Lit The Following Takes Place Between 35:3:8 and 39:3:7 of the GCW. Events Occur in Real Time.

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The2ndQuest , Mar 3, 2013.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000

    This thread will be taking a hosted discussion look at the stories of the Galactic Civil War, starting with events immediately after The Battle of Yavin (as TalconCard yells at me: "You fool!").

    We'll be approaching events in real time, more or less (given the nebulous overlapping nature of material in this era). Some things will simply be spaced out for purposes of discussion pace, but we'll ultimately be tackling the broader strokes of every month in-universe within a month in the real world.

    Now, it's also hard to lock down consensus on this era when it comes to the chronological order of some sources, but I've tried to put together a list from several sources ("You fool!"). However, I've admittedly done so in a less than ideal timespan, so I wouldn't call this absolutely comprehensive; but I've done what I can. I'm sure I'll end up skipping some video game levels or something, but not intentionally.

    If you think I've skipped something as we proceed, feel free to let me know!

    Will we make it to ROTJ? Let's find out!

    There are some conceits that will go with this thread:

    -We'll be operating on a 12 month calendar, under the notion that Year 35 will correspond exactly to the 2013 calendar (otherwise this becomes more of a math exercise than is necessary for a discussion thread), 36 to 2014, etc.

    -Many sources won't have an exact day-to-day correlation: in other words, while we might spend a single day discussing a particular source, that story might span several. As I stated earlier, though, things will balance out to be correct in the broader month-based strokes.

    Another element to this thread to look forward to: we'll be running an art challenge in the Fan Art Forum for pieces depicting events corresponding to where we are in the timeline of this discussion.

    You can find the thread with the rules here.

    It'll be a nice way to collaborate between two forums that do not normally have direct crossover. Thanks to Corellian_Outrider for helping organize the Fan Art end of things.

    So, Quest, if the Battle of Yavin happens on "March 8th", why are you posting this thread now? Simple, as a little light warm up to our actual "after film" events discussion, I figured it would be fun to post this on 3:3, the day ANH begins in-universe.

    Why not start outright with day 1 of ANH? Well, for one, it helps us skip the various adaptation materials of events we all know by heart a thousand times over, as well as sidestep the continuity tangle that precedes the film regarding the acquisition of the Death Star plans ("You fool!").

    So, to set the stage for context: approx. 2 years ago ("Spring of 2011" to us) the Corellian Treaty was signed by Mon Mothma, Bail Organa and Bel Iblis (a Battlestar Galactica crossover happened in here somewhere too;)), uniting the resistance forces of Chandrilla, Alderaan and Corellia in an open declaration of rebellion, forming the Rebel Alliance (formally "The Alliance to Restore the Republic").

    The Galactic Civil War had begun.

    In the ensuing years, many events would transpire leading to the events of "today":

    -The Rebels would establish their first base on Dantooine.
    -The smuggler Han Solo would acquire a ship named the Millennium Falcon in a sabacc game from gambler Lando Calrissian.
    -Emperor Palpatine would facilitate the initial invasions of Wild Space by the Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium.
    -Darth Vader would clone his former secret apprentice, Galen Marek, on Kamino.
    -Suspecting detection, the Alliance would abandon it's Dantooine Base and relocate to the Sith temple ruins on the jungle moon of Yavin IV.
    -Grand Moff Trachta and several conspirators would attempt a failed coup on Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader.
    -Jabba the Hutt assumed control of the Desilijic Clan.
    -A zombie outbreak occurs on the prison barge ship Purge and the Imperial Star Destroyer Vector.
    -The Battle of Turkana takes place.
    -The MC Independence would launch fighter missions to take out the ISD Invincible.
    -A Mon Calamari named Ackbar is rescued from slavery under Grand Moff Tarkin by the Rebels.
    -The Death Star would become operational, test firing it's primary weapon on the construction prison of Despayre, destroying the planet.
    -Technical readouts of the Death Star would be acquired through the various missions of Operation Skyhook.

    And that brings us to a brief capsule look at "today":


    After intercepting the transmissions of the Death Star plans over Toprawa, Princess Leia, aboard the Tantive IV, is en route to Tatooine to retrieve the exiled Jedi Master, General Obi-Wan Kenobi, when they are attacked by the Imperial Star Destroyer that has been pursuing them since Toprawa: Darth Vader's Devastator.

    Princess Leia hides the plans inside an Artoo unit. The droid and his protocol companion stow away on an escape pod and are jettisoned to the surface of Tatooine to keep the plans out of Imperial hands...

