The Imperial Knights thread *SPOILERS*

Except with Lord Darth Vader of whom is the heir of Emperor Palpatine. Barring belief that the midiclorians were manipulated, it was he and not the Emperor's grand niece that the Imperial throne was going to be bequeathed to. Barring the Emperor's failing mortality, Luke Skywalker would also have received the throne if he had accepted the Emperor's service.

 

Just a few thoughts on Grand Admiral Veed...

I skimmed over some of the previous pages, so forgive me if I am repeating something that was already said. Any argument that Veed, in his own way, is more noble than Fel or would make a better Emperor is ridiculous.

Lets not forget that it was Grand Admiral Veed who embranced working with the Sith- known villians with 20-plus millenia of evil history- instead of standing alongside the GA.

By all appearances, the Empire and the Galactic Alliance maintained cordial relations for nearly a century. Not only that, but it appears that there was a peaceful transition of the Remnant back into a empire, all while keeping the peace with the GA.

Then Veed, Calixte, and Co decide to kriff things up and join the Sith.

The Sith.

How nayone could trust the Sith is beyond me. And, I imagine that militant ole' Veed was just itching to throw his Starfleet into battle over some grandeous idea of returning the Empire to total power.

The guy should be shot for stupidity and spaced out the airlock.

A galaxy with two major powers (GA and Empire) was undoubtedly the best, due to the fact that it presented a choice for worlds on which style of governace best suited them.

Anyways, these are just my thoughts.

--Adm. Nick

 

Actually, Veed knew exactly what he was doing. He may not have expected to lose the throne to Darth Krayt but he doesn't intend to allow it fall into the hands of the Sith for long.

And again....he WON.

The galaxy is under the command of the Galactic Empire. The Rebellion is crushed.

He succeeded where Thrawn couldn't.

 

By using the Sith, which turned on him.

Plus- the GA remains, which added to Fel's loyalists will undoubtedly be a thorn in the Sith/Imperial Empire...

--Adm. Nick

 

When the Empire was ruled by Bane's Sith, it's not unreasonable to assume they had a very different idea of inheritance. The student becomes the master; the Sith apprentice is groomed his entire life to be the Dark Lord of the Sith. Fel's Empire seems to work more traditionally.

The Empire won. Veed helped the Empire win. When Veed's little coup attempt was sprung, he lost. Big time. He made a really silly mistake, one it doesn't appear Fel made after all, and that was to trust the Sith. I believe Veed may have had his reasons, but until now all I can say is that he wants the throne. (I'm hoping to see more of Veed as an Imperial under Fel, as a Moff, as a Grand Admiral, and as a conspirator in issue #8.) I'm a little more interested, however, in Grand Moff Calixte's motivations.

 

Actually, Palpatine declared himself Emperor, and the senate didn't argue. Then later he dissolved the senate. Vader would have succeeded Palpatine regardless of what anyone else thought and, if Palpatine did his job training a good Sith, Vader wouldn't take any lip about it.

Not a good guy or a winner in life, perhaps. How well he performed in fleet battles remains to be seen, though we can assume he performed excellently. The one thing we know about his personality is he's a bit overconfidant; in Legacy #1, he makes threats to his fellow Moffs before the coup is even over, which no doubt results in a lot of egg all over his face the next time he has to meet Moff Geist.

 

Surely you don't actually believe II.

 

Surely Dangor's pronouncement can't possibly be taken at face value. If anything, he of all people would have reconvened the Senate after the recapture of Coruscant after Thrawn's assassination if he meant any of what he said nearly a decade earlier, which of course he didn't.

Suspending the Senate "for the duration of the emergency" (i.e. forever) flies right in the face of Palpatine's view of the Rebellion. Palpatine cared nothing for the "insignificant band". It was a tool that he exploited, first to wipe away the Senate, then to turn Skywalker.

Tarkin gives the best picture of the reality of the issue. In the novelization, he finds a perverse amusement at "the duration of the emergency" comment, and you know as well as I from the actual movie the Senate has been done away with permanently.

 

Hence Jello's smiley-tongue faces.

 

I missed the " "

 

Yes.

It doesn't matter if Palpatine never took the law seriously. It's the law.

