, question about Rey's parentage and Snoke. It's a speculation, where they think the story is going, not spoilers so don't panic since you won't like what you'll hear:

    http://makingstarwars.net/2017/03/episode-172-makingstarwars-nets-now-podcasting/
     
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  8. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    sounds not good. [face_plain]
     
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  9. afrojedi

    afrojedi Jedi Master star 4

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    But dang! They just returned! Now they are going away again?[face_plain]
     
  10. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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    That perfectly fits with MSW and Satipo speculation that we may see new type of the Force User or what Snoke calls 'the NEW Jedi' (they may not be the Jedi but Snoke calls them so cause there's no name for that yet).
     
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  11. sls062286

    sls062286 Jedi Master star 4

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    He was messing with the guy. Using different words to say the same thing. People really need to stop reading into every little thing someone involved with the movies says.
     
  12. Jedi Jessy

    Jedi Jessy Force Ghost star 5

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    He said it???? I thought this was just a theory
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  13. EHT

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    It could be the effective equivalent to how Kylo Ren and Snoke are not Sith.

    Edit: Could someone please link to where Rian Johnson said this?
     
  14. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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  15. jdTde33

    jdTde33 Jedi Knight star 2

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  16. EHT

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    Thanks guys... I checked his Twitter page and missed that somehow.
     
  17. sls062286

    sls062286 Jedi Master star 4

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    Nevermind
     
  18. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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  19. BlurryUFOs

    BlurryUFOs Jedi Knight star 3

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    ooh I hate that! haha! no one else hates that? I want my new Jedi, snoke promised me some new Jedi
    and what's with this 'the light and the dark needs to come to an understanding' BS? thats how the Empire came back, because the new republic didn't do what it needed to do and fight evil. the eradication of the sith makes sense because there were only 2 and they died. no more jedi means luke does not pass on his teachings and what was the point of going through all that trouble to find the first jedi temple?
    I think jedi have a very important role in the galaxy
     
  20. Frank_TJ_Mackey

    Frank_TJ_Mackey Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  21. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    Yes.

    Snoke promised new Jedi. I think this is what we'd be seeing. Like has learned what the Jedi need to do to move beyond what they became - and I think it is going to be by absorbing the shadow and balancing the light and the dark. Maybe they'll go back to George's idea and be called The Jedi Bendu moving forward, or some other cool name.

    I think this is exactly the kind of progression the saga needs.
     
  22. EHT

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    Yes, it was languages besides English that brought the whole singular vs plural issue into consideration. You can't tell by the word in English which one it means, but the title in other languages implied that it was plural. So that doesn't change, because the word Jedi is still there. It just makes it sound much more "final", because someone could be the last of something until there are more of them again. Final could mean that, but the implication is pretty strong that there won't be more of that thing after that point. Although, like I said earlier, it could almost be the equivalent to how Kylo and Snoke are not Sith. As in, the "new Jedi" are not called Jedi anymore.
     
  23. Master Hamahiga

    Master Hamahiga Jedi Master star 2

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    Sighs and shakes his head, It doesn't sound like anything yet. I mean how can a reasonable non-pessimistic person draw such a conclusion base on a few words posted on social media?

    I mean come on people, we really know next to nothing about this movie at this point.

    Remember, Star Wars is bigger than Luke Skywalker, it's not the other way around.


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  24. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    I hate it too. [face_sick]
     
  25. sls062286

    sls062286 Jedi Master star 4

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    Another way to interpret the title: The First Order wants to make Luke and Rey the last Jedi.
     
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