    So, yeah, you know the rest of what happens in those two paragraphs. Elsewhere in the EU we have a lot of concurrent storylines going on: Rookie One's adventure begins on this day (or close to it) on Tatooine. Many of the stories from Tales From the Mos Eisley Cantina intersect with this slice of time as well (feel free to dissect that further if you want).

    Now, again, this is just a brief overview of the day as part of this prelude (info mainly skimmed from Wookieepedia, I'll cite other sources I use as we progress). For the actual post-Yavin content, we'll be commenting/reviewing things source by source. Look for that to start Saturday.
  2. cdgodin

    cdgodin Jedi Master star 4

    Oct 9, 2009
    This sounds like a great, massive undertaking done with loads of research. It has my seal of approval :D=D=
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  3. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

    Jul 8, 1999
    One, awesome. Two, how long ago did you come up with this and then have to sit on it until March 3rd?
  4. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000
    Well, there are greater experts on the era than I, but I think it makes for a unique framework for a discussion of the era (and allows a lot of people to sort of examine the timey-wimey continuity of the era at the same time).

    It'll also give me an excuse to final read the Mission and RF books that have been sitting on my shelf for so long, as well as, eventually, finish the Marvel series that I only got a couple trades into many years back. The info I've skimmed from the various sources out there about them have actually made me want to read them finally, ha.

    Either that or we can all laugh at my crazy undertaking.

    EDIT- Came up with the idea last summer. Remembered a few weeks ago. Plenty of time ;).

    I've had a lot of the groundwork on hand already though, mostly from sources that have really done all the heavy lifting: Wookieepedia, the SW EU timeline at Timeline Universe, Timeline Gold, as well as some older timeline files I had sitting around that TalonCard, NightOwl and Maverick879 did about 9 years ago.

    My job was mainly to resolve those together with my own choices within the framework structure needed for a regularly updated discussion thread. Though no doubt the actual experience of analysis, discussion and reading specific sources will shed light on necessary alterations for future reference.

    EDIT 2- Oh, I almost forgot, since the question will no doubt come up: Obviously the Brian Wood series is ongoing so it will be filling in new events long after we've surpassed them chronologically, so I intend to cover the first arc, In the Shadow of Yavin, when we get to 2 months ABY (since that arc will likely have been finished by time we get there) but after that we'll move on beyond it.
  5. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

    Oct 29, 2005
    What about the events of X-Wing? 2-11 and 2-12 should be happening the same day as the capture of the Tantive IV - and Tour 3 should be parallel to ANH.
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000
    There's a lot running parallel to ANH. Not going to include everything in the prelude overviews, just (hopefully) everything ABY. But you're right, I forgot to mention those (probably mentally checked off X-Wing after the Turkana, Skyhook and Invincible mentions).
  7. Plaristes

    Plaristes Jedi Master star 3

    Jul 2, 2007
    I love the idea for this thread. :D
    Don't forget another important event that happened today: before the Devastator tracked down the Tantive IV, it was first tricked into tracking the Tantive V. Abso Bar Binks can really knock around a lot of stormtroopers. :p
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000
    The Manga material is Infinities, though, isn't it? I don't think that could be cleanly resolved with the actual means in which the Devastator was able to track the Tantive IV: U-3PO was reprogrammed by the Empire as a spy and inserted aboard the Tantive IV on Ralltiir, later sending the signal for the Devastator to track it to Tatooine.

    If the Imperials had the tracker signal to follow, they wouldn't have fallen for the Tantive V decoy which would have been lacking said signal (and the Rebels were clearly unaware of U-3PO's spy status until the Devastator got the drop on them).
  9. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

    Oct 29, 2005
    It's interesting that the Farlander Papers has the Immortal as the ISD that captures her (before it was established otherwise, I'm guessing). Could the Immortal then be the ISD that Rookie One cripples over Tatooine?
  10. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

    May 31, 2005
    Eh, it's pretty doubtful that Immortal got crippled in Rebel Assault, seeing that she shows up in nearly every other mission in X-Wing's third Tour of Duty. :p
  11. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

    Nov 28, 2000
    I, uh, volunteer to write in-universe fake newsnet stories about each day's events under the Coruscant Daily Newsfeed channel (therefore, I am only interested in high society events).

    I don't know what this has to do with your project at all or if it'll even contribute, but the date system made me think of NewsNets so why not :p
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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000
    Feel free to counter my propaganda with your own ;)
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  13. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

    Oct 29, 2005
    Ah, good point.

    To be honest, it's always bothered me that two X-Wings managed to take out an ISD (possibly destroying it, considering the damage the bridge takes) in Rebel Assault. I accept victories like that from Farlander or Wedge (and I don't even think any of their stories or game missions were ever that weighted against the rebels), not from a shlub Rookie One who had barely even seen combat.