 

I agree with you. I'll go back to using the Roan Fel double when Krayt came to town. Roan Fel knows that he screwed up somewhere along the line and he desires to make it right. Standing up and facing the Sith at that point in time seems like the noble and courageous thing to do, but it is likely that the end scenario would have been the same - the man sitting in the throne would be cut down and Krayt would replace him. Roan knows that he alone is able to command enough loyalty to be able to overthrow the Sith rule of the Empire. At this point, we have to believe that Roan Fel regaining control of Bastion will be instrumental in defeating Darth Krayt.

Marasiah Fel would likely have chosen to stay on the throne and confront the Sith. She knows that her IK Master Elke Vetter got absolutely crushed by Darth Talon but she wants to go back and try to FIGHT HER! That is foolish and will not accomplish anything. At best she gives her life away. At worst she gives Bastion away. A missionary has to instruct her in the proper strategic move. Going forward, she rushes out and almost dies saving the life of Cade just to "Make things right". Luckily for her Cade probably happens to be a person who probably will be instrumental in the fall of the Sith. She cannot possibly know this, however. She just got done hearing him call Honor, Duty, and all that good stuff a bunch of BS. "Making things right" isn't saving one space pirate - It is a more long term goal of usurping the Sith usurpers. Marasiah has not really displayed the understanding of the real world that the Emperor of the galaxy needs to keep things in order.

Carnage

 

Yes, and there's a simple fact. The Moffs on the council are utterly UN-IDEALISTIC. We know that Morlish Veed and his lover are complete bastarves but it seems the head of the Imperial Mission isn't much better himself for Machiavellian scheming. I'd wager the rest of the council is just as big a collection of scum....if less treasonous than Veed and his consort.

They'd eat Marasiah alive.

 

What they seem to be are cowards. Geist and Russ, at least, don't seem happy about the coup, or all that enthusiastic about serving the Sith, but they certainly aren't about to stand up to Krayt. "Un-idealistic" is actually a really great way of describing them: they're politicians and beaurocrats, and they're sure as hell not gonna lost their power by sticking their necks out if it means they might get a lightsaber through it.

 

I am not accusing her of being stupid, she certainly has some wits about her, but I think she does not have the makings of a great war time leader. She would need to be more "Spur of the moment" sensible. Her traits are not all bad for leadership though.... Conversely, I think she would be a better peace time leader than Roan Fel. In times of peace the populace is more important than the troops, compassion and understanding can go a long way towards popularity, and decisions are allowed a bit more time to make. A high approval rating would make it hard for the Moffs to chew her up and replace her. In peace time I could see Roan sitting on his throne, fidgeting, wondering what other Star Systems he could bring the sophistication of the Empire to. He is colder and realistic....probably less likely to really be accepted by the populace.

I also do not think she is THAT young. I would guess she is at least in her late twenties. That isn't exactly old and wise but being in the middle of a raging war for the past 8 years should have been enough to shake her of her idealistic views. Some people grow out of them and some don't. It's quite possible she will not.

Carnage

 

RE Sia

One thing Cade spotted about Sia is that the various factions that might have to unite to defat the Sith are more likley to unite with someone like Sia than with himself. Can Roan Fel pull it off? Could Sia, because she is NOT the emperor, because she IS perceived to be idealistic (and perhaps charimatic) be more likely to pull together such an alliance than a tainted Roan fel or a scruffy space pirate (even if he IS named Skywalker)?

fFnally -- is Roan Fel out to recover the throne for himself OR for the rightful dynasty? Would he be willing to step aside as Emperor in favor of his daughter iF, by doing so, he could defeat Krayt and the Sith. i'm not proposing that is what WILL happen -- just wondering if it MIGHT.

You know -- stirring the pot a little.<g>

-- John

 

Good points Jon. I suppose the real question is whether its more interesting if he would...or wouldn't.

:-D

I also like how you refer to Roan as tainted.

 

Roan Fel is forever tainted because of his association with the Sith. He is largely responsible for causing the Imperial-Sith War, bringing the Sith into power and causing the Imperial Civil War. So it would be a wise move for him to make his daughter the public face of his Imperial faction when dealing with non-Imperials. It would certainly be easier for them to deal with Marasiah.