    There's also the presence of Biggs. The movie makes it look like Biggs is going to join the Rebel Alliance, where every other source already has him a member - was he just telling Luke that to gauge his feelings about the Alliance? And how was Biggs in the area at the time - was he there to try and locate the plans himself when the news about Leia came in?
  14. Lazy Storm Trooper

    Lazy Storm Trooper Jedi Master star 4

    Sep 18, 2012
    Did you hear about that crazy jedi dude on the Death Star. Luckily for me I 99 miles away on the other side. Silly rebel scum. If they want a fight they could just come come to me. Either getting redeployed now to a far away star system. Muunilinst here I come.
  15. Plaristes

    Plaristes Jedi Master star 3

    Jul 2, 2007
    Leland has said that the continuity is "fuzzy," which sounds like S-canon to me. You're right that there's a tension here, but a clever writer could find a way to reconcile them if he wanted to. In any case, my post was mainly a joke. If you're looking for a more serious post, don't forget the extra adventures Artoo and Threepio experienced during ANH as shown in Star Comics' Droids #6-8. :p
  16. mnjedi

    mnjedi Force Ghost star 5

    Nov 4, 2012
    Heard about some shinanigans going on in the rim today, a shame that Bail Organa of Aalderaans daughter was involved with the terrorists. I'm sure our beloved Lord Vader will judge wisely and with a gentle hand, without doing anything too drastic, like say dissolving the senate or something.
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  17. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Master star 4

    Dec 2, 2009
    I personally prefer the idea that Biggs is testing the waters on Tatooine. Particularly with Luke, but also to some extent with Fixer and co.
  18. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Wacky Wednesday Host star 10 VIP - Game Host

    Sep 2, 2012
    Didn't the Rebellion comics have him not yet have joined the Rebellion when he's talking to Luke? With his "plan to jump ship" being a lie that became the truth?

    That's what I recall from the Other Sons of Tatooine omnibus.
  19. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000
    Yeah, the "jump ship" thing was a cover story.

    It's probably the Conquest or Thunderflare (I think that was the second ISD), post-Falcon escape from Tatooine.

    Moving on with the overview prelude:


    Last night, Artoo was jacked by Jawas, meeting up with Threepio in the hold of their sandcrawler. This morning, the detachment of Stormtroopers from the Devastator deploy in the desert and locate the escape pod and evidence of droids being aboard.

    Meanwhile, the sandcrawler arrives at the Lars moisture farm, ultimately selling the two droids to the Lars. The Lars' nephew, Luke Skywalker, stumbles across a hidden message for help inside Artoo from Princess Leia while cleaning the droid.

    While the Lars have dinner (and Luke pauses to take in the binary sunset), Artoo flees into the desert once more, intent on finding Obi-Wan Kenobi. Upon discovery of the droid's absence, Luke plans to go out the following morning in pursuit.

    Another source I should have mentioned yesterday as concurrent to these events would be the various subplots taking place aboard the Death Star in the Death Star novel. Also aboard the station is the investigation of trooper TK-622 into a suspected saboteur in Empire #13: What Sin Loyalty? TK-622 is likely either just starting his investigation now or is just arriving aboard the Death Star from Ralltiir.
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  20. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

    Oct 29, 2005
    Rebel Dawn, according to my notes, indicated Han arrived on Tatooine this day.

    And we forgot the biggest news for the 3rd - that the Imperial Senate was suspended "for the duration of the emergency"...
  21. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000
    I found it difficult to determine for sure if that happened today or tomorrow (or it happened today and it took a day for word to reach the Death Star/Horuz system). However, I came across 3:5 more often so I was going to go with that,

    But, if it happened today, it happened late tonight (which, I guess would really be "now" given when i'm posting these ;) ).

    If it is happening now, another key point about the senate dissolution mentioned on Wookieepedia is that that also results in the official disbandment of the Trade Federation (even though it had technically been dissolved and Imperialized since the conclusion of the Clone Wars)
  22. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

    Nov 12, 2012
    Uber-win for 24 reference! Is there any way to sneak Jack Bauer into also one of the people who stole the Death Star plans? There's like 50 of 'em already.
  23. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 27, 2000
    They already have. His name is Kyle Katarn.
  24. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

    Oct 29, 2005
    Checking SWAJ3, you're right - it states it is the 5th. Need to check the original novelization, which apparently was my source for being the same day as the capture of the Tantive IV...
  25. Mazzic

    Mazzic Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Nov 6, 2000
    This is just brilliant.